What Whisky/Whiskey are we drinking this month?

limnam · 24-10-2020 01:20PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Anyone know where that whiskey is from? I don’t know much about them but I’m presuming teeling wasn’t around 29 years ago

Father and sons worked at cooley and bought a load of it up during the sale to jim beam afaik

Cazale · 24-10-2020 01:29PM

They heavily hinted at Bushmills on the tasting but wouldn't say for definite. The 24, 28 and 29 is from the same stock.

the beer revolu · 24-10-2020 01:33PM

Cazale wrote: »

They heavily hinted at Bushmills on the tasting but wouldn't say for definite. The 24, 28 and 29 is from the same stock.

That 26 year old Aldi was Bushmills stock, so, you could be right!

killbillvol2 · 24-10-2020 02:01PM

Cazale wrote: »

They heavily hinted at Bushmills on the tasting but wouldn't say for definite. The 24, 28 and 29 is from the same stock.

I wasn't too impressed with the coyness around the origin. If I was going to pay €500/600 for a bottle of whiskey I'd want to know its history.

lawrencesummers · 24-10-2020 03:25PM

killbillvol2 wrote: »

I wasn't too impressed with the coyness around the origin. If I was going to pay €500/600 for a bottle of whiskey I'd want to know its history.

I agree.
It’s not to much to know the actual origin of something when you are paying so much for it.

the beer revolu · 24-10-2020 05:45PM

killbillvol2 wrote: »

I wasn't too impressed with the coyness around the origin. If I was going to pay €500/600 for a bottle of whiskey I'd want to know its history.

Sometimes, it's not by choice, it's because of NDAs. It can be pretty silly.

I'd like a system like tequila has - a distillery identification number on the bottle. It's, literally a number that can be referenced to a distillery. To anyone who doesn't care or know, it's barely noticeable.

lawrencesummers · 24-10-2020 06:37PM

the beer revolu wrote: »

Sometimes, it's not by choice, it's because of NDAs. It can be pretty silly.

I'd like a system like tequila has - a distillery identification number on the bottle. It's, literally a number that can be referenced to a distillery. To anyone who doesn't care or know, it's barely noticeable.

That’s a new one on me.
Have you some experience of it?
Are the agreements from the distiller or the seller?

dobman88 · 24-10-2020 08:23PM

I was gifted a little Redbreast sample collection a while back and have decided tonight is as good a night as any to try them. They are 3 x 50ml bottles. 1 Lustau, 1 15 year old and 1 12 year old.

I want to taste them in the "best order". Assume I go Lustau, 15 and finish with the 12?

adrian522 · 24-10-2020 08:29PM

I'd go the other way around personally. Start with the 12, then the Lustau and finish with the 15 Year Old.

newbie runner · 24-10-2020 08:44PM

Very enjoyable tasting of Gelstons range last night.The 26 year old was phenomenal

Back to an Ardbeg Uigeadail tonight for me.

mikeecho · 24-10-2020 09:03PM

dobman88 wrote: »

I was gifted a little Redbreast sample collection a while back and have decided tonight is as good a night as any to try them. They are 3 x 50ml bottles. 1 Lustau, 1 15 year old and 1 12 year old.

I want to taste them in the "best order". Assume I go Lustau, 15 and finish with the 12?

I actually think the 12 is nicer than the 15 .. but it's all personal.

Get 3 glasses, and taste all three, compare and contrast them.

dobman88 · 24-10-2020 09:05PM

mikeecho wrote: »

I actually think the 12 is nicer than the 15 .. but it's all personal.

Get 3 glasses, and taste all three, compare and contrast them.

Oh yeah, we are doing all 3. I couldnt decide so let the missus choose. So we are going Lustau, 12, 15 for no particular reason.

mikeecho · 24-10-2020 09:15PM

dobman88 wrote: »

Oh yeah, we are doing all 3. I couldnt decide so let the missus choose. So we are going Lustau, 12, 15 for no particular reason.

Excellent.. taste all 3 at the same time.

You only need 15 or 20ml of each..

Get 6 glasses, and the two of you can do a tasting session.

Have the tasting notes for each to hand, and see how your experience compares to that of the "experts"

dobman88 · 24-10-2020 10:38PM

They went down well. She preferred the 15, Lustau and 12. I preferred the 12, 15 and Lustau. Few drops of Jameson crested to round off the evening now.

EagererBeaver · 24-10-2020 11:29PM

RB 12 CS > Green Spot > RB 12 > RB15

the beer revolu · 25-10-2020 08:55AM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

That’s a new one on me.
Have you some experience of it?
Are the agreements from the distiller or the seller?

We bottled a 17 year old malt a few years ago.
The distillery had us sign an NDA regarding the provenance.

lawrencesummers · 25-10-2020 09:19AM

the beer revolu wrote: »

We bottled a 17 year old malt a few years ago.
The distillery had us sign an NDA regarding the provenance.

Personally I think this is something that is a great risk to the Global appeal of Irish Whiskey.

Not to be picking on any distillery in particular but as they are trading on a geographical name and it’s associated beautiful surroundings if someone visits Glendalough and buys a bottle of whiskey It’s not unreasonable for them to expect it to have been made In Glendalough considering it says Glendalough on the label.

It’s a small bit different when West Cork Bottle their spirit and call it the Pogues whiskey because that is non geographical. Or JJ Corry who have in the marketing blurb about the name being historically a whiskey blender, but IMO it should still be clear.

As with all foodstuffs origin should be on the label. Hopefully that happens legAlly before the global whiskey community rebels against what is essentially a market flooded with misleading marketing centred releases.

Finding out a bottle of proper 3 is actually bushmills isn’t going to bother the chavs who drink it with coke, but when you find out a E600 Bottle of Teelings is Actually Midleton / bushmills And not from their distillery can.

the beer revolu · 25-10-2020 10:02AM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Personally I think this is something that is a great risk to the Global appeal of Irish Whiskey.

Not to be picking on any distillery in particular but as they are trading on a geographical name and it’s associated beautiful surroundings if someone visits Glendalough and buys a bottle of whiskey It’s not unreasonable for them to expect it to have been made In Glendalough considering it says Glendalough on the label.

It’s a small bit different when West Cork Bottle their spirit and call it the Pogues whiskey because that is non geographical. Or JJ Corry who have in the marketing blurb about the name being historically a whiskey blender, but IMO it should still be clear.

As with all foodstuffs origin should be on the label. Hopefully that happens legAlly before the global whiskey community rebels against what is essentially a market flooded with misleading marketing centred releases.

Finding out a bottle of proper 3 is actually bushmills isn’t going to bother the chavs who drink it with coke, but when you find out a E600 Bottle of Teelings is Actually Midleton / bushmills And not from their distillery can.

I agree with all this but the industry, at large, resists transparency.
Not so long ago I was watching Anthony Bordain in Dublin. He went into The Palace Bar where the barman proudly declared that they had over 200 different Irish whiskeys. What he failed to mention is that they all come from 3 distilleries (show was a few years old).

CosmicFool · 25-10-2020 10:05AM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Personally I think this is something that is a great risk to the Global appeal of Irish Whiskey.

Not to be picking on any distillery in particular but as they are trading on a geographical name and it’s associated beautiful surroundings if someone visits Glendalough and buys a bottle of whiskey It’s not unreasonable for them to expect it to have been made In Glendalough considering it says Glendalough on the label.

It’s a small bit different when West Cork Bottle their spirit and call it the Pogues whiskey because that is non geographical. Or JJ Corry who have in the marketing blurb about the name being historically a whiskey blender, but IMO it should still be clear.

As with all foodstuffs origin should be on the label. Hopefully that happens legAlly before the global whiskey community rebels against what is essentially a market flooded with misleading marketing centred releases.

Finding out a bottle of proper 3 is actually bushmills isn’t going to bother the chavs who drink it with coke, but when you find out a E600 Bottle of Teelings is Actually Midleton / bushmills And not from their distillery can.

Completely agree. I think it might come back on them. Also distilleries don't need to put on their labels if caramel colouring was added which is dissapointing. I got a bottle in Germany from a particular distillery and was shocked when I saw on the label that caramel was added.
They have to put it on the label for the German Market. It should be done here too.

lawrencesummers · 25-10-2020 11:12AM

CosmicFool wrote: »

Completely agree. I think it might come back on them. Also distilleries don't need to put on their labels if caramel colouring was added which is dissapointing. I got a bottle in Germany from a particular distillery and was shocked when I saw on the label that caramel was added.
They have to put it on the label for the German Market. It should be done here too.

Was that an Irish distillery?
If so who?

Wailin · 25-10-2020 11:19AM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Was that an Irish distillery?
If so who?

Practically all irish whiskies have colouring aided. Teeling are one of the very few, along with Waterford that don't.

lawrencesummers · 25-10-2020 11:25AM

Wailin wrote: »

Practically all irish whiskies have colouring aided. Teeling are one of the very few, along with Waterford that don't.

Do Dingle?

Wailin · 25-10-2020 11:31AM

Yes.

lawrencesummers · 25-10-2020 12:08PM

Wailin wrote: »

Yes.

How do you know?

Quackster · 25-10-2020 12:51PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

How do you know?

Unless it specifically says on the bottle that colouring hasn't been added, you can take it with a high degree of confidence that it has.

adrian522 · 25-10-2020 12:52PM

EagererBeaver wrote: »

RB 12 CS > Green Spot > RB 12 > RB15

Really don't get the hate for RB15 on this forum. It's a fantastic whiskey and for my money is the best of the ones listed above.

irish_goat · 25-10-2020 12:54PM

Few whiskey reviews have said Dingle doesn't add colour.

https://whiskeyjac.net/2017/10/27/dingle-whiskey-batch-1-recap-batch-2-details/

Batch 4 has no colour according to the Amazon Germany site too.

Mellor · 25-10-2020 02:21PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

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Not to be picking on any distillery in particular but as they are trading on a geographical name and it’s associated beautiful surroundings if someone visits Glendalough and buys a bottle of whiskey It’s not unreasonable for them to expect it to have been made In Glendalough considering it says Glendalough on the label.

It’s a small bit different when West Cork Bottle their spirit and call it the Pogues whiskey because that is non geographical. Or JJ Corry who have in the marketing blurb about the name being historically a whiskey blender, but IMO it should still be clear.

I agree that origin should be clear. But I think it’s a bit silly to assume for of a whiskey named after a place vrs anything else. The name is just a name.

janiejones · 25-10-2020 04:55PM

think people get caught up on the colouring and chill filtered stuff (me too, big time). Bad example for me recently was a reviewer saying ardbeg had passed out lagavulin. The reasoning was lagavulin was only 43% and had colouring. If the flavours changed then fair enough but basing it on that doesn't work for me.

Having said all that this month I'm drinking kilkerran 12 and deanston 12. I like them both, probably the kilkerran slightly more. Very different whiskies. Despite liking them both probably won't buy either again

lawrencesummers · 25-10-2020 06:54PM

Mellor wrote: »

I agree that origin should be clear. But I think it’s a bit silly to assume for of a whiskey named after a place vrs anything else. The name is just a name.

I think you will take a long time to find someone that doesn’t think origin should be clear, but I think it’s a bigger abuse of the lack of rules that a whiskey names itself after a particular area and clearly benefits from pretending to be a product of that location.

Clonakilty does the same and probably a few others like Tipperary. When you buy a bottle of whiskey from Glendalough/ tipperary / clonakilty that doesn’t make it clear it’s from elsewhere the reasonable assumption is that it’s from that place.

What Whisky/Whiskey are we drinking this month?

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