Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

I Am The Law · 24-10-2020 06:31PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

So if things go well, two weeks from today we could be back down around 200 cases a day

4 weeks...100...Can we reopen at level 3- then? back to restaurants and non-wet pubs please. thanks

Non-wet pubs, ffs what a nation of bullsh1ters.

Non solum non ambulabit · 24-10-2020 06:39PM

Curious_Case wrote: »

How can it be ascertained at this early stage that Covid-19 is seasonal ?

Hayfever is seasonal

We call the flu seasonal too but it's really our behaviours and habits that are seasonal

In my opinion, seasonality, in the case of a virus, suggests susceptibility to temperature, humidity and/or amount of sunlight

Covid is a respiratory disease.

Respiratory diseases are seasonal due to how we live in winter.

If you are more likely to catch it in doors then it's seasonal.

We have just come through a summer where the disease practically disappeared across Europe despite rigorous testing.

Dampsquid · 24-10-2020 06:40PM

hmmm wrote: »

There's two issues. The Regeneron cocktail he got is still in trials. Those trials have to finish.

It's difficult to manufacture (at the moment). They're hoping to have a few hundred thousand doses by the end of the year, but there are 200,000 cases a day in Europe alone at the moment.

But hopefully it's going to part of the answer next year when manufacturing is scaled up.

How can you possibly say with certainty that the medicine that trump had was the cure. One case does not prove anything. Thinking like this brings us back to the stone age and superstition.

Ficheall · 24-10-2020 06:41PM

Deleted User wrote: »

If numbers continue to drop like this over the next few days, level 5 should be called off next week.

Are you suggesting level 3 works?

24-10-2020 06:42PM

Jimson wrote: »

I have and don't believe everything you read on one sample of information.

Why were stable at 50 a day until the schools reopened.
Why is that?

We weren’t. In the month before schools opened cases increased 3 fold. In the month after schools opened cases increased 3 fold, and in the past 4 weeks, cases increased 3 fold

Loafing Oaf · 24-10-2020 06:43PM

Goldrickssan wrote: »

Some people recover extremely quick, some people don't and most have no symptoms at all. Trump having a quick turn around isn't actually surprising looking at the statistics.

Yeah most people in decent health, even at Trump's age, would not get seriously ill.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 24-10-2020 06:47PM

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Positive trend continues today. We're certainly doing a lot better than our closest neighbours.

Averages overall:

ROI: 1 death per every 30 confirmed cases.

NI: 1 death per every 50 confirmed cases.

Non solum non ambulabit · 24-10-2020 06:50PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Averages overall:

ROI: 1 death per every 30 confirmed cases.

NI: 1 death per every 50 confirmed cases.

We aren't counting deaths the same. We aren't testing the same.

Happydays2020 · 24-10-2020 06:52PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Yeah most people in decent health, even at Trump's age, would not get seriously ill.

And he gets lots of vitamin D on the golf course

hmmm · 24-10-2020 06:55PM

Dampsquid wrote: »

How can you possibly say with certainty that the medicine that trump had was the cure. One case does not prove anything. Thinking like this brings us back to the stone age and superstition.

That's why the trials have to finish.

GeorgeBailey · 24-10-2020 06:57PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Not a chance. They need to get things as low as they can. I don’t want it to go beyond the 6 weeks but earlier without low numbers will mean another lockdown for Christmas

twas sarcasm.

boardise · 24-10-2020 07:02PM

branie2 wrote: »

RIP, the four people who died

An almighty enlarged R...I...P to all who succumb to C19 between now and 31/12/2020 would save the chore of daily posting for this year .

Actually I go further. I say RIP to all who have departed this life since the dawn of time and all who will expire from now to the end of time. That's me done .

And yes, I know that includes all the tyrants, murderers and rapists etc. -but hey I'm a big hearted guy -there's room for all at the inn of my magnanimity.

Yeah, it's kinda spooky that I'm wishing RIP to myself too- but I suppose that would be a default position anyway.

Widdensushi · 24-10-2020 07:02PM

Ficheall wrote: »

Are you suggesting level 3 works?

Are you suggesting the current figures have anything to do with level 5,it will another week at least before 5 would kick in to the numbers

lawrencesummers · 24-10-2020 07:02PM

All people care about is cases.

Numbers are down apparently.

Completely ignoring testing and tracing grounding to a halt, the two most vital components of actually detecting those who are positive.

Maybe is we close the labs altogether we can go to level 0?

caveat emptor · 24-10-2020 07:02PM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

This is a seasonal disease. Why is it so hard for people to understand that it was going to increase in the winter as businesses opened and people continued to do normal activities?

Was that a rhetorical question? :eek:

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Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 24-10-2020 07:03PM

Dampsquid wrote: »

How can you possibly say with certainty that the medicine that trump had was the cure. One case does not prove anything. Thinking like this brings us back to the stone age and superstition.

Just like those lads back in the stone age, we may have no choice but to come out of the cave and face the world at some point.

So we may not have time to perfect everything, or take the requisite amount of time for comprehensive trials etc. An imperfect Regeneron (or other therapeutics) may be our best option at some point in the very near future.

Staying in the cave for too long, will return many of our economies back to the stone age too!

24-10-2020 07:09PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Was that a rhetorical question? :eek:

Do you have a spreadsheet of saved posts for occasions like this or do you just enjoy trawling 3 month olds posts for perceived inconsistencies?

And there was nothing unreasonable in what you quoted, poster acknowledged there would be spikes but trusted social distancing to keep it stable. The Irish people on the other hand, we seemed to believe massive and frequent gatherings for college matches communions and a myriad of other reasons were acceptable from July through to about 2 weeks ago

spookwoman · 24-10-2020 07:11PM

Spiderman0081 · 24-10-2020 07:11PM

Would I be right in thinking that a vast majority of posters on here believe that the reduction in cases over the last couple of days is due to the level 5 restrictions?

8k71ps · 24-10-2020 07:12PM

Here lads I wouldn't read too much into 2 days, I wouldn't raise your optimism before it's butchered if it's because of contact tracing collapse etc

Goldrickssan · 24-10-2020 07:13PM

Spiderman0081 wrote: »

Would I be right in thinking that a vast majority of posters on here believe that the reduction in cases over the last couple of days is due to the level 5 restrictions?

No I don't think so.

Most know it's due to level 3 going national.

caveat emptor · 24-10-2020 07:14PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Do you have a spreadsheet of saved posts for occasions like this or do you just enjoy trawling 3 month olds posts for perceived inconsistencies?

And there was nothing unreasonable in what you quoted, poster acknowledged there would be spikes but trusted social distancing to keep it stable. The Irish people on the other hand, we seemed to believe massive and frequent gatherings for college matches communions and a myriad of other reasons were acceptable from July through to about 2 weeks ago

No I've got a good memory and there is a search function. Slight bit of a U-turn. Lecturing people on why there is no way it was seasonal in July while now wondering why people can't understand "of course cases would rise" as it's seasonal.

Throw in the test and trace will save us and I think people should remain humble about what other people should understand.

Jim_Hodge · 24-10-2020 07:16PM

Spiderman0081 wrote: »

Would I be right in thinking that a vast majority of posters on here believe that the reduction in cases over the last couple of days is due to the level 5 restrictions?

Not anybody with any sense. Too few days for a trend and too early into Level 5. We'd want to see a steeper reduction over time from a level 5.

seamus · 24-10-2020 07:17PM

If the contact tracing thing didn't put an end to Paul Reid's career, this ViraPro thing probably will.

It turns out the company that the HSE bought 3 million units of hand sanitiser from (which they've now had to remove), only came into existence in April.

Before that, they sold tourist tat; Oirish souvenirs.

If shady business and brown envelopes weren't involved, then it was incompetence on an enormous scale.

The HSE needs to be beheaded completely and reset. The entire management team are morons.

Goldrickssan · 24-10-2020 07:19PM

seamus wrote: »

If the contact tracing thing didn't put an end to Paul Reid's career, this ViraPro thing probably will.

It turns out the company that the HSE bought 3 million units of hand sanitiser from (which they've now had to remove), only came into existence in February.

Before that, they sold tourist tat; Oirish souvenirs.

If shady business and brown envelopes weren't involved, then it was incompetence on an enormous scale.

The HSE needs to be beheaded completely and reset. The entire management team are morons.

Standard HSE - get more money per capita than most countries, spend it in the worst way possible, increase management bonuses and salaries.

Rinse and repeat

Spiderman0081 · 24-10-2020 07:20PM

seamus wrote: »

If the contact tracing thing didn't put an end to Paul Reid's career, this ViraPro thing probably will.

It turns out the company that the HSE bought 3 million units of hand sanitiser from (which they've now had to remove), only came into existence in April.

Before that, they sold tourist tat; Oirish souvenirs.

If shady business and brown envelopes weren't involved, then it was incompetence on an enormous scale.

The HSE needs to be beheaded completely and reset. The entire management team are morons.

Ireland is built on brown envelopes. That’s why so many are understandably against raising taxes to solve the healthcare situation. It’s catch 22 because of corruption

Blondini · 24-10-2020 07:21PM

seamus wrote: »

If the contact tracing thing didn't put an end to Paul Reid's career, this ViraPro thing probably will.

It turns out the company that the HSE bought 3 million units of hand sanitiser from (which they've now had to remove), only came into existence in April.

Before that, they sold tourist tat; Oirish souvenirs.

If shady business and brown envelopes weren't involved, then it was incompetence on an enormous scale.

The HSE needs to be beheaded completely and reset. The entire management team are morons.

Don't often agree with you, but I'm with you on this one.

BringBackMick · 24-10-2020 07:21PM

seamus wrote: »

If the contact tracing thing didn't put an end to Paul Reid's career, this ViraPro thing probably will.

It turns out the company that the HSE bought 3 million units of hand sanitiser from (which they've now had to remove), only came into existence in April.

Before that, they sold tourist tat; Oirish souvenirs.

If shady business and brown envelopes weren't involved, then it was incompetence on an enormous scale.

The HSE needs to be beheaded completely and reset. The entire management team are morons.

Reid seemed a decent bloke, a lot of the other people I have seen presented are so unbelievably defensive and try and put any of the issues that have arisen on other people, namely those peasents breaking dem rulez

It is pathetic the HSE can get away with using COVID to cover their total mismanagement of the Irish health system

zerosugarbuzz · 24-10-2020 07:23PM

Spiderman0081 wrote: »

Would I be right in thinking that a vast majority of posters on here believe that the reduction in cases over the last couple of days is due to the level 5 restrictions?

There is a cohort of posters here who would have us locked up and locked down forever until the virus is eliminated completely. These will be likely to think level 5 is working that quickly. They are not very smart and are not capable of analytic thinking in my opinion.
There are others like me that think we need to just get on with life and let the virus work through the system. We would seem to be regarded by the first group as granny killers. Make of it what you will.

RunningFlyer · 24-10-2020 07:25PM

Put it this way; if you owned a large, financially successful company would you hire any of the HSE executives as senior executives of your private company?

Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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