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Who thinks Trump will win?

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    #6212
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Overheal wrote: »
    Yeah became 'extreme,' bring in Women's right to choose, Right to die with dignity, and marriage equality. ****ing lunatics, obviously.
    Overheal wrote: »
    Can't end something that hasn't begun.
    stefanovich wrote: »
    Life begins at conception. Any biologist would tell you that. Moral relativists might disagree but they are wrong.

    Also, people being euthanised are not alive?
    stefanovich wrote: »
    Nope. Taking another human life is never acceptable.

    Meanwhile in Holland they are working on legislation to euthanise children.

    In England a woman was pressured to abort her down syndrome child at 26 weeks.

    Pure evil.
    Overheal wrote: »
    Who ever mentioned euthanizing children?

    I clearly said people suffering terminal prognoses. If I need to be painstakingly clear, I am referring to terminally ill adults. Pulling teeth?

    And that's step 1 of the slippery slope. As I said, in Holland they are now passing legislation to kill terminally ill children.


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    #6213
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,453 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    stefanovich wrote: »
    Ending human life is about as extreme as it gets.

    Would you rather your mother/father/brother/sister had the choice to die with dignity at a time of their choosing or would you prefer they wasted away and died in agony of a terrible disease?


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    #6214
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,982 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »
    I came across an interesting thread on Reddit last weekend..

    Democratic run states and cities pay more into federal taxes then red states/cities.. red states benefit more from federal taxes then blue states..

    Socialism.. sounds like it's time to break this blue socialist union that's keeping red states afloat..

    This is true. Red States tend to be taker states and Blue states are donor states, paying more in taxes than they take back in from the treasury.

    My Rep is always going on deranged about California Socialism meanwhile California pays for itself, and our State's own shortfall several times over in addition to that.


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    #6215
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Bernie would be to the right of Fine Gael in Ireland.

    The idea he is some communist is hilarious.

    Left in the US is different to the left in Europe.

    No he wouldn't. Fine Gael would denounce the support of socialists and would not have a donate button on their website linking to socialists. He's also been an open socialist his whole adult life.


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    #6216
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,982 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    stefanovich wrote: »
    And that's step 1 of the slippery slope. As I said, in Holland they are now passing legislation to kill terminally ill children.

    K well it doesn't sound like they've actually passed anything and I'm 100% sure this election isn't happening in Holland nor does it involve any Dutch bar that guy who said he hacked Trump's twitter account. I was sad to hear that may have been a hoax.


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    #6217
    MeMen2_MoRi_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    Overheal wrote: »
    This is true. Red States tend to be taker states and Blue states are donor states, paying more in taxes than they take back in from the treasury.

    My Rep is always going on deranged about California Socialism meanwhile California pays for itself, and our State's own shortfall several times over in addition to that.

    I believe Cali/NY then Texas third iirc.. trying to find the post..

    Think three red states in the top ten contributing to taxes..


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    #6218
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Would you rather your mother/father/brother/sister had the choice to die with dignity at a time of their choosing or would you prefer they wasted away and died in agony of a terrible disease?

    We have morphine and palliative care. People may feel pressure too, feel like a burden or maybe family want them out of the picture.

    Imagine a child dealing with this.

    Evil and wrong, you'll never change my mind so we might as well drop it.


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    #6219
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,982 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »
    I believe Cali/NY then Texas third iirc.. trying to find the post

    You can always google for states that are net tax takers or givers. First result

    https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700

    With the amount of money New York Sends to washington in a year they can pay for all their expenses operated by the federal government and still have money left over to wipe out my state's entire debt. Every year, 7x over. My state has $15B of debt and New York sends $115B of tax more than it gets back in fed spending.


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    #6220
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 19,014 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Tell me how wrote: »
    I actually think Sanders would have been an easier opponent for Trump.

    I couldn't believe it when Biden won the primaries, against the candidate advocating for more widespread available healthcare at a time when Covid was decimating the country, but, that's what happened. And I say that as someone who wanted Sanders to win.

    Many Americans are bizarrely concerned that communism is at their door irrespective of the reality and it would have been easier for Trump attack Biden in this way.

    Only the stupid and disingenuous are screaming "socialism" and "communism". It's ridiculous sounding when you look at the people they're screaming it at.

    But that's all the Republicans have in their quiver. Baseless fearmongering that sounds like something from the 1950's. It's a rare thing to actually hear a member of that party espouse anything at all in regards to a positive message, even about their own policies.

    It's all negative campaigning designed to appeal to the lowest of minds.

    The current state of US politics really is at an all time low.


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    #6221
    MeMen2_MoRi_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »
    I believe Cali/NY then Texas third iirc.. trying to find the post..

    Think three red states in the top ten contributing to taxes..

    Here you go..

    https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/521875-democrat-run-cities-fuel-the-economy-keep-many-red-states-afloat

    https://www.money-rates.com/research-center/federal-income-taxes-by-state.htm

    Yeah, fcuk socialism.. facepalm.jpg


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    #6222
    MeMen2_MoRi_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    Overheal wrote: »
    You can always google for states that are net tax takers or givers. First result

    https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700

    With the amount of money New York Sends to washington in a year they can pay for all their expenses operated by the federal government and still have money left over to wipe out my state's entire debt. Every year, 7x over. My state has $15B of debt and New York sends $115B of tax more than it gets back in fed spending.

    Access denied on that link.. fcuk the EU and its privacy concerns haha


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    #6223
    juice1304
    Registered Users Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭juice1304


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Only the stupid and disingenuous are screaming "socialism" and "communism". It's ridiculous sounding when you look at the people they're screaming it at.

    But that's all the Republicans have in their quiver. Baseless fearmongering that sounds like something from the 1950's. It's a rare thing to actually hear a member of that party espouse anything at all in regards to a positive message, even about their own policies.

    It's all negative campaigning designed to appeal to the lowest of minds.

    The current state of US politics really is at an all time low.

    Then why are the left acting like totalitarians and constantly pushing socialist agendas? It's very easy to just say anyone who doesn't agree with you is below you but you have to back it up with evidence and the evidence is against you. Anyone who actually follows American politics knows this. You wouldn't though if you are just watching mainstream media and not them actually debating in the house and senate.


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    #6224
    juice1304
    Registered Users Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭juice1304


    MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »
    Access denied on that link.. fcuk the EU and its privacy concerns haha

    use a vpn


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    #6225
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 19,014 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    juice1304 wrote: »
    Then why are the left acting like totalitarians and constantly pushing socialist agendas?

    They aren't. Stop talking shite.


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    #6226
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,982 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    stefanovich wrote: »
    We have morphine and palliative care. People may feel pressure too, feel like a burden or maybe family want them out of the picture.

    Imagine a child dealing with this.

    Evil and wrong, you'll never change my mind so we might as well drop it.

    Or the child is suffering miserably. Imagine sitting through palliative care with necrotizing fasciitis or something. Watching your child go through excruciating misery.

    But you're right euthanasia is not a ballot issue in this US election so no point in your sidebar.


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    #6227
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,453 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    stefanovich wrote: »
    We have morphine and palliative care. People may feel pressure too, feel like a burden or maybe family want them out of the picture.

    So drug them up and let them.waste away until the disease kills them? How thoughtful of you.
    Imagine a child dealing with this.

    Evil and wrong, you'll never change my mind so we might as well drop it.

    Drop the subject that you bought into the thread?


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    #6228
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    juice1304 wrote: »
    use a vpn

    Blocked too.


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    #6229
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,982 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    juice1304 wrote: »
    use a vpn

    Not everyone has one that is worth a shyte. $$$


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    #6230
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,982 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Drop the subject that you bought into the thread?


    edit: wasn't he. Different user

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115033082&postcount=6176


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    #6231
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    So drug them up and let them.waste away until the disease kills them? How thoughtful of you.



    Drop the subject that you bought into the thread?

    Overheal introduced the topic of euthanasia.


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    #6232
    Tell me how
    Registered Users Posts: 21,522 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    stefanovich wrote: »
    And that's step 1 of the slippery slope. As I said, in Holland they are now passing legislation to kill terminally ill children.

    Do you understand what terminally ill means?

    They are trying to get to a place where people, who are going to die shortly anyway, can do so with some level of dignity and respect.

    It's a horrific bone chilling concept to have to thing about your child being in such a position but it's a reality many people have to place and the only question then is, would you want them to go peacefully, or in harrowing pain.


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    #6233
    juice1304
    Registered Users Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭juice1304


    Tony EH wrote: »
    They aren't. Stop talking shite.

    They used the intelligence agencies to create a false Russia narrative, They believe political violence is justified. They silence their enemies online, they attempt to use the supreme court to rewrite the constitution, they want to disarm the American people. these are only a few examples. So yes they do.


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    #6234
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,982 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    stefanovich wrote: »
    Overheal introduced the topic of euthanasia.

    Negative.


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    #6235
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Do you understand what terminally ill means?

    They are trying to get to a place where people, who are going to die shortly anyway, can do so with some level of dignity and respect.

    It's a horrific bone chilling concept to have to thing about your child being in such a position but it's a reality many people have to place and the only question then is, would you want them to go peacefully, or in harrowing pain.

    Morphine.


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    #6236
    Tell me how
    Registered Users Posts: 21,522 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    stefanovich wrote: »
    Overheal introduced the topic of euthanasia.

    You did. Post #6200


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    #6237
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Overheal wrote: »
    Negative.

    Well it wasn't me either. I was responding to your comment.


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    #6238
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Tell me how wrote: »
    You did. Post #6200

    WRong as usual.


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    #6239
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,982 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    stefanovich wrote: »
    Morphine.

    Sure yeah your terminally ill, suffering, dying child is drugged out of his mind in his last few days on Earth and still probably feels like ****. Morphine isn't magic (or cheap).

    I'm sorry I thought we were dropping this?


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    #6240
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,982 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Tell me how wrote: »
    You did. Post #6200

    No, earlier post.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115033082&postcount=6176

    6176


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    #6241
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 19,014 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    juice1304 wrote: »
    They used the intelligence agencies to create a false Russia narrative, They believe political violence is justified. They silence their enemies online, they attempt to use the supreme court to rewrite the constitution, they want to disarm the American people. these are only a few examples. So yes they do.

    Blah blah blah...

    Heard all the nonsense before lad. Still sounds like ridiculous claptrap for the simple minded.

    You can repeat all the gibberish mantras you like. It won't be any more convincing.


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