If bought, and turns out to be a lemon.

They saw you coming:D

the new untested is always the gamble

First - I like Hawke scope. I've always found them to be reliable, robust, and good value for money; and the Sidewinder has always been a decent value offering, but it seems to me they've missed a couple of opportunities here.

https://uk.hawkeoptics.com/sidewinder-30-ffp-4-16x50-ffp-half-mil.html

They're clearly staying loyal to the hunter target precision market where parallax is used as a range finder (which is why the side-wheel is in there), so the FFP offering makes a huge amount of sense - but the reticle is setup in MIL and the turrets are in MRAD.
!!Why!! would you not make it a matched unit scope? I do not understand this.
Sure - it's FFP so you can just do a conversion - but why not just index the thing to match the reticle in the first place?

Outside of that market I have a bugbear about this insistence on starting at 4x with a scope that will parallax down to 30m.
Give us an offering with a 2.5 or a 3 at the back end.

If this thing had matched units, and a 2.5-~14 option I'd be getting keen on it.
I prefer reticles with a circle element to them though, which would still be a sticking point.

extremetaz wrote: »

First - I like Hawke scope. I've always found them to be reliable, robust, and good value for money; and the Sidewinder has always been a decent value offering, but it seems to me they've missed a couple of opportunities here.

https://uk.hawkeoptics.com/sidewinder-30-ffp-4-16x50-ffp-half-mil.html

They're clearly staying loyal to the hunter target precision market where parallax is used as a range finder (which is why the side-wheel is in there), so the FFP offering makes a huge amount of sense - but the reticle is setup in MIL and the turrets are in MRAD.
!!Why!! would you not make it a matched unit scope? I do not understand this.
Sure - it's FFP so you can just do a conversion - but why not just index the thing to match the reticle in the first place?

Outside of that market I have a bugbear about this insistence on starting at 4x with a scope that will parallax down to 30m.
Give us an offering with a 2.5 or a 3 at the back end.

If this thing had matched units, and a 2.5-~14 option I'd be getting keen on it.
I prefer reticles with a circle element to them though, which would still be a sticking point.

Are the terms Mills and MRAD both not short for Millradian ? so a mills turret and an MRAD ret are both the same measurement ? its when you mix Mills or MRAD with MOA turrets you have to do the conversions. Older Hawke scopes suffered from the moa turrets and mills ret, but I think the have it sorted in these newer scopes. Just had a look at their web page, they have a mil /mrad sidewinder which would be grand same measurements but I see moa turrets offered as well but no moa ret, so I have to agree with you that they should have gone the extra mile and offered an moa ret with the moa turrets.

Don't feel bad cus your half right lol, as was I because I thought they had sorted the moa/mills on the new scope only to find out Hawke got it half right too, there moa turrets still seem to have a mill ret.