Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

UrbanFret · 22-10-2020 10:28PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Yet we had a massive panic over it in the 80s and early 90s.

Fear all over the media. Concerts raising huge sums of money.

Phenomenal virtue signaling opportunities too.

Freddie Mercury dying, absolutely milked to death by vested interests.

I was a teenager in the 80s . I can't recall much of a panic, I suppose it's a bit like my children now who don't think this is much of a deal either.;)

Steve F · 22-10-2020 10:29PM

PsychoPete wrote: »

It's just sh!t show after sh!t show, anytime you turn on the news it's just worse

Tip:- Stop watching/listening.You can get all you need to know on your phone/computer.
Why people feel the need to be watching/listening to it 18hrs a day is beyond me.
It's just the same old sh!t regurgitated day after day 7 days a week.
You'll feel better for it

s1ippy · 22-10-2020 10:30PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I haven't watched RTE news or current affairs for about two years now, and am all the better for it. You can get the headline news from many other sources. Forget the drama, fake news, so called experts, terrifying the lot of us they are. Feck them.

Do you save any time really though, because you seem to post about not watching RTÉ with intense frequency

I'm only messing, I hate it as well. It's a pox.

DaSilva · 22-10-2020 10:31PM

UrbanFret wrote: »

why would you need a vaccine against AIDs? The chances of contracting it are Tiny. Hardly a Valid comparison.

Yeah, only 36 million active HIV infections last year and 1 million deaths, nothing like the current sars-cov-2 numbers.

Atlantic Dawn · 22-10-2020 10:32PM

UrbanFret wrote: »

I was a teenager in the 80s . I can't recall much of a panic, I suppose it's a bit like my children now who don't think this is much of a deal either.;)

There was ads all over TV, they were saying you could get it from a toilet seat or from shaking someones hand. It's to a degree a lot like the waffle going on about Covid, not a single case documented of anyone getting the virus from shopping in a supermarket yet the media have people feeling like they are walking around in the core of Chernobyl when they pop out to buy a few groceries.

daydorunrun · 22-10-2020 10:32PM

UrbanFret wrote: »

I was a teenager in the 80s . I can't recall much of a panic, I suppose it's a bit like my children now who don't think this is much of a deal either.;)

It was harder to get your hole though......or maybe that was just an excuse I made up to make me feel better:)

mountgomery burns · 22-10-2020 10:32PM

niallo27 wrote: »

What is the average age of death actually, it can't be far off 80, the median age is late 80s.

The mean age is 81, and the IFR for those under 65 is circa 0.3% and that's based on confirmed cases so it would of course be much lower.

Poster was correct on the point regarding Covid fatality being higher than flu, but could not call someone a charlatan for pointing out deaths are primarily in those above 80 and that there have been very few deaths in those under 65 relative to the number of cases.

"Handful" was obviously not meant to be taken literally.

Steve F · 22-10-2020 10:33PM

Kivaro wrote: »

That's RTE for you.
I can guarantee that your mental health will radically improve if you stop watching RTE. You can easily catch up on the news online without the need to watch the purveyors of doom at RTE.
Life is too short to spend it hooked watching and listening to the constant stream of negativity from our national broadcaster. They are doing our country a major disservice.

Post of the day ^^^^

JJandthebear · 22-10-2020 10:34PM

UrbanFret wrote: »

I was a teenager in the 80s . I can't recall much of a panic, I suppose it's a bit like my children now who don't think this is much of a deal either.;)

Thats because there wasn't, certainly not in the mainstream media and definitely not over here, Freddie Mercury for example insisted he had the flu!. It took a long time for AIDs to be reported on or to be addressed on television, meanwhile it had been quietly decimating the gay community in many countries.

22-10-2020 10:34PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Actual police work?? Do you know how much paperwork comes from doing that??

Seems that they were busy giving a few fools a slap around the head earlier in Grafton street, about time too.

Strumms · 22-10-2020 10:37PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Yet we had a massive panic over it in the 80s and early 90s.

Fear all over the media. Concerts raising huge sums of money.

Phenomenal virtue signaling opportunities too.

Freddie Mercury dying, absolutely milked to death by vested interests.

There are really only two to three behaviors that will enable you to get aids.

695 people were diagnosed with AIDS in 1983-1999 in Ireland. Compare that with the 54,476 people that have been diagnosed with covid in just over 7 months in Ireland.

MelbourneMan · 22-10-2020 10:37PM

Kivaro wrote: »

That's RTE for you.
I can guarantee that your mental health will radically improve if you stop watching RTE.

Who is responsible for the find/replace of 'mood' for 'mental health', and how did they do to the whole internet in one go ?

Steve F · 22-10-2020 10:41PM

MelbourneMan wrote: »

Who is responsible for the find/replace of 'mood' for 'mental health', and how did they do to the whole internet in one go ?

I think the point being made is if you use online media wisely you won't be exposed to as much "sensationalist media hype"

Feisar · 22-10-2020 10:41PM

Not to bothered by the rules this time. They don’t apply to our elected officials so it’s a “nah yer grand” from me this time. Seems the rules don’t apply if yer attending a funeral of, what was it, someone you greatly respected. Golf for others etc.

Jinglejangle69 · 22-10-2020 10:43PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Arsehole on TV3 saying we should ban the sale of alcohol

He's actually talking nonsense.

Why are nursing homes locked down when alcohol is still for sale he asked

Ehhh...

The most vulnerable are in nursing homes.

Happydays2020 · 22-10-2020 10:44PM

Kivaro wrote: »

That's RTE for you.
I can guarantee that your mental health will radically improve if you stop watching RTE. You can easily catch up on the news online without the need to watch the purveyors of doom at RTE.
Life is too short to spend it hooked watching and listening to the constant stream of negativity from our national broadcaster. They are doing our country a major disservice.

I think they should lose public broadcaster status. Be forced to bid for public service broadcasting funds (available to all) and sell their prime land in Donnybrook for social housing purposes only and maybe a small hospital, while moving to a purpose built small facility in Ballymount.

WoollyRedHat · 22-10-2020 10:46PM

I was thinking, as much of a hames our officials have made of things, I'm sure as hell glad we don't live in Belgium, France, Italy, Czech Republic, Slovakia or Spain right now, where things are going south. Hopefully we can go into winter months with limited damage.

boardise · 22-10-2020 10:47PM

Wombatman wrote: »

Is it pronounced Enfet or Neffet?

I'll go with Enfet ---because they have the whole country enfettered.

Steve F · 22-10-2020 10:47PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

I think they should lose public broadcaster status. Be forced to bid for public service broadcasting funds (available to all) and sell their prime land in Donnybrook for social housing purposes only and maybe a small hospital, while moving to a purpose built small facility in Ballymount.

There was a rumour that the joke of a news channel "RTE News Now" was to be shut down a year or two ago.
No chance of that now

CIARAN_BOYLE · 22-10-2020 10:47PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

What is more effective? Mask at 1 metre social distance or no mask at 2 metres social distance.

I'd say 2 metre social distancing.

I'd guess there might be a tie between 1.5 metres with a mask vs 2 metre with a mask but I'm only guessing here.

harr · 22-10-2020 10:48PM

Really can’t see schools returning from midterm as planned. A lot of cases in a lot of schools the last week that’s going by the parents alert page on Facebook.
Both the schools my kids go to have hinted strongly that they could be closing for an extended period.
All school books being sent home tomorrow and log in details for on line resources .
Yes it could only be precautionary but it looks like a strong possibility at this stage .

US2 · 22-10-2020 10:49PM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Very mature attitude.

I know you're trying to be smart, but it actually is a mature attitude to get on with life. An imature attitude is hiding under your bed

boardise · 22-10-2020 10:54PM

Feisar wrote: »

Not to bothered by the rules this time. They don’t apply to our elected officials so it’s a “nah yer grand” from me this time. Seems the rules don’t apply if yer attending a funeral of, what was it, someone you greatly respected. Golf for others etc.

For accuracy can I point out that what happened in Clifden was not to do with the playing of golf. Golf was controlled but not restricted then . Some played and went home e.g. Enda Kenny ...no issue.
The problem arose with the breach of the indoor number limit at the dinner afterwards.
There's no reason to be hanging a bad rap on golf when it could have been any sporting event.

podgeandrodge · 22-10-2020 10:56PM

Omari Prehistoric Truth wrote: »

He's absolutely ridiculous.

The whole panel is painting an incredibly depressing picture. They're all discounting the possibility of vaccines coming soon.

There was something earlier today saying the current vaccines on the way might only be 30% effective or prevent 30% of infections or something. Seemed a little disappointing in terms of it being a game changer. Maybe 30% is enough to get things under control enough, dunno.

Steve F · 22-10-2020 10:59PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

There was something earlier today saying the current vaccines on the way might only be 30% effective or prevent 30% of infections or something. Seemed a little disappointing in terms of it being a game changer. Maybe 30% is enough to get things under control enough, dunno.

Yeah...recall something along those lines.
Keep in mind some experts claim the 'flu vaccine offer 30 to 50% protection too

majcos · 22-10-2020 10:59PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Yet we had a massive panic over it in the 80s and early 90s.

Fear all over the media. Concerts raising huge sums of money.

Phenomenal virtue signaling opportunities too.

Freddie Mercury dying, absolutely milked to death by vested interests.

In the early 80s, 50% of people who contracted AIDs died before treatments were developed. It was an absolutely devastating diagnosis, hence the fear was justified. 14 million people died of it by 1999.

With treatments, that mortality rate has dropped and it has become a long term illness more like diabetes in developed countries for those that have access to treatments and specialist care and now has a life expectancy in those countries which is near to the that of the general population.

In third world countries, however, the story is still very different. Of babies born with HIV who don’t receive treatment, half of them will be dead before the age of 2. It has had a massive impact on life expectancy in many African countries. Life expectancy dropped by 25-30 years in some of those countries. Rates of new infection are dropping in recent years but it still accounts for about 8% of all deaths and was the leading cause of death there until 2017.

Roger_007 · 22-10-2020 11:05PM

harr wrote: »

Really can’t see schools returning from midterm as planned. A lot of cases in a lot of schools the last week that’s going by the parents alert page on Facebook.
Both the schools my kids go to have hinted strongly that they could be closing for an extended period.
All school books being sent home tomorrow and log in details for on line resources .
Yes it could only be precautionary but it looks like a strong possibility at this stage .

The government supported by NPHET seem determined to keep the schools open no matter what. I can understand why they want to do that and I personally have no problem with keeping them open.
What they should not be doing is denying that there is any significant transmission within schools and most cases that do occur in children are are happening in their homes. It is completely illogical to claim that children can be infected in their homes but not in their schools.
In children, Covid should be regarded as just another bug that kids get and shake off without too much bother. To claim that they don’t get it and transmit it in school is just implausible.

Martina1991 · 22-10-2020 11:08PM

The GAA GPA want a number of safety measures in place before the championship start including mandatory testing.

RTE have reported:
"Counties can request testing from Croke Park, which several counties have availed of in the past weeks, but concerns have been raised in come quarters about a lack of mandatory testing as you see in other sports such as soccer and rugby."

So it looks like only a few county boards sought testing to date as opposed to it being mandatory.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1022/1173212-gpa-demand-covid-testing-at-earliest-possible-date/

Ms2011 · 22-10-2020 11:09PM

harr wrote: »

Really can’t see schools returning from midterm as planned. A lot of cases in a lot of schools the last week that’s going by the parents alert page on Facebook.
Both the schools my kids go to have hinted strongly that they could be closing for an extended period.
All school books being sent home tomorrow and log in details for on line resources .
Yes it could only be precautionary but it looks like a strong possibility at this stage .

Not really far on the kids and schools who haven't had a single case as with my kids school.
I think a school by school case would be better than just lumping all the schools in together and just shutting them all down regardless.

hotmail.com · 22-10-2020 11:12PM

The hour change of the clock should be cancelled.

Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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