Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

I Am The Law · 22-10-2020 08:03PM

majcos wrote: »

Had the press briefing on tv on in the background this evening. It’s the first time I have seen any of the press briefings since pandemic began.

It went on for about an hour and a half! Wandered in and out of room so I wasn’t watching it properly but I can’t believe how long it was on for. Is that typical? I never realized they lasted that long. Could not have watched that every day or even twice a week.

I've never watched one.

Boggles · 22-10-2020 08:03PM

daydorunrun wrote: »

RTE and G.Lee have a responsibility to be non sensationalistic. Metrics don’t work like that regardless of who came up with them.

He was quoting this evenings press release from NPHET.

Statistically as a whole the figure is accurate.

TBF there is a certain irony in you giving out about someone being sensationalist.

mr_edge_to_you · 22-10-2020 08:03PM

1212 per 100k in the Ratoath LEA. Crazy numbers.

daydorunrun · 22-10-2020 08:04PM

D.Q wrote: »

If someone is crying over a statistic on an rte broadcast, covid is the least of their worries.

Even if they are 82?

Hope you’re as tuned in when you’re that age.

mountgomery burns · 22-10-2020 08:05PM

I get that there may be some factors that have reduced the risk of death in terms of treatment or perhaps the more conscious "shielding" of vulnerable groups for want of a better word, but I am having trouble with the following.

Nolan said now we would expect to see 5 deaths per 1000 or and IFR of 0.5%. But he reckons at the height of this we were only missing 1 in 3 cases. So say if that was true of the figures up to summer's end and we have caught nearly all since I would guess that's in and around 100K.

And IFR of 0.5% though totalling 1871 would be 374,200 cases. Now I don't doubt that is in excess of the actual infections but that is not far off 4 times how many they think have been infected.

So basically even though I know the above is way to simplistic, I can't help but feel the two statements regarding estimated cases and estimated IFR don't stack up and feel that they are underestimating the total number of cases.

manniot2 · 22-10-2020 08:06PM

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

1212 per 100k in the Ratoath LEA. Crazy numbers.

Where can you see these numbers?

Boggles · 22-10-2020 08:06PM

mountgomery burns wrote: »

I get that there may be some factors that have reduced the risk of death in terms of treatment or perhaps the more conscious "shielding" of vulnerable groups for want of a better word, but I am having trouble with the following.

Nolan said now we would expect to see 5 deaths per 1000 or and IFR of 0.5%. But he reckons at the height of this we were only missing 1 in 3 cases. So say if that was true of the figures up to summer's end and we have caught nearly all since I would guess that's in and around 100K.

And IFR of 0.5% though totalling 1871 would be 374,200 cases. Now I don't doubt that is in excess of the actual infections but that is not far off 4 times how many they think have been infected.

So basically even though I know the above is way to simplistic, I can't help but feel the two statements regarding estimated cases and estimated IFR don't stack up and feel that they are underestimating the total number of cases.

IFR goes ape**** if the virus is let loose in Care Home and palliative care
facilities.

The most accurate number to extrapolate up from is probably hospitalizations.

daydorunrun · 22-10-2020 08:07PM

Boggles wrote: »

He was quoting this evenings press release from NPHET.

Statistically as a whole the figure is accurate.

TBF there is a certain irony in you giving out about someone being sensationalist.

Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

I’m not saying it wasn’t statistically correct, but people less clever than you don’t have perspective.

marno21 · 22-10-2020 08:08PM

manniot2 wrote: »

Where can you see these numbers?

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/

Funsterdelux · 22-10-2020 08:09PM

marno21 wrote: »

Ballyjamesduff LEA in Cavan now has a 14 day incidence rate of 1488, which means that 1.5% of the population of that area has tested positive in the last 14 days.

Seems a bit risky to have schools open in an environment where 1 in every 67 people has tested positive in the last fortnight.

Thats when we need localised responses, I know the countrys CT is gone Jim Bergerac, but there should be an upper limit over which schools should go online/distance till the numbers go down.

Limpy · 22-10-2020 08:11PM

Just back from collecting the little one from camogie. There's was about 300 people in the park Between walkers, parent's and players. I guess its herd immunity or bust.

Chicke · 22-10-2020 08:17PM

Dont think the restrictions are going to work like they did in March to flatten the curve.people were genuinely worried back then now they are tired/frustrated and dont take the situation seriously enough.Employers not allowing people work from home...I hope Im wrong but what happens next if this lockdown doesnt work........

Stheno · 22-10-2020 08:18PM

Chicke wrote: »

Dont think the restrictions are going to work like they did in March to flatten the curve.people were genuinely worried back then now they are tired/frustrated and dont take the situation seriously enough.Employers not allowing people work from home...I hope Im wrong but what happens next if this lockdown doesnt work........

Traffic where I live in Dublin was about 25% normal volumes today

22-10-2020 08:19PM

babyboom wrote: »

My son's year (TY) were sent home early today as the school was so short staffed. Only 5th and 6th years to attend tomorrow. Two teachers tested positive at the weekend. I suspect the other teachers have been identified as close contacts by the teachers themselves rather than the HSE.

Would make more sense to send the 5th and 6th years home

JimToken · 22-10-2020 08:22PM

Chicke wrote: »

Dont think the restrictions are going to work like they did in March to flatten the curve.people were genuinely worried back then now they are tired/frustrated and dont take the situation seriously enough.Employers not allowing people work from home...I hope Im wrong but what happens next if this lockdown doesnt work........

We just keep copying what everybody else does

PsychoPete · 22-10-2020 08:23PM

Stheno wrote: »

Traffic where I live in Dublin was about 25% normal volumes today

I passed through a few towns today, traffic was pretty much normal and the only places I seen closed was hairdressers and barber. Looked like business as usual

boardise · 22-10-2020 08:23PM

majcos wrote: »

Had the press briefing on tv on in the background this evening. It’s the first time I have seen any of the press briefings since pandemic began.

It went on for about an hour and a half! Wandered in and out of room so I wasn’t watching it properly but I can’t believe how long it was on for. Is that typical? I never realized they lasted that long. Could not have watched that every day or even twice a week.

Irish Talking League - Premier Division.

Verbosity 3; Brevity 0.
Loquacity 5; Conciseness 2
Directness 1;Digression 4

brookers · 22-10-2020 08:27PM

Chicke wrote: »

Dont think the restrictions are going to work like they did in March to flatten the curve.people were genuinely worried back then now they are tired/frustrated and dont take the situation seriously enough.Employers not allowing people work from home...I hope Im wrong but what happens next if this lockdown doesnt work........

I work in a public office, we see about 200 people a day x 5 days. ALL coming in cars with additional people and on public transport. Where I live traffic volumes very high, some non essential shops open, playgrounds packed, parents on top of each other outside school. People not avoiding you like they used to. Im not sure this lockdown is going to work in the same way as it did before.

giveitholly · 22-10-2020 08:29PM

Limpy wrote: »

Just back from collecting the little one from camogie. There's was about 300 people in the park Between walkers, parent's and players. I guess its herd immunity or bust.

There would of only been 298 if you didn't take your little one to camogie

prunudo · 22-10-2020 08:35PM

Either boards is broken again or people don't care. Haven't seen the main covid thread so quiet in a long time.

JimToken · 22-10-2020 08:37PM

China goes into lockdown

All Takeaways ordered to close

Funsterdelux · 22-10-2020 08:38PM

prunudo wrote: »

Either boards is broken again or people don't care. Haven't seen the main covid thread so quiet in a long time.

Sorry, I was out chopping wood.

boardise · 22-10-2020 08:39PM

daydorunrun wrote: »

Even if they are 82?

Hope you’re as tuned in when you’re that age.

Interesting to consider different attitudes among the elderly. One general assumption would be that anyone over, say, 80 is battle hardened and marked as a survivor -either from a good immune system or a degree of mental fortitude.
The lady referred to here exhibits some hyperanxiety about things -and there's nothing wrong with that.. perhaps being ultra cautious has been her survival ploy.

Funnily enough I saw a vox pop on Ch.4 news y'day and up pops this woman who says,and I quote, ''I'm 83 and I don't give a sod.'' She accepts she'll be checking out fairly soon and if C19 gets her - it get's her...so be it. Feisty lady . If I was the virus I'd give her a wide berth !

Supercell · 22-10-2020 08:39PM

It's funny, my local park had got back to normal in the last month or so, joggers, people walking their dogs, not particularly busy.
Last couple of days it's mobbed again, seems tell people you are restricted to 5km and they have to get out. You can tell them easily - they are the ones giving you 10 meters gap as you go by. Maybe all we need to do to combat obesety is to make the 5km permanent!

Hellrazer · 22-10-2020 08:40PM

mloc123 wrote: »

Genuine question... why do people think NPHET are "suppressing school cases"? What is the pay off for them on this?

Honestly I think if they now said schools were a major source of covid spreading in the community it would be lights out for Tony, NPHET and the government.

They just want to hold on to power no matter what.
That's all it comes down to. Despite what they say they don't give two ****s about the nations health or the economy for that matter. If they did the whole Dail and public service would be put on the PUP to save the exchequer some money.

weldoninhio · 22-10-2020 08:41PM

rodders999 wrote: »

Lost 3 hours of my life to Garda checkpoints on the way to and from work today.

If only they were as proficient at breaking up massive house parties and shutting down 3 day piss ups inside pubs after county finals as they are at inconveniencing essential workers maybe we wouldn’t be at level 5 to begin with.

Actual police work?? Do you know how much paperwork comes from doing that??

theballz · 22-10-2020 08:44PM

acupuncturist got made an essential service today but gyms aren't?
f*cking ridiculous

#openthegyms

prunudo · 22-10-2020 08:44PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Sorry, I was out chopping wood.

I was having dinner, expected to be wading through pages but barely one extra in the time i was away.

OH got stopped on way back to work after lunch earlier. She's in childcare and was within 5km eitherway but the garda was adamant she needed a letter to say she was essential worker.
I thought i read that letters weren't needed anymore, and anyway given there are no laws her attitude seemed a bit excessive given people are just trying their best.

niallo27 · 22-10-2020 08:44PM

Limpy wrote: »

Just back from collecting the little one from camogie. There's was about 300 people in the park Between walkers, parent's and players. I guess its herd immunity or bust.

How big is this team and I presume everyone else there was saying the same about you.

Limpy · 22-10-2020 08:44PM

giveitholly wrote: »

There would of only been 298 if you didn't take your little one to camogie

Im pro herd immunity so the more the merrier.

Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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