Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

eagle eye wrote: »

He never mentioned long covid and how it affects even asymptomatics.
Latest is that antibodies don't last in everybody, if anybody.
My wife is from the US, two of her friends contracted covid in April. They got tested for antibodies in June and both had them. They got tested again last week and only one has them now.

Of those known to have contracted the virus on more than one occasion most uav got a mire severe dose second time around.

Antibodys are not the be all and end all of our amazing immune situation. I thought there wss less than 6 documented cases of re infection last time I looked 2 who had it harder the second time after mild cases the first time and one death from a terminal cancer patient in their 80s. Stand to be corrected as everything moves so fast?

harr wrote: »

Anyone else notice a lot of shops staying open because they have suddenly become essential services ..
A shop close to me who would class themselves as a gift shop .. candles and likes well a lot cheap tat more on the lines of a euro shop has it on Facebook they are allowed stay open because they sell PPE ( cheap face masks)
Another textile shop pulling the same stunt and are suddenly selling PPE style products.
A lot of places seemingly trying to find loop holes..

loop holes.. trying to stay afloat morelike, fair play to them

Paddygreen wrote: »

Absolute vermin.. Why can’t they hold firm to save lives? I’m fully in favour of detention facilities that will process these reprobates into complient citizens. Works well in China, time we sent a task force to find out how things are done.

good god

Unless the gift shop has popped up in a nursing home, I'm pretty sure the customers will be safe. Do people really not look at the figures

Welcome to The Iron Curtain for the next 6 weeks or longer, it won't be easy.

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Sounds like Paul Reid needs to hand in his resignation notice fast and take ineffective middle management with him.

Never going to happen. The issue is not with the CEO it is with the fiefdoms and Unions within the HSE and I include consultants in that too.

perrito caliente wrote: »

Can you still eat/drink outside?

No, takeaway only

We lost everything because Micheal Martin has a 2 inch dick and is afraid of Mary Lou McDonald

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Never going to happen. The issue is not with the CEO it is with the fiefdoms and Unions within the HSE and I include consultants in that too.

It would be a start. They need to start cutting from the top. The ineptitude and mismanagement is a disgrace and if it doesn't happen soon, it never will. Ideally the whole shambles of the HSE needs to be scorched, start again, we will always be on the precipice of disaster if we continue with this setup. Total reform needed. This is the last chance saloon, if we don't get our act together and make rapid changes and cut off the head of the serpent we will continue to suffer. If Stephen Donnelly or the government aren't willing to do their part, they should step aside, they cannot continue to demand compliance while refusing to address the elephant in the country.

FrogmanBegins wrote: »

I think regards to antibodies they're supposed to fade after a while. It means the covid is fully gone from your system and t cells attack any future infection. I'm open to correction on this though

Depends on the disease. First come IgM antibodies which can last a few weeks. If test positive for IgM antibodies, infection is active or quite recent. Then come IgG antibodies which can last long term months to years to an entire lifetime. It is relatively easy to measure antibodies so testing for this is cheaper and more available. In some diseases, the antibody levels drop but that does not mean all immunity is gone. The upstream components of the immune system that have been triggered by the first infection are still there but dormant.

T cell immunity consists of helper cells that help B cells to produce antibodies and cytotoxic cells that directly kill infected cells. When they are first triggered, they take a while to kick in. However, once triggered, memory cells can then lie dormant but react faster and stronger if the same attacker or virus comes along. If virus attacks again, antibodies are produced more quickly and perhaps at higher levels and infected cells are mopped up more rapidly. These cells are more difficult to measure so testing is not done routinely for these type of cells.

For some diseases, even if antibodies are gone, memory T cells still exist that can react to provide some immunity to a second infection but it is technically harder to measure and quantify this type of immunity than it is to measure antibody levels.

perrito caliente wrote: »

Can you still eat/drink outside?

You must be living somewhere caliente. It’s been raining for the last 48 hours where I am. My sandwich would be very soggy if I tried to eat it outdoors.