Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

Away With The Fairies · 21-10-2020 04:54PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Hopefully they won't be with level 5 .
But you still have the schools open ...

Except asymptomatics can also work in essential services. So these people can't be stopped.

JP100 · 21-10-2020 04:55PM

46 identified outbreaks of Covid in schools last week, that's a pretty high number.

21-10-2020 04:55PM

Savage_Henry wrote: »

What does the "emergency basis only" means? I guess we as a computer repair shop just stay open as usual?

Outlets providing electrical, information and communications technology and telephone sales, repair and maintenance services for places of residence and businesses, on an emergency basis only

Time to hit the scag.

Eod100 · 21-10-2020 04:56PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Presumably. They are usually Monday and Friday. The Monday one got moved to Tuesday this week to make space for the government address Monday evening.

I thought it was Monday and Wednesday these days?

Liberalbrehon · 21-10-2020 04:58PM

Good luck with lockdown folks.
I think the Guards will be more robust this time around from what I'm hearing. Some of those billions might be getting repaid with lots of fines.

Eod100 · 21-10-2020 04:59PM

Eod100 wrote: »

I thought it was Monday and Wednesday these days?

Or is it Thursday? I dunno tbh, I'm confused myself!ha

Non solum non ambulabit · 21-10-2020 05:02PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

They are absolutely not an issue, 10000% safe....

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1318938915244548096?s=19

There are hundreds of thousands of students in thousands of schools. An outbreak is 2 or more cases in a school that could have 1000 students.

Is there possibly a chance that the students caught covid in the community and not in the school?

Over 7k people we infected last week - it is impossible for to keep it out of schools.

Goldengirl · 21-10-2020 05:03PM

Maxpfizer wrote: »

Most people were compliant, yes. I know that. The streets were deserted for the first few weeks.

We got the numbers down and then the advice was to wear masks and be careful and follow some guidelines and now we are where we are today.

Anyone walking down Grafton Street on a Friday or Saturday evening over the last 2 months would have been able to see the inevitable second lockdown coming from a mile away.

Even down to little things like buskers starting up a song and getting crowds gathered around them that people just trying to walk down the street would have to push through.

Have to say the buskers and crowds in the street ....outdoors ...never bother me .
And most people I see except a few drunk langers are nearly all wearing masks , and a lot more wearing them in the streets as well .
I am hoping that these people are still the majority and that we can get this back under control.

Eod100 · 21-10-2020 05:05PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

They are absolutely not an issue, 10000% safe....

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1318938915244548096?s=19

I guess when community transmission is so high it's inevitable. But seems a stretch to say pretty much everywhere but them should stay open and not think there could be a higher risk then.

What Username Guidelines · 21-10-2020 05:05PM

Holy moly, almost triple their original April peak.

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1318945513425821697?s=20

And 26K in the UK

Jenna James · 21-10-2020 05:08PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Holy moly, almost triple their original April peak.

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1318945513425821697?s=20

And 26K in the UK

christ on a bike..

bb1234567 · 21-10-2020 05:09PM

billybonkers wrote: »

Right so if its 3,285 calls per day (23,000 / 7 days)

That is 7.3 calls for each of the 450 staff per day then.

How long does a contract tracing call take, can anyone who was contacted comment?

7 calls is a lot considering the amount of work each one entails. Do you think finding and sourcing multiple contacts of somebody is an easy job, probably need to call each person multiple times if they dont pick up or are busy at the time. Of course one call could take a couple of hours easily. I'm sure they work normal hours 8-9 per day like most people, also everyone get's weekends. Not all of the 450 work 7 days a week that seems really unlikely, probably a shift work, some of the group work the weekends and get two weeks days off etc. No wonder there is an unfeasible work load.

But there should be at least 1000 people on the CTT team

Goldengirl · 21-10-2020 05:09PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Except asymptomatics can also work in essential services. So these people can't be stopped.

True.
But regular testing of healthcare workers looking after vulnerable patients is going on, to screen for this .
These people are restricting their contacts for months already ..

bb1234567 · 21-10-2020 05:12PM

Cant believe what's happening in Italy. Flipped the lid so feckin fast, really seemed like they had a good handle on it up until very very recently.The derioration is extremely rapid, not all that dissimilar to March really. When 1 in 3 people in a country is elderly you don't really stand a chance though with covid

Eod100 · 21-10-2020 05:15PM

Looks like this is a script contact tracers would use and just edited slightly. Reading it just highlights how ridiculous it is that people have to do it. What happens if someone is too sick? Also huge issue of not being anonymous by having to contact people yourself. What a major feck up!

https://twitter.com/michellehtweet/status/1318947153679667200

wadacrack · 21-10-2020 05:17PM

In a few weeks we might be thankfull we have had strict protocals compared to europe. Rates extremely high and only October

Longing · 21-10-2020 05:20PM

The UK is spiraling out of control. Crazy numbers across the water. Belgium also on the brink reporting soon the will have to decide who gets ICU bed. Shocking the way its gone. Really sad to see.

mountgomery burns · 21-10-2020 05:20PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Looks like this is a script contact tracers would use and just edited slightly. Reading it just highlights how ridiculous it is that people have to do it. What happens if someone is too sick? Also huge issue of not being anonymous by having to contact people yourself. What a major feck up!

https://twitter.com/michellehtweet/status/1318947153679667200

It's an absolute joke but just on the issue of people being too sick, would that not be an issue anyway as they wouldn't be able to take the call from contact tracers in the first place?

Stheno · 21-10-2020 05:21PM

wadacrack wrote: »

In a few weeks we might be thankfull we have had strict protocals compared to europe. Rates extremely high and only October

That's the only positive I can see about going to level 5 tbh, but it's a big positive

Jenna James · 21-10-2020 05:22PM

Longing wrote: »

The UK is spiraling out of control. Crazy numbers across the water. Belgium also on the brink reporting soon the will have to decide who gets ICU bed. Shocking the way its gone. Really sad to see.

The report on Belgium is frightening.
I'm noticing a lot of people I know are just making up the rules to suit themselves and I will be keeping away from 1 person in particular as I believe they are a close contact but aren't planning on a test. He works in a school too (non-teaching). :mad:

bb1234567 · 21-10-2020 05:23PM

wadacrack wrote: »

In a few weeks we might be thankfull we have had strict protocals compared to europe. Rates extremely high and only October

Yeh I'm beginning to think that myself, for a while I thought maybe we were going overboard because Sweden somehow managed so well despite their outlook on it but now the situations getting so bad in places that opened up their economies such as Argentina where 30,000 people are currently hospitalised or czech republic which has over 4000 in hospital now has changed my opinion on this yet again.

Given how fast our cases are growing even with the restrictions we had I think we would go the way of those countries rather than Sweden. I dont know what Sweden did so right but it looks like a bit of a fluke at this stage, that they just got lucky rather than the rest of the world overreacting, their success has been replicated in very few places worldwide who took similar relaxed approach to deling with outbreak suppression

s1ippy · 21-10-2020 05:23PM

seamus wrote: »

Apparently this "do the tracing yourself" initiative is a temporary thing.

It's probably a form of amnesty; a realisation that if they don't do this, then the entire system will be backlogged by a week or more. So better to let this 2,000 effectively fall through the cracks rather than incur delays in the next 10,000.

If the HSE is to be believed, they're back on top of the case load.

Big "If".

Did you not hear the ads on the radio.

"Coronavirus is here, and it cares about your backlog."

manniot2 · 21-10-2020 05:24PM

Stheno wrote: »

That's the only positive I can see about going to level 5 tbh, but it's a big positive

Level 3 equivalent is the most anywhere else will go for a prolonged period. I think they understand proportionality which unfortunately is lost on NPHET.

Eod100 · 21-10-2020 05:24PM

mountgomery burns wrote: »

It's an absolute joke but just on the issue of people being too sick, would that not be an issue anyway as they wouldn't be able to take the call from contact tracers in the first place?

I guess it depends, some people might be well enough to think of names but fairly different to think of them and then have to let them all know individually. Maybe it wouldn't be a massive issue but just think the whole thing is farcical tbh

SortingYouOut · 21-10-2020 05:26PM

manniot2 wrote: »

Level 3 equivalent is the most anywhere else will go for a prolonged period. I think they understand proportionality which unfortunately is lost on NPHET.

That's really working for them, have you seen the state of Europe? We've just bitten the bullet that bit earlier.

Funsterdelux · 21-10-2020 05:27PM

seamus wrote: »

Look, I'm just some idiot who knows how to use Excel.

I .

Made me think of one of my favourite Hugh Grant movies.

manniot2 · 21-10-2020 05:29PM

SortingYouOut wrote: »

That's really working for them, have you seen the state of Europe? We've just bitten the bullet that bit earlier.

No it isnt working, because they arent even at those level of restrictions yet. Come back to me when any country in Europe matches our restrictions.

Eod100 · 21-10-2020 05:30PM

There's an asterisk around schools because transmission risk there has not necessarily been established. Why is same health warning not any other setting?

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1318944963888119809

SleetAndSnow · 21-10-2020 05:31PM

Deaths look to be increasing around Europe again? Nearly 200 in the UK today and nearly 130 in Italy as well as Poland. Kind of makes a bit at ease we bit the bullet to go into level 5 a bit earlier to hopefully avoid these, Belgium looks to be in trouble with hospital numbers.

7aubzxk43m2sni · 21-10-2020 05:33PM

From my younger sibling's Politics class in school:

Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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