Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

Plumbthedepths · 17-10-2020 07:10PM

pjohnson wrote: »

Well the first reccomendation was for 4 weeks, the next was 6 weeks. The more the government shítearse around the longer any level 5 will be as it is getting worse by the day.

Any thinking about business will surely understand that the shorter the Level 5 the better as the sooner they can reopen.

Nphet was asked what was the plan after 4 weeks according to Leo. I believe silence was the response

Hellrazer · 17-10-2020 07:10PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

The 3 amigos? Sleepy, Leaky and Mehole?

The 3 muppets of the apocalypse more like.

pc7 · 17-10-2020 07:11PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

The 3 amigos? Sleepy, Leaky and Mehole?

That’s them

cannotlogin · 17-10-2020 07:11PM

One of the most disappointing things about this is the realisation that we will never have a functioning health service in Ireland.

Never before had there been more need, focus, and money available to get it together and if we didn't do it now, we never will.

We had a 6 month window of opportunity to get it together and the government/NPHET squandered it.

prunudo · 17-10-2020 07:12PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

The 3 amigos? Sleepy, Leaky and Mehole?

Mehole(s) sleeply and leaky ?

Hellrazer · 17-10-2020 07:12PM

prunudo wrote: »

Is that not 4 though?

No its 4.885215444855255522111444

Definitely not level 5!!

ZX7R · 17-10-2020 07:14PM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Can you try again, should be working now.

Read it .
Just to add a little more information to it from local media ,the county I live in has received an extra 800 icu beds. Spread across the 3 largest cities in the county. theses beds will take up existing spaces so the field hospitals are being constructed to make up for lost spaces in the hospitals that got the extra icu beds.

ACitizenErased · 17-10-2020 07:14PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Nphet was asked what was the plan after 4 weeks according to Leo. I believe silence was the response

This is my biggest issue to be honest. NPHET have no plan.

is_that_so · 17-10-2020 07:15PM

Hellrazer wrote: »

Going level 5 will have the opposite effect...people are that pissed off with the lack of direction and enforcement that they wont abide by level 5 restrictions.

Level 3 needs more time to work. There is already some evidence that its working albeit very slowly.

The rumour that they might wait until the end of this coming week has merit. It gives them time to work out what the next level might look like. The trouble with Level 5 is when it can be unwound and some people are not taking into account just how long that would take. It is effectively Christmas gone.

manniot2 · 17-10-2020 07:16PM

The only justification for this L5 is if they actually believe we will have a vaccine very soon. Then I can understand, it’s worth closing everything and destroying society if it’s saves one elderly life. However if there’s no vaccine and this is about covering the HSEs backside (which I strongly suspect it is), this is a disasterous plan and one we will be in and out of for years.

spookwoman · 17-10-2020 07:16PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

The 3 amigos? Sleepy, Leaky and Mehole?

Sounds like a gastric dose or STD

is_that_so · 17-10-2020 07:19PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Nphet was asked what was the plan after 4 weeks according to Leo. I believe silence was the response

This is something they really have to get past, either to manage the message better, this could be 8 weeks but we hope 4 weeks will be enough or to just stop using arbitrary week numbers - so a Level 5 is just that and we have no end date to it.

Curious_Case · 17-10-2020 07:21PM

Polar101 wrote: »

Going to get groceries is pretty exciting, compared to last year. It's one of the most exciting things I do these days.

I like to leave my reading glasses at home. That way, I'm never quite sure what I've bought.

I'm becoming quite fond of the adrenaline rush I get when I'm unpacking.

marno21 · 17-10-2020 07:23PM

I am at a loss as to what can be achieved by Level 5 that can’t be achieved with Level 3 with enforcement?

The 5km rule, shuttering of businesses etc are not going to reduce the R number. Actual enforcement of Level 3 measures would be more beneficial than putting hundreds of thousands on the PUP.

is_that_so · 17-10-2020 07:25PM

marno21 wrote: »

I am at a loss as to what can be achieved by Level 5 that can’t be achieved with Level 3 with enforcement?

The 5km rule, shuttering of businesses etc are not going to reduce the R number. Actual enforcement of Level 3 measures would be more beneficial than putting hundreds of thousands on the PUP.

I suspect it is this last point that has the government most concerned.

podgeandrodge · 17-10-2020 07:25PM

marno21 wrote: »

I am at a loss as to what can be achieved by Level 5 that can’t be achieved with Level 3 with enforcement?

The 5km rule, shuttering of businesses etc are not going to reduce the R number. Actual enforcement of Level 3 measures would be more beneficial than putting hundreds of thousands on the PUP.

This. This. This. They have provided NO justification for shutting controlled retail businesses down, or indeed pubs/restaurants really once measures are in place.

They continually say that the problem is parties/celebrations of large groupings and then want to cancel you getting a tv in Power City.

mcburns07 · 17-10-2020 07:26PM

marno21 wrote: »

I am at a loss as to what can be achieved by Level 5 that can’t be achieved with Level 3 with enforcement?

The 5km rule, shuttering of businesses etc are not going to reduce the R number. Actual enforcement of Level 3 measures would be more beneficial than putting hundreds of thousands on the PUP.

The plan is make things as strict as they can so that they can say “we tried” and blame the public.

tom1ie · 17-10-2020 07:28PM

ZX7R wrote: »

Read it .
Just to add a little more information to it from local media ,the county I live in has received an extra 800 icu beds. Spread across the 3 largest cities in the county. theses beds will take up existing spaces so the field hospitals are being constructed to make up for lost spaces in the hospitals that got the extra icu beds.

Where’s this?
Sorry just jumping in on the thread here.

landofthetree · 17-10-2020 07:28PM

mcburns07 wrote: »

The plan is make things as strict as they can so that they can say “we tried” and blame the public.

But then it is the public's fault.

is_that_so · 17-10-2020 07:30PM

tom1ie wrote: »

Where’s this?
Sorry just jumping in on the thread here.

The story linked to is about Poland.

ZX7R · 17-10-2020 07:30PM

tom1ie wrote: »

Where’s this?
Sorry just jumping in on the thread here.

In Poland

fritzelly · 17-10-2020 07:31PM

What is the point of any level if nothing is done to enforce it?

They plan to have legislation in place by the end of the month is it? Houston we have a problem

ACitizenErased · 17-10-2020 07:32PM

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1317533765477031937?s=20

I Am The Law · 17-10-2020 07:33PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

This. This. This. They have provided NO justification for shutting controlled retail businesses down, or indeed pubs/restaurants really once measures are in place.

They continually say that the problem is parties/celebrations of large groupings and then want to cancel you getting a tv in Power City.

Does Power City still exist? "£99.99"

Pretzill · 17-10-2020 07:34PM

I don't know if anything drastic will work at this stage - it looks like numbers are up right across the country - I have done everything I can do to avoid this since March - took all advice - had a pretty quiet year so far...but I could still catch covid despite that. The only thing a lockdown (the levels system is beyond confusing) will achieve is to relieve the health service in a time of crisis. And we all know our health service will need that.

odyssey06 · 17-10-2020 07:34PM

I Am The Law wrote: »

Does Power City still exist? "£99.99"

Yes and now with queues to get in!

stephenjmcd · 17-10-2020 07:36PM

Even if its level 4, its essentially the same as 5. There are very few differences.

Why close retail? That just doesn't appear to be an issue and it's really all you hit in level 4 while adding hundreds of thousands onto social welfare. Closing retail isn't going to make much difference at all.

Elephant in the room is the schools, you can do what you want but in my opinion nothing works while they're open.

is_that_so · 17-10-2020 07:37PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

Yes and now with queues to get in!

You can't really "go in", just up to the barrier inside! It's like a giant sweetshop with everything miles behind the counter!

Rjd2 · 17-10-2020 07:38PM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

People are still working on-site who can work remotely. Businesses/ Line Managers should have to provide justification if they require employees on-site presence.

I don't think enforcing this would be a game changer on its own, but this is something and maybe its just Anecdotal that is happening way to much in the last few months especially in offices and needs to be tacked ASAP.

niamh247 · 17-10-2020 07:40PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Even if its level 4, its essentially the same as 5. There are very few differences.

Why close retail? That just doesn't appear to be an issue and it's really all you hit in level 4 while adding hundreds of thousands onto social welfare. Closing retail isn't going to make much difference at all.

Elephant in the room is the schools, you can do what you want but in my opinion nothing works while they're open.

How dare you talk about schools ... Did you forget that you need to leave all your reasoning and common sense aside when talking about schools?

Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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