Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

Plumbthedepths · 17-10-2020 06:25PM

martingriff wrote: »

Well the virus is also a science subject in fairness

It's also an economic subject, political subject etc etc.

Atlantic Dawn · 17-10-2020 06:25PM

DeanAustin wrote: »

The likes of Tesco, Aldi and Lidl have had queues where I am today. Mind boggling stuff. Those shops won’t close no matter what lockdown we go into.

Must be the 'let it rip merchants' as Tony calls them

prunudo · 17-10-2020 06:26PM

AlphaDelta1 wrote: »

Just goes to show how incredibly thick people are in general here.

They're not thick, people are panicked. The food shops won't be closed but at the same time people might not want to visit shops as regularly so they feel they need to stock up now.
There was couple in front of me in dunnes today with 2 full trolleys, excessive yes, but maybe they were shopping for vulnerable family or neighbours.

Jenna James · 17-10-2020 06:26PM

greenfield21 wrote: »

The irish media is creating a smokescreen to get away from the government failings. Just spend all day discussing npet and levels and let the fools buy it.

100%. The problem is, much of society are buying into their BS.

AlphaDelta1 · 17-10-2020 06:27PM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Poland planning to ramp up training for nurses and considering creating military field hospitals, as situation deteriorates. Czech Republic also plans to call up thousands of medical students.

That's awful what's happening over there. Hopefully they can get a handle on things.

Oranage2 · 17-10-2020 06:27PM

Why do people care so much about people buying stuff? It's called stimulating the economy plus it's only the person's business if they're stocking up on pasta or whatever.

WoollyRedHat · 17-10-2020 06:27PM

greenfield21 wrote: »

The irish media is creating a smokescreen to get away from the government failings. Just spend all day discussing npet and levels and let the fools buy it.

HSE invincible to any real criticism also.

Goldrickssan · 17-10-2020 06:28PM

Do people expect the government to just make a decision like this with a click of the fingers?

So many people foaming at the mouth for them to announce level 5. These people clearly aren't thinking about the tens of thousands who will be out of work, out of a business again overnight...

spookwoman · 17-10-2020 06:28PM

martingriff · 17-10-2020 06:29PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

It's also an economic subject, political subject etc etc.

Yes and all those correspondents have there say especially the economic ones which is only righ

Beasty · 17-10-2020 06:29PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

What are the ** next to Monaghan and Leitrim? No cases as the test centre closed for some reason?

Necro wrote: »

Less than 5 cases so they don't report for data protection reasons I think.

If you look at the NPHET document they do go down to specific figures for all counties in their county breakdown, although they go back two days for such stats. If they say perhaps 0 for a county but someone knows they have tested positive and they think they should be in today's figures (and they may actually be in tomorrow's) it maybe helps avoid confusion/questions.

cannotlogin · 17-10-2020 06:29PM

I don't get the big issue with the contact tracing backlog. If I discovered I had covid, I would simply contact everyone I had been in close contact with, out of courtesy and let them know so they could get tested of they wanted to.

Why are people not capable of doing their own contact tracing in general or if they were in a workplace, let the workplace now, a beer garden, let the owner know why?

Surely, it's only common decency.

dmc17 · 17-10-2020 06:29PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Why do people care so much about people buying stuff? It's called stimulating the economy plus it's only the person's business if they're stocking up on pasta or whatever.

It's because when the next person comes in for a bag of pasta for their dinner there is none there as some asshat has his garden shed full with pasta at home for no reason

s1ippy · 17-10-2020 06:30PM

prunudo wrote: »

They're not thick, people are panicked. The food shops won't be closed but at the same time people might not want to visit shops as regularly so they feel they need to stock up now.

While everyone else is doing it! They can clearly see that their timing is perfect!

mcburns07 wrote: »

Must feel familiar to you :pac:

I'm making pizzas tonight for dinner. Nothing could faze me...

... ah sh!t the virus.

GazzaL · 17-10-2020 06:31PM

Looney1 wrote: »

Was talking to someone in contact tracing. They said at the start of the day that has 1100 calls to make for level 3 calls(informing contacts). They managed to get through 800. When they were finishing the backlog was 2100!!. Contact tracing on a knife-edge.

Ah here, NPHET don't give a bollocks about contact tracing. It's easier for them to lock down the country than to do anything pragmatic.

UrbanFret · 17-10-2020 06:32PM

AlphaDelta1 wrote: »

That's awful what's happening over there. Hopefully they can get a handle on things.

They had less cases than us for ages. We're doing as well as anyone in Europe.

brookers · 17-10-2020 06:32PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

He also advised the nursing homes not to restrict visitors. That worked out well.

Is there anyway we can get over this. I genuinely believe he is doing his best to keep us safe. Im sure he doesnt want covid to rip through the country, what good would that be, imagine if the kids cant go to school or creche and loads of staff out sick. Do people really think he wants to to go to level 5 for the craic and Philip Nolan, and Glynn and Colm Henry.....all want this. Imagine christmas with loads of cases every day and more deaths and people singing around the christmas tree while their colleagues, family friends are either sick in hospital or at home stuck in isolation being miserable. Then you have people with very little symtoms going into work and all the misery associated with that, managers not managing, staff all uptight. Come on, im sure he not saying all of this to MM and LV just for the laugh....

MelbourneMan · 17-10-2020 06:34PM

AlphaDelta1 wrote: »

The rate is still growing slowly in Dublin despite L3 for 4 weeks. That's what I find worrying.

This makes the case for a nationwide L5, clearly. These numbers needed to fall much faster than that to avoid it High rates in he likes of Monaghan are of course concerning. But have nothing like the modelling impact of sustained, even if stable, high absolute numbers in Dublin, in the projections for ICU capacity. Which is the real push for Level escalation. The numbers in Dublin are simply too high now, and cannot possibly fall quickly enough to keep the hospital numbers low in the coming weeks.

I fear it is already too late. The projections were there a fortnight ago, and the government position of economic support preparation and delayed that.

The virus doesnt wait until the mood of the people is right. The country is in for a rocky ride now for two months. Which makes the still seemingly live discussion about L3, L4 or L5, waiting to see what happens, reviews on Thursday and so on, a surreal and slow coming to terms with the inevitable rather than a real consideration. Announcement on L5 nationally would be my advice to the committee.

I Am The Law · 17-10-2020 06:34PM

s1ippy wrote: »

While everyone else is doing it! They can clearly see that their timing is perfect!

I'm making pizzas tonight for dinner. Nothing could faze me...

... ah sh!t the virus.

Goodfellas out of a box is not making. (I also "made" a pizza.)

Plumbthedepths · 17-10-2020 06:34PM

dmc17 wrote: »

It's because when the next person comes in for a bag of pasta for their dinner there is none there as some asshat has his garden shed full with pasta at home for no reason

This, several stories on Sky news from March where frontline workers went shopping after a shift only to find the shelves empty. Selfish , self centered pr*cks.

Beasty · 17-10-2020 06:34PM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Poland planning to ramp up training for nurses and considering creating military field hospitals, as situation deteriorates. Czech Republic also plans to call up thousands of medical students.

Poland is big into its Speedway and there have been a number of World Championship events televised live - I've been very surprised at numbers attending, lack of social distancing and not many wearing masks.

I think some countries did very well (including Ireland) in the "first wave" and thought they could relax things but locals have maybe assumed it was under control and simply did not expect it to blow up again resulting in people being lax as it has ramped back up

DeanAustin · 17-10-2020 06:34PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Why do people care so much about people buying stuff? It's called stimulating the economy plus it's only the person's business if they're stocking up on pasta or whatever.

Because when you go to the shop, you’ve to stand around for 10-20 mins while all the panic buyers are in there buying industrial quantities of food that’ll probably never be eaten and that there is no need to bulk buy anyway. It’s just more selfish knee jerk carry on.

ZX7R · 17-10-2020 06:36PM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Poland planning to ramp up training for nurses and considering creating military field hospitals, as situation deteriorates. Czech Republic also plans to call up thousands of medical students.

Have you got a link re Poland building field hospitals ,as I live in Poland and the only thing I heard about field hospitals is that the polish government offored military assistance to the Czechsto build medical field hospitals in response to there covid situation

s1ippy · 17-10-2020 06:42PM

I Am The Law wrote: »

Goodfellas out of a box is not making. (I also "made" a pizza.)

I freeze a hape of pieces of dough at one time and defrost them on the morning we're having pizza. Don't worry, I'm going to post the results in the eatening later. I think I've put on a stone this week comfort eating.

Richard Chambers (@newschambers) Tweeted:
Fine Gael Ministers to be briefed at 11am tomorrow - they were meant to get an update around now (6.30pm) https://t.co/rFgRGN7Efh https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1317519596430176258?s=20

Every day they waste could be another week of needing restrictions. This is time wasting on a criminal scale.

Necro · 17-10-2020 06:42PM

brookers wrote: »

Is there anyway we can get over this. I genuinely believe he is doing his best to keep us safe. Im sure he doesnt want covid to rip through the country, what good would that be, imagine if the kids cant go to school or creche and loads of staff out sick. Do people really think he wants to to go to level 5 for the craic and Philip Nolan, and Glynn and Colm Henry.....all want this. Imagine christmas with loads of cases every day and more deaths and people singing around the christmas tree while their colleagues, family friends are either sick in hospital or at home stuck in isolation being miserable. Then you have people with very little symtoms going into work and all the misery associated with that, managers not managing, staff all uptight. Come on, im sure he not saying all of this to MM and LV just for the laugh....

Honestly, I think everyone is doing their best at the top level. Problem is people are frustrated, and scared sh1tless in some cases.

So the natural reaction is to lash out and blame someone. I'm guilty of it myself, like when I tested positive I was looking for someone to blame.

But the truth is it's no one's fault. It's a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic and nobody, career politicians, experienced healthcare professionals, virologists, nobody has dealt with it before.

Yes there have been mistakes on all fronts, but that is part of dealing with something you have never encountered before. It's a lot of trial and a lot of error.

I mean this post is likely to be attacked with various failures of both the government and NPHET and while they ring true, I absolutely have no doubt they are trying their absolute best for the good of the country.

I just sometimes wish they stopped playing the 'game' and were 100% honest with people. But maybe the truth would scare us even more, I dunno.

AlphaDelta1 · 17-10-2020 06:43PM

cannotlogin wrote: »

I don't get the big issue with the contact tracing backlog. If I discovered I had covid, I would simply contact everyone I had been in close contact with, out of courtesy and let them know so they could get tested of they wanted to.

Why are people not capable of doing their own contact tracing in general or if they were in a workplace, let the workplace now, a beer garden, let the owner know why?

Surely, it's only common decency.

Of course, that's because you are a decent person. Unfortunately we have a fairly high percentage of people not even bothering to turn up for tests because they aren't.

WoollyRedHat · 17-10-2020 06:43PM

ZX7R wrote: »

Have you got a link re Poland building field hospitals ,as I live in Poland and the only thing I heard about field hospitals is that the polish government offored military assistance to the Czechsto build medical field hospitals in response to there covid situation

Yes see here- https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-poland-record/poland-ramps-ups-health-training-as-covid-19-cases-hit-fresh-records-idUKKBN26Z134

ZX7R · 17-10-2020 06:45PM

Beasty wrote: »

Poland is big into its Speedway and there have been a number of World Championship events televised live - I've been very surprised at numbers attending, lack of social distancing and not many wearing masks.

I think some countries did very well (including Ireland) in the "first wave" and thought they could relax things but locals have maybe assumed it was under control and simply did not expect it to blow up again resulting in people being lax as it has ramped back up

Speedway is huge in Poland to get around restrictions they ran all there events in outdoor arenas to avoid number restrictions on spectator's and social distancing and avoid the need for masks to be worn

SleetAndSnow · 17-10-2020 06:45PM

s1ippy wrote: »

I freeze a hape of pieces of dough at one time and defrost them on the morning we're having pizza. Don't worry, I'm going to post the results in the eatening later. I think I've put on a stone this week comfort eating.

Richard Chambers (@newschambers) Tweeted:
Fine Gael Ministers to be briefed at 11am tomorrow - they were meant to get an update around now (6.30pm) https://t.co/rFgRGN7Efh https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1317519596430176258?s=20

Every day they waste could be another week of needing restrictions. This is time wasting on a criminal scale.

Not like there are thousands of businesses hanging in limbo or anything. What a joke

pjohnson · 17-10-2020 06:46PM

Goldrickssan wrote: »

Do people expect the government to just make a decision like this with a click of the fingers?

So many people foaming at the mouth for them to announce level 5. These people clearly aren't thinking about the tens of thousands who will be out of work, out of a business again overnight...

Well the first reccomendation was for 4 weeks, the next was 6 weeks. The more the government shítearse around the longer any level 5 will be as it is getting worse by the day.

Any thinking about business will surely understand that the shorter the Level 5 the better as the sooner they can reopen.

Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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