Galway GAA Discussion Thread #2

Utopia Parkway · 14-10-2020 11:34am

grbear wrote: »

Odd looking team in some ways.

Sean Andy is the one that sticks out. The general consensus in springtime was that Joyce didn't rate him and I half expected him to be gone from the panel. Fair play to him if he has managed to play himself back into contention though.

I wouldn't be sure that Sean Andy is back first choice again but with the players unavailable and the fact that Galway don't desperately need the points I think there is a bit of experimentation going on as well and giving lads a chance before the championship.

macslash · 14-10-2020 12:36pm

With Daly out for the year, would a fit and sharp Sean Andy push Sean Mulkerrins out to #6. Might be worth a look?

threeball · 14-10-2020 2:35pm

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

I wouldn't be sure that Sean Andy is back first choice again but with the players unavailable and the fact that Galway don't desperately need the points I think there is a bit of experimentation going on as well and giving lads a chance before the championship.

Exactly, its obvious from the team named that at least 7 or 8 won't be on the team come championship. Its about giving lads a chance to prove themselves in the circumstances and the fact we will probably meet Mayo again in a month. No point showing the cards now.

Utopia Parkway · 14-10-2020 3:00pm

macslash wrote: »

With Daly out for the year, would a fit and sharp Sean Andy push Sean Mulkerrins out to #6. Might be worth a look?

Possibly. Mulkerrins actually usually plays 6 for his club even though he's always played at 3 for Galway up through underage.

macslash · 14-10-2020 7:01pm

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Possibly. Mulkerrins actually usually plays 6 for his club even though he's always played at 3 for Galway up through underage.

That's where I was coming from. I still think it'll be Silke at #6 but at least it's another option anyway

JohnnyFlash · 14-10-2020 11:48pm

Excuse my ignorance, but why isn't Damien Comer starting?

Not keeping up with the news surrounding the footballers.

threeball · 15-10-2020 4:14pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance, but why isn't Damien Comer starting?

Not keeping up with the news surrounding the footballers.

I presume all the big names will be rested for this one with a potential championship match with Mayo and a league decider with Dublin round the corner.

DVDM93 · 16-10-2020 9:26am

ffs.

TCDStudent1 · 16-10-2020 9:30am

DVDM93 wrote: »

ffs.

There is a video on twitter too.

wirelessdude01 · 16-10-2020 9:50am

The rags have little to.be doing. You can be sure the same went on in every junior, intermediate and senior club country wide that won a championship.

Only difference here is that it has caused county team issues.

DVDM93 · 16-10-2020 10:39am

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

There is a video on twitter too.

yeah I got that in Whats App too alright.

macslash · 16-10-2020 11:31am

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

The rags have little to.be doing. You can be sure the same went on in every junior, intermediate and senior club country wide that won a championship.

Only difference here is that it has caused county team issues.

That's not really a defence though is it? They should have known better

wirelessdude01 · 16-10-2020 11:43am

macslash wrote: »

That's not really a defence though is it? They should have known better

Not defending anything. I'm from Mayo so anything that weakens the Galway team for Sunday!!!

My point was that the rags have little to be doing putting photos up like that.

DVDM93 · 16-10-2020 11:49am

macslash wrote: »

That's not really a defence though is it? They should have known better

Nope, it's not, more perspective than anything really.

They should have known better, and I'm sure they did & knew the inevitable consequence.

The statement released by Moycullen was a case of shutting the stable doors after the horse had bolted too.

Every other team in the country done it as has been mentioned, they were never going to let that get in the way of celebrating their first ever county final.

I'm not defending them btw, but it is what it is & it was never not going to happen.

I think we all could called this that bar a Corofin county final win then there was always going to be the likes of these celebrations.

I'm sure Corofin would have too albeit would have been something not entirely new for them.

DVDM93 · 16-10-2020 11:51am

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Not defending anything. I'm from Mayo so anything that weakens the Galway team for Sunday!!!

My point was that the rags have little to be doing putting photos up like that.

true.

even more so like you've said & like we'll agree it's been happening up & down the country for weeks.

a bit sh1tty they got collared for this like they have compared to others.

in thr grand scheme of things they were wrong mind.

TCDStudent1 · 16-10-2020 12:07pm

DVDM93 wrote: »

true.

even more so like you've said & like we'll agree it's been happening up & down the country for weeks.

a bit sh1tty they got collared for this like they have compared to others.

in thr grand scheme of things they were wrong mind.

The difficulty for the GAA is that they are powerless to stop those type of celebrations once the matches go ahead. The only thing the GAA can do to prevent it is to not hold the matches at all.

seligehgit · 16-10-2020 4:46pm

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

The difficulty for the GAA is that they are powerless to stop those type of celebrations once the matches go ahead. The only thing the GAA can do to prevent it is to not hold the matches at all.

Well said.

That's the crux of dilemma facing the GAA.

ShamNNspace · 16-10-2020 5:34pm

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

The difficulty for the GAA is that they are powerless to stop those type of celebrations once the matches go ahead. The only thing the GAA can do to prevent it is to not hold the matches at all.

In hindsight would it have been better to hold off on the finals until the new year?

mjp · 16-10-2020 7:47pm

DVDM93 wrote: »

From my understanding of it is that PJ rated him & still does obviously.

But he'd put on a bit of timber & the form had dipped along with it as was visibly noticeable.

There may have been an ultimatum given & obviously it would seem he's put the head down since & is back to his best, fair play to him.

Seen Sean andy in championship game against oranmore and first time seeing him up close in flesh in club game and he looked to have trimmed down and in top shape. He's a colossus of a man and may well be needed Sunday with Aidan o shea named at 14 for mayo eventhough he may play further out the field. Healthy competition in this position will be good to get the best out of both players.

ShamNNspace · 17-10-2020 4:51pm

Great display and result for the under 20s

Happyilylost · 17-10-2020 5:10pm

ShamNNspace wrote:

Great display and result for the under 20s

Some phenomenal displays. Even with our Moycullen lads missing I think Kerry may of been hit worse with virus/injuries. Some of these lads will relish trying to right the wrongs of the U20 semi final last year.

17-10-2020 5:40pm

They won the minor but we won the most important under age grade in terms of senior potential.

We've been consistent at minor the past few years and its starting to filter through to U20.

Its amazing that in that near 10 year period without a senior Connacht, we were equally poor at underage grade bar two out of the blue wins in 2011 and 2013.

As the senior team started to win in Connacht, the minors also bridged the gap and everything has just been on an upward curve.

It's not about winning minors, its really about being competitive.

It's the opposite in hurling, won a few minors but uncompetitive at U20 and nobody is filtering through to the senior team as a result.

SqueakyKneecap · 17-10-2020 5:45pm

Massively impressed with that secomd half. Lads like Cooley, Tierney and Hernon were unreal. To miss Kelly, Sweeney and Culhane while producing that level a performance is a credit to the panel and management.

Regardless of what happens in the coming week with restrictions they can be fierce proud.

Doctors room ghost · 18-10-2020 9:33am

The best of luck to joycey and the footballers today.

Heraldoffreeent · 18-10-2020 12:38pm

Lads, I've never been this excited about a league match! Hon the Galway biys!!

ShamNNspace · 18-10-2020 12:59pm

Im glad its going ahead but I find it all a bit surreal good luck to the lads, its not easy. Social distancin go's out the window when ye cross the white line ðŸ˜‰

grbear · 18-10-2020 1:20pm

Not great.

To put it mildly.

18-10-2020 1:23pm

What utter tripe.

Sean Andy's first contribution was to foul OShea who was facing away from goal.
Always just pulls and drags people needlessly.

That kickout from Gleeson on 17mins shows we have no ploy, all the space was on the right and its booted where 12 players are and we lose it.

Wont be winning an AI when you can't perfect the only aspect of the game you have full control over.

Utopia Parkway · 18-10-2020 1:32pm

This will be the end of Sean Andy again for a while. Just gave away 2 needless points in 2 minutes.

He's in good physical condition but still does daft things.

18-10-2020 1:33pm

I'm getting close to turning this off now.

Even after all the tripe we watched under KW this is probably worse than any of that.

No idea how to win our knockouts, just thumping it into a packed midfield and then man marking on theirs instead of just marking.

It's like some of these managers never tried to see what aspects of Dublins game they could replicate.
Those two kickout aspects are core to their success.

ShamNNspace · 18-10-2020 1:36pm

Can't watch it anymore.. Depressing

threeball · 18-10-2020 1:36pm

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

This will be the end of Sean Andy again for a while. Just gave away 2 needless points in 2 minutes.

He's in good physical condition but still does daft things.

His size stood to him at underage but hid the fact he's just not a good footballer. When he can't out muscle he fouls. Quite what he's doing up in the half forward line when his main position is in crisis mode is anyones guess.

SqueakyKneecap · 18-10-2020 1:37pm

It's only League but this is gutless stuff. They're afraid to touch Moran.

In fairness Mayo are playing lovely stuff but they're not getting a single challenge in on them and the kickouts/Sean Andy are an absolute ****show.

threeball · 18-10-2020 1:38pm

ShamNNspace wrote: »

Can't watch it anymore.. Depressing

I knew we were in trouble the minute I saw the team. PJ said it was picked on form. If thats really the case God help us.

ShamNNspace · 18-10-2020 1:41pm

To allow mayo into tuam an do that to us, brutal, brutal, brutal.. Nightmare stuff... Someone wud want ta tell the backs at half time that social distancin doesn't apply once you cross the white line

Utopia Parkway · 18-10-2020 2:14pm

Gleeson should never have come out for that goal. Shocking.

testtech05 · 18-10-2020 2:16pm

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Gleeson should never have come out for that goal. Shocking.

Very poor decision alright. There has been a lot of them all around today unfortunately

Utopia Parkway · 18-10-2020 2:19pm

Gleeson gives away another point.

ShamNNspace · 18-10-2020 2:20pm

More messin hands mayo a point

testtech05 · 18-10-2020 2:21pm

ShamNNspace wrote: »

More messin hands mayo a point

Can't remember too many they had to work too hard for

ShamNNspace · 18-10-2020 2:26pm

Galway giving an exhibition on social distancin.. That mayo lad looks like a young mick o dwyer

cannotlogin · 18-10-2020 2:31pm

This is probably some of the worst muck I've seen from Galway in a while.

Gleeson & Sean Andy are seriously bad at reading the ball. Responsible for a lot of Mayo's scores.

Happyilylost · 18-10-2020 2:42pm

Obviously poor. From the team named to play Mayo on the 10th of March vs. The team that started today was 9 changes. I think some perspective. Rather the performance today than in a month's time. Still. Some of the lads given their chance to put their hand up for a spot didn't do much. Thought D' Arcy Conroy and Finnerty played ok. Flynn and Varley ok off the bench. No idea how Leonard lasted the game. Barely knew he was playing for most of it. Most of the rest ranged from poor to very poor.

SqueakyKneecap · 18-10-2020 2:42pm

Reminded me a lot of that Tipp match in 2016. A complete and utter system failure from the line and the players. Mayo coulda ran up 50 points easily.

Utopia Parkway · 18-10-2020 2:51pm

Happyilylost wrote: »

Obviously poor. From the team named to play Mayo on the 10th of March vs. The team that started today was 9 changes. I think some perspective. Rather the performance today than in a month's time. Still. Some of the lads given their chance to put their hand up for a spot didn't do much. Thought D' Arcy Conroy and Finnerty played ok. Flynn and Varley ok off the bench. No idea how Leonard lasted the game. Barely knew he was playing for most of it. Most of the rest ranged from poor to very poor.

First time I saw Leonard was when the Mayo lad almost nutmegged him down in the corner and that was mid way through the 2nd half. He's a good club player but that's it.

Yes it's only the league with a lot of players unavailable but you don't want to be producing a horror show like that with championship around the corner (if it goes ahead).

I know they were under serious pressure but 1 and 3 between them probably gave away an easy 1-10 to Mayo.

threeball · 18-10-2020 2:59pm

Happyilylost wrote: »

Obviously poor. From the team named to play Mayo on the 10th of March vs. The team that started today was 9 changes. I think some perspective. Rather the performance today than in a month's time. Still. Some of the lads given their chance to put their hand up for a spot didn't do much. Thought D' Arcy Conroy and Finnerty played ok. Flynn and Varley ok off the bench. No idea how Leonard lasted the game. Barely knew he was playing for most of it. Most of the rest ranged from poor to very poor.

Mayo shy of some first team choices too. You get a real insight into a panel in games like these. Most of these lads are next in line to come on when the lads missing today aren't playing well or available. They were really poor but that's only one aspect, they also didn't play the game the same way the first team were back in March. That shows that unless the first 15 are constantly available the ability to execute a style of play isn't present throughout the panel. I wouldnt hold out much hope for them against Dublin and without Shane Walsh the entire team have no drive or purpose to the way they play.

Happyilylost · 18-10-2020 3:01pm

Utopia Parkway wrote:

I know they were under serious pressure but 1 and 3 between them probably gave away an easy 1-10 to Mayo.

I'm not a big fan of Gleeson. But up until today pre covid he hadn't put a foot wrong bar a black card against Donegal. His mid range kick outs and ability to find a runner are sub standard. It's either short or boot it down the middle. What are the options though? Go back to Power who was sub keeper today. Or O Bealaoin. Kickouts are better from both but they are prone to mistakes. I felt PJ could of went to the nuclear option and brought in Flaherty from the U20s. Excellent under a high ball. Can place a kickout on a sixpence. And is comfortable on the ball. Might be too late for that now. I don't think Tyrone lost the run of themselves when Galway hammered them out the gate earlier in the league and I would hope PJ and the team will be able to regroup from this.

Finally hopefully Duane and more importantly Comer aren't too badly hurt.

Happyilylost · 18-10-2020 3:03pm

threeball wrote:

Mayo shy of some first team choices too. You get a real insight into a panel in games like these. Most of these lads are next in line to come on when the lads missing today aren't playing well or available. They were really poor but that's only one aspect, they also didn't play the game the same way the first team were back in March. That shows that unless the first 15 are constantly available the ability to execute a style of play isn't present throughout the panel. I wouldnt hold out much hope for them against Dublin and without Shane Walsh the entire team have no drive or purpose to the way they play.

Included in the players we had missing was our 3, 6, 8, 9, 11 and 14

ShamNNspace · 18-10-2020 3:11pm

Terrible disappointing from Galway though as others have said, I wouldn't go paintin the sheep yet if I was from mayo

Utopia Parkway · 18-10-2020 3:12pm

Happyilylost wrote: »

Included in the players we had missing was our 3, 6, 8, 9, 11 and 14

Kelly and Mulkerrin would have helped the full-back line. Mulkerrin would have had his hands full with O'Se but at least he doesn't tend to do daft things and foul as much as SA.

Not sure what you do with the keeper. Gleeson was OK during the league. Good shot stopper but his kickouts are awful ropey at times.

John Daly unfortunately is a serious loss at 6. Thought he was Galway's best player during the league after Walsh.

Maher looked out of his depth in midfield. D'Arcy did OK today but you'd probably have some combination of Flynn, Steede and maybe Conroy in there.

Walsh and Comer are just essential for this team to function. The other forwards can play off them but they can't lead the line like they can.

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