Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

Turtwig · 15-10-2020 05:37PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Can you send us the link to your YouTube channel where you convincingly show us where he's wrong and how badly he has misread official reports and graphs, I think it's very important that he is shown to be as bad as you say he is?

Just went on his tweeter there.
He retweeted a tweet saying it was thought in February the fatality rate was 5% nobody fcking thought that! Then the tweet used that pathetic statement to claim covid is 100 times less severe than swine flu.

In short, if he was worth any merit he would not be retweeting such blatant crap.

On a pedantic note as far back as February the infection fatality rate, globally, was estimated at 0.5%.The case fatality rate, globally, was around 3%.

TonyMaloney · 15-10-2020 05:37PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Ok, here's one of his videos...

Would luv to hear you tell me why it's so wrong and I can stop watching his videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UvFhIFzaac

that's 37 minutes of tripe

nobody has the time

Tenzor07 · 15-10-2020 05:37PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

You'll have to point me to where I suggested they're similar in ways other than the rubbish they spout about COVID there.

You put them in the same sentence so as to imply parity between the two, I was just curious as how alike they are?

Tenzor07 · 15-10-2020 05:39PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

that's 37 minutes of tripe

nobody has the time

Ah ok, you implied that you were willing to "Debunk" him as such, I guess not...

Tenzor07 · 15-10-2020 05:41PM

Turtwig wrote: »

Just went on his tweeter there.
He retweeted a tweet saying it was thought in February the fatality rate was 5% nobody fcking thought that! Then the tweet used that pathetic statement to claim covid is 100 times less severe than swine flu.
In short, if he was worth any merit he would not be retweeting such blatant crap.
On a pedantic note as far back as February the infection fatality rate, globally, was estimated at 0.5%.The case fatality rate, globally, was around 3%.

I guess as a guy who retweeted something that wasn't his opinion and wasn't stated as fact by him, plus he's not a figure in authority that this example isn't a reason for people to stop watching his videos?

GazzaL · 15-10-2020 05:42PM

Gerry Killeen should emigrate and get a job writing for the Daily Express.

Tenzor07 · 15-10-2020 05:44PM

GazzaL wrote: »

Gerry Killeen should emigrate and get a job writing for the Daily Express.

There's probably a lot of support for what Gerry Killeen stated last night on here, can they possibly point us to the scientific reasoning that shows without further restrictions that we will see 30,000 people die in the coming months?

Turtwig · 15-10-2020 05:46PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

I guess as a guy who retweeted something that wasn't his opinion and wasn't stated as fact by him, plus he's not a figure in authority that this example isn't a reason for people to stop watching his videos?

Why would you retweet some thing that is blatantly false? Especially when it could influence people's behaviors and perception of the illness. That's just irresponsible at best.

You don't think he was endorsing the opinion of the tweet? Given his collection of retweets it is an incredible stretch of the imagination to suppose he retweeted the information because he thought it was false.

15-10-2020 05:48PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

There's probably a lot of support for what Gerry Killeen stated last night on here, can they possibly point us to the scientific reasoning that shows without further restrictions that we will see 30,000 people die in the coming months?

He said 30,000 people will die? That is fckin insane. The guy should not be allowed airtime

SeaBreezes · 15-10-2020 05:50PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Ok, here's one of his videos...

Would luv to hear you tell me why it's so wrong and I can stop watching his videos:

Here you go.. MSI Fact Check: Dr Dominic Pimenta (UK ICU doctor, director MSI) watches Ivor Cummins (@fatemperor) video "Viral issue, crucial update" and does a live fact check.

weldoninhio · 15-10-2020 05:52PM

mandrake04 wrote: »

You do realise that the majority of Australia has been living a very normal life for the last 4 months? Even majority of people in Melbourne support the police and that lady got what she deserved and some think they didn’t go far enough.

The police in in Australia are actually real police ...they are not like the Guards where most people who not following the guidelines don’t really take them that seriously.

She literally only posted a message on Facebook. How far should they have gone. Christ, thank god looneys like you are in the tiny minority. Thought crimes would be through the roof, people would be getting “re-educated” by the dozens in special camps.

Arghus · 15-10-2020 05:52PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Can you send us the link to your YouTube channel where you convincingly show us where he's wrong and how badly he has misread official reports and graphs, I think it's very important that he is shown to be as bad as you say he is?

This is a pretty decent debunking of a few of his claims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKGYKVNDS1Y

File him away with that other clown Michael Levitt.

Gael23 · 15-10-2020 05:58PM

What numbers are we looking at today?

OwenM · 15-10-2020 05:58PM

Deleted User wrote: »

He said 30,000 people will die? That is fckin insane. The guy should not be allowed airtime

One thing he did say, a vaccine arriving at all "is a coin toss". That's reasonable given none ever arrived for SARS-1 and decades were spent looking for one for HIV. So what's the end game here, when, at what point in time, do we know there won't be a vaccine, we don't!

So what's the strategy here? Gerry also regularly asks that question.

Where I don't agree with him: eradication is not possible. So what's the end game? We cannot rely on the arrival of a vaccine.

DOCARCH · 15-10-2020 05:59PM

Gael23 wrote: »

What numbers are we looking at today?

A combination involving 0123456789

However, I'm going for 910.

shinzon · 15-10-2020 06:00PM

Theres a briefing at 6pm apparently

Shin

Arghus · 15-10-2020 06:01PM

Deleted User wrote: »

He said 30,000 people will die? That is fckin insane. The guy should not be allowed airtime

As I understood it the figure he used was based on the idea of the potential death toll over the entire duration of the pandemic if it was allowed to run riot with no control measures. And he said "20-30 thousand" He wasn't saying that we'll have that death figure as things stand.

It's not a totally outlandish figure to be honest. With a severe lockdown we still had 1800 deaths, which would have been much higher without the efforts made to suppress the virus. And we'll have more deaths in this second wave and until this is finished.

He can come across as very odd on TV whenever he's interviewed and loads of people on here think he's a madman, but the longer this goes on the more I think he's actually telling it like it is.

bennyl10 · 15-10-2020 06:01PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Can you send us the link to your YouTube channel where you convincingly show us where he's wrong and how badly he has misread official reports and graphs, I think it's very important that he is shown to be as bad as you say he is?

Why is having a YouTube channel a requirement to show a crack pot is a crackpot?

Loafing Oaf · 15-10-2020 06:03PM

Gael23 wrote: »

What numbers are we looking at today?

Something appropriate like 911, 999...

owlbethere · 15-10-2020 06:04PM

There should be fines for people breaking isolation:

Tenzor07 · 15-10-2020 06:04PM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

Here you go.. MSI Fact Check: Dr Dominic Pimenta (UK ICU doctor, director MSI) watches Ivor Cummins (@fatemperor) video "Viral issue, crucial update" and does a live fact check.

Saw that, the comments are interesting....

mandrake04 · 15-10-2020 06:04PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Ok, here's one of his videos...

Would luv to hear you tell me why it's so wrong and I can stop watching his videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UvFhIFzaac

a) Sounds like he fell off a turnip cart

b) he knows his audience and cleverly makes the facts and figures fit their retarded narrative. To some it’s almost believable.

He writes nutrition books etc, any exposure is better than no exposure ...right?

niallo27 · 15-10-2020 06:06PM

Arghus wrote: »

As I understood it the figure he used was based on the idea of the potential death toll over the entire duration of the pandemic if it was allowed to run riot with no control measures. And he said "20-30 thousand" He wasn't saying that we'll have that death figure as things stand.

It's not a totally outlandish figure to be honest. With a severe lockdown we still had 1800 deaths, which would have been much higher without the efforts made to suppress the virus. And we'll have more deaths in this second wave and until this is finished.

He can come across as very odd on TV whenever he's interviewed and loads of people on here think he's a madman, but the longer this goes on the more I think he's actually telling it like it is.

The majority of them deaths happened at the start when nobody knew anything about it and it was allowed to get into nursing homes. Unless we go back to having no restrictions, I cannot see how we will reach anywhere near them deaths

bennyl10 · 15-10-2020 06:08PM

1205 cases
3 deaths

bennyl10 · 15-10-2020 06:09PM

288 in Dublin

Level 3 isn’t working

This is a daily valid post

Santy2015 · 15-10-2020 06:09PM

Was up the walls at work, just saw this!!!
Crack head killeen was at it again last night

https://youtu.be/CPmWYFlUK54

Goldrickssan · 15-10-2020 06:09PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

288 in Dublin

Level 3 isn’t working

This is a daily valid post

Open the pubs and close the schools

SimonTemplar · 15-10-2020 06:10PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

288 in Dublin

Level 3 isn’t working

This is a daily valid post

I wonder if this is because level 3 isn't restrictive enough or because too many people aren't following the restrictions?

Fakediamond · 15-10-2020 06:10PM

Kasey_Don wrote: »

What happens if there's no vaccine?

They’ll finally get track and trace working properly and we can all get on with our lives.

Santy2015 · 15-10-2020 06:11PM

SimonTemplar wrote: »

I wonder if this is because level 3 isn't restrictive enough or because too many people aren't following the restrictions?

People aren’t following the guidelines

Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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