Farming Chitchat 10/10- Now VIRUS-FREE!

Say my name · 14-10-2020 10:38PM

NcdJd wrote: »

I can mix this with soil too Say my name ? Do you have to wait a period of time or can you use the char straight away ?

A friend of mine has cattle so I can get some cow manure off himself..he owes me a couple of trailers for all the unpaid work I done for him over the summer

If you quench it with the dirty water from the manure you can use it straightaway.
Otherwise leave in the compost for six weeks.

That coleus was grown in char quenched in seaweed water. With washed Ormus put through the char and then rinsed through.
Ormus is seawater with the sodium and chlorine removed and the precipitate rinsed four times.
It's all elsewhere online so it's no secret anyways..

Yea you can mix it in soil. It's just if it wasn't loaded up with nutrients first it could be six months to a year soaking up nutrients from the soil. It wouldn't do a plant any good if was near it in that time.
But once loaded up. Good to go.

NcdJd · 14-10-2020 11:06PM

gozunda wrote: »

Does anyone know if the new restrictions on visitors to households/ gardens apply to farm yards adjacent to a house?

The covid regulations seem to getting more complex by the day tbh

Wouldn't have thought so man. Jaysus funny this evening a friend of mine was coming in the driveway as he wanted to get a couple of pumpkins for his nieces and nephews. Oulfella came marching up the driveway and told him to back that fckin car out of here your not allowed come in here..

Its gonna be a long winter..:(

Can't argue with him. Just had to laugh. Lad didn't know what hit him.

Reggie. · 14-10-2020 11:18PM

NcdJd wrote: »

Wouldn't have thought so man. Jaysus funny this evening a friend of mine was coming in the driveway as he wanted to get a couple of pumpkins for his nieces and nephews. Oulfella came marching up the driveway and told him to back that fckin car out of here your not allowed come in here..

Its gonna be a long winter..:(

Can't argue with him. Just had to laugh. Lad didn't know what hit him.

Kinda ignorant really

NcdJd · 14-10-2020 11:29PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Kinda ignorant really

Well his long time friend passed away the previous day in icu from covid so he's a bit freaked about it.

14-10-2020 11:46PM

_Brian wrote: »

Eco eye is painting a bleak picture of farming and environment. To the outside eye to see figures fromTeagasc quoted that 83% of beef farmers are making no profit, and then farmers saying farmers are just farming cattle for the subsidies.

It paints a bad picture of farming.

I'll phrase it wrong, but it was asked in the farm census thread what some peoples problem with sending back the form is, there it is above in bold.

I know, this is from Teagasc and it isn't the same. But, it's the reason I decline to participate in/leave schemes where I'm obliged to hand over information about my farm. Don't believe that it's just a box ticking exercise to pay a farmer for a scheme. That information informs policy or is available to others to bash farming.

Nekarsulm · 14-10-2020 11:47PM

Coming to the end of a weeks stay in LoL, up in Whelan country!
Going back to a locked down county, and 6 weeks in a full leg cast.
Jeez, could do without this, tbh.

Birdnuts · 15-10-2020 01:00AM

I've been binging on John Lennon stuff since the WE(should be his 80th birthday)- quiet apart from his amazing back catalogue the man is definitely the most interesting person I've ever seen on any chat show ever, the old interviews with him by the likes of Parkinson are memorising(even the ones with Yoko present!!;)

whelan2 · 15-10-2020 05:47AM

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Coming to the end of a weeks stay in LoL, up in Whelan country!
Going back to a locked down county, and 6 weeks in a full leg cast.
Jeez, could do without this, tbh.

What happened? I could have called into you last night. Young lad trains in track across the road

whelan2 · 15-10-2020 05:48AM

NcdJd wrote: »

Wouldn't have thought so man. Jaysus funny this evening a friend of mine was coming in the driveway as he wanted to get a couple of pumpkins for his nieces and nephews. Oulfella came marching up the driveway and told him to back that fckin car out of here your not allowed come in here..

Its gonna be a long winter..:(

Can't argue with him. Just had to laugh. Lad didn't know what hit him.

Will you sell all the pumpkins now that most of the pumpkins spectaculars aren't going ahead?

Nekarsulm · 15-10-2020 06:35AM

whelan2 wrote: »

What happened? I could have called into you last night. Young lad trains in track across the road

Slipped at training and destroyed my left knee.
Quad muscles ripped off the bone at the kneecap.
Great care here, top class surgical team.
You really realise how much you have to trust them as they hold the mask onto your face and say " here comes the vodka and tonic" ...

NcdJd · 15-10-2020 08:05AM

whelan2 wrote: »

Will you sell all the pumpkins now that most of the pumpkins spectaculars aren't going ahead?

Bit of a disaster, lost about 40 percent of them with the rot on the vines earlier in September due to the wet conditions in August. One place that was gonna take em cancelled. Spoke to two other growers the weekend who'd be doing alot more than what I done and they are having the same problems with stem rot and outlets.

Bad year whelan. All I'll say is people really need to support the Irish horticultural industry in their purchases because I can see a few hanging on by a shoe string this year and may not be in business next year. Although you could apply that to alot of other local businesses at the moment too.

_Brian · 15-10-2020 08:18AM

NcdJd wrote: »

Bit of a disaster, lost about 40 percent of them with the rot on the vines earlier in September due to the wet conditions in August. One place that was gonna take em cancelled. Spoke to two other growers the weekend who'd be doing alot more than what I done and they are having the same problems with stem rot and outlets.

Bad year whelan. All I'll say is people really need to support the Irish horticultural industry in their purchases because I can see a few hanging on by a shoe string this year and may not be in business next year. Although you could apply that to alot of other local businesses at the moment too.

That’s a balls for us on top of the leg.

Do the pumpkin represent much % of your overall operation?? Sounds like an expensive situation to carry.

NcdJd · 15-10-2020 08:26AM

_Brian wrote: »

That’s a balls for us on top of the leg.

Do the pumpkin represent much % of your overall operation?? Sounds like an expensive situation to carry.

No Brian, it was a crop I was trying out to get back into some sort of part time veg operation and if that worked scale up. I've a full time job too but the pumpkins were to be a side line. It's back to the drawing board for me on this, I'll keep chipping away though at it. I had a few regular people during the summer who'd buy a box of veg off me so might concentrate on doing something like that.

It's a good job I didn't plant 30 thousand of them

baby steps as they say is a very wise approach.

Waffletraktor · 15-10-2020 09:08AM

NcdJd wrote: »

No Brian, it was a crop I was trying out to get back into some sort of part time veg operation and if that worked scale up. I've a full time job too but the pumpkins were to be a side line. It's back to the drawing board for me on this, I'll keep chipping away though at it. I had a few regular people during the summer who'd buy a box of veg off me so might concentrate on doing something like that.

It's a good job I didn't plant 30 thousand of them baby steps as they say is a very wise approach.

Look into supplying pre packed/proportioned meals for people. Ie veg and meat for a Sunday roast for 5 people, pre packed beef stir fry ingredients kind of thing.

NcdJd · 15-10-2020 09:15AM

Waffletraktor wrote: »

Look into supplying pre packed/proportioned meals for people. Ie veg and meat for a Sunday roast for 5 people, pre packed beef stir fry ingredients kind of thing.

Might do man. It's a big eye opener for me. Its a long way from when my father was going at it we'd just grow the crop and straight into the market, donnellys or up to ballymun. Guaranteed an outlet once the produce was good quality.

whelan2 · 15-10-2020 09:22AM

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Slipped at training and destroyed my left knee.
Quad muscles ripped off the bone at the kneecap.
Great care here, top class surgical team.
You really realise how much you have to trust them as they hold the mask onto your face and say " here comes the vodka and tonic" ...

Alot of people give out about olol,I couldn't fault it tbh and we are very lucky it's not far away from us. Thought I'd be heading in with young lad ladt night. He bent his thumb back in training. Has broken it twice before. But deep heat and a chipper fixed it

wrangler · 15-10-2020 10:34AM

NcdJd wrote: »

Might do man. It's a big eye opener for me. Its a long way from when my father was going at it we'd just grow the crop and straight into the market, donnellys or up to ballymun. Guaranteed an outlet once the produce was good quality.

Beef producers need an education like you've experienced, The market is very fickle, some think that when they produce a product there'll be a market, those breeding pedigree bulls this year have seen it, I also learnt it when I commenced breeding pedigree rams and it definitely doesn't work to add up all your costs and add a margin and charge that price

NcdJd · 15-10-2020 10:50AM

wrangler wrote: »

Beef producers need an education like you've experienced, The market is very fickle, some think that when they produce a product there'll be a market, those breeding pedigree bulls this year have seen it, I also learnt it when I commenced breeding pedigree rams and it definitely doesn't work to add up all your costs and add a margin and charge that price

Good advice I'll be definitely looking at other things over the winter. I enjoy growing things wrangler so there's a bit of disappointment but as you say the thing is to learn from the mistakes, I'll keep chipping away while I find it enjoyable.

wrangler · 15-10-2020 11:02AM

NcdJd wrote: »

Good advice I'll be definitely looking at other things over the winter. I enjoy growing things wrangler so there's a bit of disappointment but as you say the thing is to learn from the mistakes, I'll keep chipping away while I find it enjoyable.

A few around here have tried vegetable boxes and didn't last so it's not simple.
A husband and wife near here made a great success of vegetables and had to buy land to do it, but they worked very hard at it.
I had to change enterprises a few times in my farming career and I can safely say it takes five years to get it to the stage where there are no surprises.

Siamsa Sessions · 15-10-2020 11:06AM

wrangler wrote: »

Beef producers need an education like you've experienced, The market is very fickle, some think that when they produce a product there'll be a market, those breeding pedigree bulls this year have seen it, I also learnt it when I commenced breeding pedigree rams and it definitely doesn't work to add up all your costs and add a margin and charge that price

I was reading a book about marketing recently and it had something about the difference between sales and marketing.

Sales is producing a product and then going looking for customers. Marketing is finding out what the customers want and then producing it for them.

Too many people are not even aware of their customers never mind say changing to meet their needs.

Best of luck NcdJd - you’re probably ahead of the curve already

NcdJd · 15-10-2020 11:07AM

wrangler wrote: »

A few around here have tried vegetable boxes and didn't last so it's not simple.
A husband and wife near here made a great success of vegetables and had to buy land to do it, but they worked very hard at it.
I had to change enterprises a few times in my farming career and I can safely say it takes five years to get it to the stage where there are no surprises.

My brother said I should get a couple of cattle ha. It's a good job I read the the tales of hardship in here

I'd probably have a few Angus wandering around outside !

NcdJd · 15-10-2020 11:09AM

Siamsa Sessions wrote: »

I was reading a book about marketing recently and it had something about the difference between sales and marketing.

Sales is producing a product and then going looking for customers. Marketing is finding out what the customers want and then producing it for them.

Too many people are not even aware of their customers never mind say changing to meet their needs.

Best of luck NcdJd - you’re probably ahead of the curve already

Thanks for that Siamsa. Watch this space as they say.

Hard Knocks · 15-10-2020 11:33AM

Do many here buy Agritech products
Going to give minerals (cows calves & yearlings)
Would you advise Optimare or Welmin multiboost?

Lady Haywire · 15-10-2020 01:12PM

Took heifers over to Carrigallen earlier & really opened my eyes to the risks people take on the road. There were a number of times I was wincing as cars passed out on corners, white lines etc & missed others by mere feet. And I wasn't going a snails pace either & was pulling in if more than 3 were behind me. No bloody patience & tell you what, if you whacked an oncoming car you'd lose all those precious seconds you saved waiting behind the tractor.

On top of that I waved to my next door neighbour who was also heading away from the mart as I was heading off for green cert direct. Now he's one of the most careful drivers you could meet & just heard he got hit by a lorry over near Cavan. Now he's ok as he rang Dad but I'd put money on it not being his fault.

Say my name · 15-10-2020 01:32PM

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Took heifers over to Carrigallen earlier & really opened my eyes to the risks people take on the road. There were a number of times I was wincing as cars passed out on corners, white lines etc & missed others by mere feet. And I wasn't going a snails pace either & was pulling in if more than 3 were behind me. No bloody patience & tell you what, if you whacked an oncoming car you'd lose all those precious seconds you saved waiting behind the tractor.

On top of that I waved to my next door neighbour who was also heading away from the mart as I was heading off for green cert direct. Now he's one of the most careful drivers you could meet & just heard he got hit by a lorry over near Cavan. Now he's ok as he rang Dad but I'd put money on it not being his fault.

I hate driving the tractor on the road.
I couldn't wait till I was finished drawing straw.

Now it is easier if you've a bigger tractor. People are more inclined to wait if you've size and can do 40 or above.
With my ford doing 30 people just pass out on the stupidest of places not even slowing down.

I reckon people don't give themselves time any more and look for that adrenalin rush in passing a tractor at speed. The sat nav time is probably a target to beat. And then their whole lives fall apart if they're held up.
Or maybe they're just knobs!

Panch18 · 15-10-2020 01:53PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Alot of people give out about olol,I couldn't fault it tbh and we are very lucky it's not far away from us. Thought I'd be heading in with young lad ladt night. He bent his thumb back in training. Has broken it twice before. But deep heat and a chipper fixed it

I found myself in a serous health situation going up the M1 there a few years ago and was taken to Our Lady's in Drogheda

Have to say i got excellent attention from all when i was there, really dealt with situation very well and i was there for a decent amount of time. My specialist later told me that they had done everything by the book and i was lucky it was that hospital that i had been taken to.

So i have a lot of time for the guys at Our Lady's - big thanks to them

Anto_Meath · 15-10-2020 01:57PM

What I find hard to understand is when you are meeting cars, some people seem like they would prefer crash into a tractor then keep close to the ditch when they are meeting you.

roosterman71 · 15-10-2020 02:04PM

Anto_Meath wrote: »

What I find hard to understand is when you are meeting cars, some people seem like they would prefer crash into a tractor then keep close to the ditch when they are meeting you.

That's 100%. Ya'd see cars actually getting further away from the ditch as they approach. My own technique now is to hold my position and not be swinging in out of the way at the first sign of a car coming. That just encourages them to stay coming and not pull in. When we do get close, they'll have slowed down (hopefully) and both can pull in then for space. In tight spots, I'll get in as close as I can, and then don't move. Let the car be the one to pass me and not the other way around. Can't be blamed for "hitting" them then if I'm not moving :pac:

15-10-2020 02:34PM

Anto_Meath wrote: »

What I find hard to understand is when you are meeting cars, some people seem like they would prefer crash into a tractor then keep close to the ditch when they are meeting you.

A dashcam is an invaluable thing to have. As long as the owner realises it can equally incriminate them as well as other road users.

NcdJd · 15-10-2020 05:13PM

Anyone know what type of horse this horseshoe would have been on ? It's massive and heavy. Cigarette lighter for scale.

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