Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

pauldry · 15-10-2020 03:10PM

yes but we are 10 days behind NI

RebelButtMunch · 15-10-2020 03:10PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Well I for one am livid .Livid with the HSE for not getting its act together when numbers were low and getting tracking and tracing up and running efficiently .Livid with people who gathered in houses, in crowds , after matches, clucked in groups after dropping kids to school .Livid with young people who gather in huge crowds on greens and couldnt be arsed moving aside when I want to pass them on a path .Livid that the Government cannot spend money on where its needed for bed capacity and health services . Livid with anyone who thinks they are far too important to abide by the rules and stay bloody out of my space in a shop

I did everything asked of me and still do and what did that get me ? Back to no visitors or no one in my garden ? So I cant meet my friend in my garden 10 feet apart but can talk to my neighbour over the garden wall at 6 feet because she is not in my garden ?
It wont matter if they call it Level 903 because the same arseh~les will flaunt it anyway and do as they damn please /.

I totally agree. I'm raging myself. Raising the level is only inconveniencing the people that are respecting the level in the first place!

screamer · 15-10-2020 03:11PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Good to see now people speaking out about how the restrictions are unfair on people who live alone

https://www.thejournal.ie/support-bubbles-ireland-5233871-Oct2020/

Pity they didn’t speak up to sooner to say the behaviour of some people was unfair on others, and would have these type of knock on effects, but that’s Ireland for you, all mouth and no teeth.

bennyl10 · 15-10-2020 03:13PM

Any word on when NPHET are due to meet?

pauldry · 15-10-2020 03:15PM

today I think

JDD · 15-10-2020 03:17PM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Your sentiment is correct however 4 to 6 weeks will make no impact. It will have to be 12 weeks minimum. This is based on real life evidence from lockdowns around the world to date.

Is there an appetite in the public for this? I don't think so, especially as it will encompass Christmas.

I'm not convinced by it having to be 12 weeks.

My view is that covid was massively more widespread in February than it is now. We may only have been picking up 20 or 30 cases a day in mid-March, but you can be sure there were actually thousands of them. When we fully locked down on 27 March the number of cases being found by testing was still increasing and continued to increase until mid April when we had 7 or 800 cases a day. By the start of May - five weeks after full lockdown started, the number of positive tests was at around 200 a day.

Given that we all know we weren't picking up half the actual cases in mid April, getting the number of positive cases down to 25% of the peak after five weeks is a massive achievement. And it's possible it was actually much higher reduction. Finding only 200 a day in the first week of May, when we were testing more people and knowing that the real count in mid April was likely to be multiples of the 700/800 figure shows that a four week lockdown could have a very significant impact on numbers of infections.

A four week lockdown will not eradicate the virus. It will not bring the number of infected down to what we had in June. But it will give us some breathing space to celebrate Christmas. People will celebrate Christmas with family anyway, restrictions or no restrictions, so wouldn't it be better if we got daily infections down to approximately 200 a day at the start of December? Infections WILL increase over the Christmas period and it is likely that restrictions will have to be reimposed some time in mid-January.

Skylinehead · 15-10-2020 03:23PM

screamer wrote: »

Pity they didn’t speak up to sooner to say the behaviour of some people was unfair on others, and would have these type of knock on effects, but that’s Ireland for you, all mouth and no teeth.

What has that got to do with the article exactly?

BringBackMick · 15-10-2020 03:26PM

Am i right in thinking this headline saying rise in hospital patients is absolute fake news?

MOR316 · 15-10-2020 03:31PM

Must admit, I'm pretty downbeat over this. Not angry or upset, just downbeat.

I complied with all the rules and guidelines. Never once went against any of them. The only thing I like to do is go for a stroll along the sea at weekends and grab a few pints and some food. I can't do that anymore now and God only knows when I can do that again. It was something that gave you release, time to yourself.

It's why I get so wound up over the Government's and NPHET's treatment of the hospitality sector and the posts from people, who have no clue whatsoever. The bars and the restaurants never caused any of this. House parties, like it or not, have been going on since March and the dramatic rise in cases have only happened in the last month or so. Blaming it solely on that is idiocy!
Tourism, is pretty much non existent, so the whole narrative people spoofed on about of, "bringing the virus over with them," falls on it's arse.
The people who acted the ****, the younger people who have acted the ****, gathering on footpaths in large groups and shifting others when they knew they had the virus or the other person had the virus (That has happened) The GAA people who acted the **** after matches (And there has been a hell of a lot more than reported) The absolute horrendous nature with the way Schools have been treated, by the Government....

Absolutely shameless

bennyl10 · 15-10-2020 03:31PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

Am i right in thinking this headline saying rise in hospital patients is absolute fake news?

there hasnt been a notable rise today in hospital patients

a number of hospitals around the country are not at full ICU capacity, which is a deserved headline and worrisome

screamer · 15-10-2020 03:31PM

Skylinehead wrote: »

What has that got to do with the article exactly?

Yeah, if you can read my post I’m not going to the trouble of explaining it, it’s pretty self explanatory.

niallo27 · 15-10-2020 03:32PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

Any word on when NPHET are due to meet?

Let me guess, what they will say, we are very worried. We should go to level 5. Thanks for the alternative thinking there NPHET, I thought your remit was public health not just covid health.

seamus · 15-10-2020 03:35PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

Am i right in thinking this headline saying rise in hospital patients is absolute fake news?

"Fake" news would be too much, as it's technically correct.

However it's misleading, since it implies a drastic increase. When it reality it's up by 4 (less than 2%) in the last 24 hours and down by 2 in the last 48 hours.

It's ironic that RTE have recently gone on a big, "Trust us, we're not some randomer on Facebook, we're respected journalists" ad drive, but have spent the last week churning out clickbait fearmongering that the Daily Mail would be proud of.

MOR316 · 15-10-2020 03:35PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Let me guess, what they will say, we are very worried. We should go to level 5. Thanks for the alternative thinking there NPHET, I thought your remit was public health not just covid health.

Wish to God they'd stop answering every question with, "So..."

A bunch of Father Stones

mollser · 15-10-2020 03:36PM

Just checking the updated LEA map - Celbridge - seriously - it's gone from being one of the very highest /100k rates 4 weeks ago (>300??) to almost bang on the country average of 120 - only 26 cases in the last 2 weeks.

Notably, they didn't even join level 3 at the same time as Dublin, bars etc remained open! Obviously a concerted local effort there to get it under control.

To me this is outstanding news - but has anyone in the media, or HSE, or NPHET, anywhere picked up on this? No, wouldn't fit the doom narrative. But surely this should be held up as a shining example as to how quick some personal discipline can turn this thing around - time for positive and encouraging stories surely!

CIARAN_BOYLE · 15-10-2020 03:38PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

Am i right in thinking this headline saying rise in hospital patients is absolute fake news?

It depends on if you were celebrating the massive fall in hospital cases last night.

Most people with sense look in the mroning or evening and compare with the next morning or evenings figures.

Last night the figures were low and idiots were celebrating (including the head of the HSE). Now it's high this morning and they are crying.

Compare morning to morning and evening to evening.

In general discharges all happen during the day and admissions happen on a 24 hour basis.

seamus · 15-10-2020 03:41PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Last night the figures were low and idiots were celebrating (including the head of the HSE). Now it's high this morning and they are crying.

That guy is some gobsh1te.

Last night he's saying "this is great, numbers are down", and this afternoon he's saying, "This is really worrying, numbers are back up".

Maybe he just likes the sound of his own voice.

Blanco100 · 15-10-2020 03:41PM

mollser wrote: »

Just checking the updated LEA map - Celbridge - seriously - it's gone from being one of the very highest /100k rates 4 weeks ago (>300??) to almost bang on the country average of 120 - only 26 cases in the last 2 weeks.

Notably, they didn't even join level 3 at the same time as Dublin, bars etc remained open! Obviously a concerted local effort there to get it under control.

To me this is outstanding news - but has anyone in the media, or HSE, or NPHET, anywhere picked up on this? No, wouldn't fit the doom narrative. But surely this should be held up as a shining example as to how quick some personal discipline can turn this thing around - time for positive and encouraging stories surely!

Would telling Celbridge "you're doing brilliant lads" not lead to them taking the foot off the gas though?

Not alot more the meeja can do, its up to people to sort themselves out.

speckle · 15-10-2020 03:45PM

mollser wrote: »

Just checking the updated LEA map - Celbridge - seriously - it's gone from being one of the very highest /100k rates 4 weeks ago (>300??) to almost bang on the country average of 120 - only 26 cases in the last 2 weeks.

Notably, they didn't even join level 3 at the same time as Dublin, bars etc remained open! Obviously a concerted local effort there to get it under control.

To me this is outstanding news - but has anyone in the media, or HSE, or NPHET, anywhere picked up on this? No, wouldn't fit the doom narrative. But surely this should be held up as a shining example as to how quick some personal discipline can turn this thing around - time for positive and encouraging stories surely!

but guaranted they will say it was the increased restrictions last night. Just remember that they can't have it both ways. Everbody keep a close eye on your countys cases v hospitalizations v icu'd patients over the next while.

And again, last night I asked the question where are the 29 new Icu beds?

speckle · 15-10-2020 03:52PM

kerry population 147,707 since it all began 553 cases 6/7 deaths

seamusk84 · 15-10-2020 03:52PM

mollser wrote: »

Just checking the updated LEA map - Celbridge - seriously - it's gone from being one of the very highest /100k rates 4 weeks ago (>300??) to almost bang on the country average of 120 - only 26 cases in the last 2 weeks.

Notably, they didn't even join level 3 at the same time as Dublin, bars etc remained open! Obviously a concerted local effort there to get it under control.

To me this is outstanding news - but has anyone in the media, or HSE, or NPHET, anywhere picked up on this? No, wouldn't fit the doom narrative. But surely this should be held up as a shining example as to how quick some personal discipline can turn this thing around - time for positive and encouraging stories surely!

There was an outbreak in one of the schools that spilled into two of the other schools. The school where the outbreak occurred was closed temporarily while everything was got under control.

That is why we went from being a disaster zone to back to relative normality in fairly short order.

Oranage2 · 15-10-2020 03:52PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Over 900 cases today?

Probably more like 1100

mollser · 15-10-2020 03:53PM

Blanco100 wrote: »

Would telling Celbridge "you're doing brilliant lads" not lead to them taking the foot off the gas though?

Not alot more the meeja can do, its up to people to sort themselves out.

I'm not sure tbh. For sure what isn't working is the constant negativity and threats of restrictions from NPHET, it's really pi$$ing what would be very compliant people off - they're hitting the wrong targets with this approach.

Perhaps a bit of encouragement may be what's needed - at least throw it in with the fear mongering if you like to demonstrate that, with a bit of cop on and personal discipline, the basics do and will work!

seamus · 15-10-2020 03:54PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Over 900 cases today?

Touching 1,000 I'd say. Probably not over it.

Denny61 · 15-10-2020 03:54PM

Low 700 hundreds id say

15-10-2020 03:57PM

Blanco100 wrote: »

Would telling Celbridge "you're doing brilliant lads" not lead to them taking the foot off the gas though?

Not alot more the meeja can do, its up to people to sort themselves out.

So lets continue with perennial misery and fear? Not working too well is it

Stories showing how its possible to reduce transmission levels in your area in a relatively short period of time might actually be helpful too.

brookers · 15-10-2020 03:57PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Wish to God they'd stop answering every question with, "So..."

A bunch of Father Stones

Iv really noticed that has started to creep in with most people when asked a question. did cillian de gascun start that. where is he btw.

tiredblondie · 15-10-2020 03:58PM

brookers wrote: »

Iv really noticed that has started to creep in with most people when asked a question. did cillian de gascun start that. where is he btw.

I first noticed it when Ronan Glynn took the reigns....."so......"

Funsterdelux · 15-10-2020 03:59PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Over 900 cases today?

Oranage2 wrote: »

Probably more like 1100

seamus wrote: »

Touching 1,000 I'd say. Probably not over it.

Denny61 wrote: »

Low 700 hundreds id say

We're not meant to guess so I'll average yours

900 + 1100 + 999+ 700 /4 = 925

eagle eye · 15-10-2020 03:59PM

mollser wrote:

To me this is outstanding news - but has anyone in the media, or HSE, or NPHET, anywhere picked up on this? No, wouldn't fit the doom narrative. But surely this should be held up as a shining example as to how quick some personal discipline can turn this thing around - time for positive and encouraging stories surely!

Hasn't they cases in schools? I wonder were the schools were shut for a while?

Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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