Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

Paddygreen · 15-10-2020 10:04AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Gas stuff altogether. Loads of people waking up to find they are unemployed. Hospital staff having to deal with outbreaks. People not being able to see family friends.

You may laugh and it may seem “out there” alright but looking at the news it’s clear to see that the scary scenarios envisioned by our experts are very much a reality. Like long covid. Hopefully society doesn’t collapse, that’s why we have to follow the rules to the letter guys.

SusanC10 · 15-10-2020 10:05AM

JDD wrote: »

Is everyone getting the flu jab?

Booked my 3 year old in with the GP to get his ears checked today. The receptionist immediately said "is it for the flu jab?" before I told her why I was looking for an appointment. So it's a nasal spray, which is grand and I suppose he should get it anyway, but I was a little taken aback by the "oh he should definitely get it. Highly recommended for everyone over two this year" to which I blustered and said "uhhh yeah sure, we could do it at the same time".

Before I knew it I had us all booked in next week for our jabs.

I've never had the flu jab before. Never really seen the point, (though obviously I get it this year).

Is there lots of posters getting it this year that have never gotten it before?

We were going to get it but our GP doesn't have enough doses for their vulnerable patients so far.
Chemist told me that they are also prioritizing vulnerable people.
So, I can put our names down but we will be waiting.

circadian · 15-10-2020 10:06AM

bmcc10 wrote: »

They controlled the clusters and the country isn't run by inept clueless idiots who have a different idea every week.

There is no magic potion in these countries who have tackled it well, they just stuck to plan set out from the beginning and not made it up as they went along.

Even when cases began to spike a few months ago they stuck to the plan and even began adding fans to stadiums for sports while cases where rising.

Bars didn't shut, restaurants didn't shut, schools didn't shut, bar what was over a national holiday anyway and life is pretty much as normal.

We can't compare our response to East Asian countries who have dealt with outbreaks of similar diseases before. They have a largely compliant and aware population who know what needs to be done and value the collectivism behind it.

We have a decent amount of the population that falls into this category but I would say, just from anecdotal experience, I've seen a large minority who either;
don't understand what's being asked of them,
don't want to bother trying to understand,
don't think it applies to them, for whatever reason,
believe ****e posted on Facebook and other social media platforms,
are contrarian to the point where it is to their own detriment.

I've lived in East Asia and I know for a fact the vast, vast majority of the population will understand or seek clarity on what is being asked of them and they will follow through. This is a large part of their success. Obviously being an island/peninsula with full control of their borders helps but the sheer population density in those countries requires the general population to work together.

We don't have that. We have people packing into pubs to celebrate a sports victory causing multiple outbreaks which in turn left ads to school outbreaks, hospital outbreaks and just general community spread.

lawrencesummers · 15-10-2020 10:07AM

I’m having a big party in my house at the weekend and it’s still going ahead.

15-10-2020 10:09AM

Cluedo Monopoly · 15-10-2020 10:09AM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

I’m having a big party in my house at the weekend and it’s still going ahead.

s1ippy · 15-10-2020 10:10AM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

I’m having a big party in my house at the weekend and it’s still going ahead.

can i come too

Funsterdelux · 15-10-2020 10:10AM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

I’m having a big party in my house at the weekend and it’s still going ahead.

Party of one?

Paddygreen · 15-10-2020 10:11AM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

I’m having a big party in my house at the weekend and it’s still going ahead.

You are worse than an absolute disgrace. Worse than hitler. Let me simplify the maths for you... Fun + the old normal + Covid19 = Death

Boggles · 15-10-2020 10:11AM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

I’m having a big party in my house at the weekend and it’s still going ahead.

But in reality.

A Pot Noodle and a **** I imagine like every other weekend.

Gael23 · 15-10-2020 10:13AM

Hospital numbers have been holding steady between 230-240 all week

seamus · 15-10-2020 10:13AM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

I’m having a big party in my house at the weekend and it’s still going ahead.

We've talked about this before, lawrence. Watching The Little Mermaid in your boxer shorts and eating yesterday's Chinese doesn't count as a "big party".

Happydays2020 · 15-10-2020 10:14AM

seamus wrote: »

The media is on a major wind-up campaign at the moment. The initial suprise of the pandemic has gone away, so they have keep wheeling out gloomier and gloomier news to keep people' attention. Like that nonsense story about the virus surviving for 28 days. Or the headline news that a single vaccine trial had halted temporarily.

There could be 9 experts saying that things look great for a vaccine, but TV3 and RTE are only going to interview the one contrarian who says that things are looking iffy. Because that generates clicks and ad revenue.

The race for a vaccine is the largest single health initiative in human history.

There are currently 321 candidates in development, many with a target rollout of 2021-22. That is absolutely unheard of.

There are 9 candidates in Phase 3 (the final phase before rollout), and we know that the typical success rate for vaccines is 33%.

So the odd of none of these 9 candidates working, is very low. The odds of never getting a vaccine, close to zero.

Gerry Killeen is talking out his hole, but he's happy to continue talking out his hole so long as he can get on the airwaves.

Germany is the outlier here to be fair. They have this nailed, for oh os many reasons. The rest of Europe is a joke in comparison.

What's funny is all the anti-EU rhetoric in the last 3/4 years crying about Germany running the EU and handing the keys of the country to Angela Merkel.

Well, if we had done that, we'd be in a far better place right now.

I can safely say that you are Mr. Reasonable. You will call out the extreme positions on either side.

I completely agree with you on the media. I really think we need to revisit our funding of RTÉ - not sure this is a public service.

Boggles · 15-10-2020 10:14AM

Gael23 wrote: »

Hospital numbers have been holding steady between 230-240 all week

There was 221 in hospital on Monday.

lawrencesummers · 15-10-2020 10:14AM

JDD wrote: »

Is everyone getting the flu jab?

Booked my 3 year old in with the GP to get his ears checked today. The receptionist immediately said "is it for the flu jab?" before I told her why I was looking for an appointment. So it's a nasal spray, which is grand and I suppose he should get it anyway, but I was a little taken aback by the "oh he should definitely get it. Highly recommended for everyone over two this year" to which I blustered and said "uhhh yeah sure, we could do it at the same time".

Before I knew it I had us all booked in next week for our jabs.

I've never had the flu jab before. Never really seen the point, (though obviously I get it this year).

Is there lots of posters getting it this year that have never gotten it before?

Not getting it.
Never have.
I’m no anti-vax muppet, have all my shots and kids have all of theirs, but they won’t be getting the flu Jab. They are better off getting the flu and and fighting it than some having some man made concoction put up their nose.

People need to stop being scared of getting sick, it’s part of life, and at a young age it helps you establish an immune system and lets your body learn how to fight infection.

If you have a compromised immune system that’s another story, if your getting or have in the last while got chemo, or something serious then it might make sense, but healthy people should be fighting a mild illness like the flu themselves.

Hector Savage · 15-10-2020 10:16AM

At what stage will they just not be able to afford this and say ... "F*ck it, let's open it up" ...

pauldry · 15-10-2020 10:17AM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

I’m having a big party in my house at the weekend and it’s still going ahead.

In yer trousers?

Eod100 · 15-10-2020 10:18AM

https://twitter.com/_BenFinnegan/status/1316669055584141312

Funsterdelux · 15-10-2020 10:18AM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Not getting it.
Never have.
I’m no anti-vax muppet, have all my shots and kids have all of theirs, but they won’t be getting the flu Jab. They are better off getting the flu and and fighting it than some having some man made concoction put up their nose.

People need to stop being scared of getting sick, it’s part of life, and at a young age it helps you establish an immune system and lets your body learn how to fight infection.

If you have a compromised immune system that’s another story, if your getting or have in the last while got chemo, or something serious then it might make sense, but healthy people should be fighting a mild illness like the flu themselves.

A simple no would have sufficed

Gael23 · 15-10-2020 10:20AM

Eod100 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/_BenFinnegan/status/1316669055584141312

That means 20 admissions so far today

caveat emptor · 15-10-2020 10:22AM

Gael23 wrote: »

That means 20 admissions so far today

Cue usual discussion about “but they got it in hospital therefore it’s not a problem”

Tell that to a nurse or doctor and they’d be less than kind.

Huge pain in the hole having to manage a disease as infective as this in a clinical setting.

Boggles · 15-10-2020 10:23AM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Not getting it.
Never have.
I’m no anti-vax muppet, have all my shots and kids have all of theirs, but they won’t be getting the flu Jab. They are better off getting the flu and and fighting it than some having some man made concoction put up their nose.

People need to stop being scared of getting sick, it’s part of life, and at a young age it helps you establish an immune system and lets your body learn how to fight infection.

If you have a compromised immune system that’s another story, if your getting or have in the last while got chemo, or something serious then it might make sense, but healthy people should be fighting a mild illness like the flu themselves.

:pac:

eigrod · 15-10-2020 10:24AM

Gael23 wrote: »

That means 20 admissions so far today

Some, or all, may be people admitted in the last 24 hours whose test results came back this morning.

Paddygreen · 15-10-2020 10:24AM

Hector Savage wrote: »

At what stage will they just not be able to afford this and say ... "F*ck it, let's open it up" ...

The lenders are throwing loads of hot off the press Mon€y at our leaders like it was confetti, so no time soon. What could possibly go wrong Hector? The card is still tappin so we are grand.

Widdensushi · 15-10-2020 10:24AM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Not getting it.
Never have.
I’m no anti-vax muppet, have all my shots and kids have all of theirs, but they won’t be getting the flu Jab. They are better off getting the flu and and fighting it than some having some man made concoction put up their nose.

People need to stop being scared of getting sick, it’s part of life, and at a young age it helps you establish an immune system and lets your body learn how to fight infection.

If you have a compromised immune system that’s another story, if your getting or have in the last while got chemo, or something serious then it might make sense, but healthy people should be fighting a mild illness like the flu themselves.

This, I considered getting my kids the vaccine for the sake of others that they might come in contact with and then realised that anyone vulnurable would surely be getting the vaccine so I would leave their immune systems fight it. I have not seen anything on it lately but a few months ago I remember reading that 20/30% of people had antibodies to fight covid, possibly from a previous infection of a different virus. Is there anything up to date on that?

Bunny Colvin · 15-10-2020 10:24AM

JDD wrote: »

Is everyone getting the flu jab?

Booked my 3 year old in with the GP to get his ears checked today. The receptionist immediately said "is it for the flu jab?" before I told her why I was looking for an appointment. So it's a nasal spray, which is grand and I suppose he should get it anyway, but I was a little taken aback by the "oh he should definitely get it. Highly recommended for everyone over two this year" to which I blustered and said "uhhh yeah sure, we could do it at the same time".

Before I knew it I had us all booked in next week for our jabs.

I've never had the flu jab before. Never really seen the point, (though obviously I get it this year).

Is there lots of posters getting it this year that have never gotten it before?

Yeah I got in on Monday for the first time. I'm an asthamtic, by rights I should have been getting it before this.

lawrencesummers · 15-10-2020 10:25AM

Paddygreen wrote: »

You are worse than an absolute disgrace. Worse than hitler. Let me simplify the maths for you... Fun + the old normal + Covid19 = Death

A few points.
1.)I will be inviting everyone I know that is Jewish, therefore your Hitler comparison is invalid.

2.) Mathematics is conducted with numbers, it is impossible to perform addition with words.

3.) Names like Hitler should always be spelt with a capital letter. So Hitler not hitler.

4.) Your not invited.

is_that_so · 15-10-2020 10:26AM

Boggles wrote: »

Reids declarations on twitter have never tallied with the hub which just updated.

238 currently in hospital, 26 admission in the past 24 hours and 12 discharges.

So which is correct?

His tweet was about last night and numbers are updated twice a day. One would assume the CEO is in the loop or the HSE is a worse state than we ever imagined.

Ger Roe · 15-10-2020 10:27AM

JDD wrote: »

Is everyone getting the flu jab?

Booked my 3 year old in with the GP to get his ears checked today. The receptionist immediately said "is it for the flu jab?" before I told her why I was looking for an appointment. So it's a nasal spray, which is grand and I suppose he should get it anyway, but I was a little taken aback by the "oh he should definitely get it. Highly recommended for everyone over two this year" to which I blustered and said "uhhh yeah sure, we could do it at the same time".

Before I knew it I had us all booked in next week for our jabs.

I've never had the flu jab before. Never really seen the point, (though obviously I get it this year).

Is there lots of posters getting it this year that have never gotten it before?

I get it every year, since a health condition I developed, resulted in my doctor recommending it. Generally, if you are any way at increased risk from a respiratory disease, you should aim to protect yourself by getting the vaccine. It's not a guarantee, but it's the best guess help you can have.

This year everyone is being asked to take it, because of the expected demand on hospitals. Even if you don't die from the flu, you can be very sick and could take up a bed at a time when we have none to spare. Flu is a drain on hospital resources every year, and then there is also the risk of a vomit bug outbreak, and that's before you add in Covid. The more people we can keep out of hospitals this year, the better chance those that need hospital care, will have.

For this year, look at it like giving blood, to help out those who have greater needs than you.

In answer to the next obvious question, I have never suffered any side effects from the jab.

Funsterdelux · 15-10-2020 10:27AM

JDD wrote: »

Is everyone getting the flu jab?

Booked my 3 year old in with the GP to get his ears checked today. The receptionist immediately said "is it for the flu jab?" before I told her why I was looking for an appointment. So it's a nasal spray, which is grand and I suppose he should get it anyway, but I was a little taken aback by the "oh he should definitely get it. Highly recommended for everyone over two this year" to which I blustered and said "uhhh yeah sure, we could do it at the same time".

Before I knew it I had us all booked in next week for our jabs.

I've never had the flu jab before. Never really seen the point, (though obviously I get it this year).

Is there lots of posters getting it this year that have never gotten it before?

My daughters montessori handed these out yesterday

Will probably get the kids done. As theres a shortage of adult doses I wnt be putting our names down yet.

Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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