Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

Cluedo Monopoly · 15-10-2020 09:20AM

Kasey_Don wrote: »

What happens if there's no vaccine?

Share prices for some large pharmas will plummet.

Boggles · 15-10-2020 09:24AM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

My understanding is that parents and grandparents aren't relevant in this case.

As you know most children are not even relevant.

There were 350 odd children 4-15 test positive in the past week.

Unless the vast majority of them are home schooled, the figures don't add up.

The reality is a positive child could have spent the previous week riding a Pangolin around the class room projectile vomiting and the chances are no one in that small indoor space would be consider a close contact.

mohawk · 15-10-2020 09:27AM

Kasey_Don wrote: »

What happens if there's no vaccine?

I would be pretty confident that there will be effective anti-virals approved for treatment. We won’t need them in same quantity as a vaccine. Some of the trials I have seen are showing a less severe disease which would mean patients are out of the hospital faster. It would be great if they also have a prophylaxis effect which would keep frontline workers from getting sick.

traco · 15-10-2020 09:28AM

I don't believe the young kids are an issue with spread but the amount being tested if it increase significantly has the potential to swamp the already struggling test and trace system.

If that truly start then there could be the potential for schools to close.

OwenM · 15-10-2020 09:30AM

Kasey_Don wrote: »

What happens if there's no vaccine?

Gerry Killeen said it was toss of a coin, last night on TV3.

Funsterdelux · 15-10-2020 09:33AM

Boggles wrote: »

As you know most children are not even relevant.

There were 350 odd children 4-15 test positive in the past week.

Unless the vast majority of them are home schooled, the figures don't add up.

The reality is a positive child could have spent the previous week riding a Pangolin around the class room projectile vomiting and the chances are no one in that small indoor space would be consider a close contact.

You know well that horsePangolin play is not tolerated in schools anymore.

ednwireland · 15-10-2020 09:35AM

traco wrote: »

If they can't get some sort of business activity for Christmas they will loose all control and what little support they have. This is all just optics and timing now trying to manage the outcry from both sides.

a lot of businesses wont make it that far !

manniot2 · 15-10-2020 09:37AM

a guard friend tells me we are going into full lockdown within 2 weeks.

Trampas · 15-10-2020 09:38AM

People not following guidelines is causing a lot of cases but also the government have to take the blame also for wasting the months between end of lockdown 1 and this one.

Testing and tracing still not good enough. Beds in hospitals not increased but really decreased. It’s like they hope it just goes away. It’s not going away anytime soon.

Father Hernandez · 15-10-2020 09:39AM

manniot2 wrote: »

a guard friend tells me we are going into full lockdown within 2 weeks.

My goldfish told me the same this morning, they most know one another.

caveat emptor · 15-10-2020 09:39AM

Wow, it turns out there are selfish arseholes in every country. :rolleyes:
Have to admit I didn't see that coming. Good to know your neighbour will help you out.

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1316650175855812611?s=20

https://twitter.com/GordonDarroch/status/1316652510132801537?s=20

Doctors room ghost · 15-10-2020 09:41AM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Are we bringing the army in as well by any chance?

Any fcuker caught carrying more than one bag of pasta out of a shop is to be shot on sight.
Also insert WhatsApp picture of “top secret” undercover Garda cars here.

Funsterdelux · 15-10-2020 09:42AM

manniot2 wrote: »

a guard friend tells me we are going into full lockdown within 2 weeks.

Was it Whatsapp or facebuck DM?

Or a funny tiktok video?

Boggles · 15-10-2020 09:43AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Wow, it turns out there are selfish arseholes in every country. :rolleyes:
Have to admit I didn't see that coming. Good to know your neighbour will help you out.

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1316650175855812611?s=20

https://twitter.com/GordonDarroch/status/1316652510132801537?s=20

Germany is reserving 72 intensive care beds for Dutch patients in case the (proportionally much smaller) ICU capacity in the Netherlands runs out

Remember when we were being compared to Germany?

That was funny.

seamus · 15-10-2020 09:43AM

OwenM wrote: »

Gerry Killeen said it was toss of a coin, last night on TV3.

The media is on a major wind-up campaign at the moment. The initial suprise of the pandemic has gone away, so they have keep wheeling out gloomier and gloomier news to keep people' attention. Like that nonsense story about the virus surviving for 28 days. Or the headline news that a single vaccine trial had halted temporarily.

There could be 9 experts saying that things look great for a vaccine, but TV3 and RTE are only going to interview the one contrarian who says that things are looking iffy. Because that generates clicks and ad revenue.

The race for a vaccine is the largest single health initiative in human history.

There are currently 321 candidates in development, many with a target rollout of 2021-22. That is absolutely unheard of.

There are 9 candidates in Phase 3 (the final phase before rollout), and we know that the typical success rate for vaccines is 33%.

So the odd of none of these 9 candidates working, is very low. The odds of never getting a vaccine, close to zero.

Gerry Killeen is talking out his hole, but he's happy to continue talking out his hole so long as he can get on the airwaves.

Boggles wrote: »

Remember when we were being compared to Germany?

That was funny.

Germany is the outlier here to be fair. They have this nailed, for oh os many reasons. The rest of Europe is a joke in comparison.

What's funny is all the anti-EU rhetoric in the last 3/4 years crying about Germany running the EU and handing the keys of the country to Angela Merkel.

Well, if we had done that, we'd be in a far better place right now.

Basq · 15-10-2020 09:43AM

Apologies if it's been asked already but not hugely clear on impact..

.. due to get a lot of work done in house (new doors, frames etc installed) by a carpenter around November 9th.

Presume I'll have to push this off?

Boggles · 15-10-2020 09:47AM

is_that_so wrote: »

https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1316609003061903360

Too early to be a trend but sometimes we need it. The number of people in hospital with #COVID19 came down last night from 234 to 214 and those in ICU held at 30.

Reids declarations on twitter have never tallied with the hub which just updated.

238 currently in hospital, 26 admission in the past 24 hours and 12 discharges.

So which is correct?

seamus · 15-10-2020 09:48AM

Basq wrote: »

Apologies if it's been asked already but not hugely clear on impact..

.. due to get a lot of work done in house (new doors, frames etc installed) by a carpenter around November 9th.

Presume I'll have to push this off?

Nope. Only social visits are banned.

Apparently constrution has been classed as essential work, so that won't halt even at level 5. Whether it includes workmen in your house though, I don't know.

Boggles · 15-10-2020 09:49AM

seamus wrote: »

Germany is the outlier here to be fair. They have this nailed, for oh os many reasons. The rest of Europe is a joke in comparison.

Exactly that's why when our politicians and media were comparing Ireland to Germany it was funny.

They don't fumble and fúck from one crisis to the next.

They see a nail, they belt it with a hammer.

Funsterdelux · 15-10-2020 09:49AM

Basq wrote: »

Apologies if it's been asked already but not hugely clear on impact..

.. due to get a lot of work done in house (new doors, frames etc installed) by a carpenter around November 9th.

Presume I'll have to push this off?

Unless more restrictions are put in place between now and then its fine.

caveat emptor · 15-10-2020 09:54AM

Boggles wrote: »

Reids declarations on twitter have never tallied with the hub which just updated.

238 currently in hospital, 26 admission in the past 24 hours and 12 discharges.

So which is correct?

I find it reassuring when their is a drop in a given metric and someone one says "isn't that great". Remember when we were told to focus on hospitalisations as cases were increasing exponentially.

I find it much less reassuring when the metric invariably reverts to the trend two days later. No one says 'regression to mean'

These are part of the noise but the signal is clear.

Paddygreen · 15-10-2020 09:54AM

manniot2 wrote: »

a guard friend tells me we are going into full lockdown within 2 weeks.

Terrifying, truly terrifying. Chills me to the bone knowing that the movie 28 days later might soon seem like a documentary. Let’s just hope we have enough body bags and don’t turn to cannabilsm or something guys if things get really bad. I’m going to die a vegan, that’s just the way it is. The only glimmer of hope we have springs forth from the hard work of our leaders and experts who are working around the clock divising ways to keep us safe as we hold firm in our cocoon.

MerlinSouthDub · 15-10-2020 09:57AM

Boggles wrote: »

Reids declarations on twitter have never tallied with the hub which just updated.

238 currently in hospital, 26 admission in the past 24 hours and 12 discharges.

So which is correct?

I think he was basing it on last night's daily operations report. That showed the lower number, but I think there must have been errors in the report (e.g. Connolly hospital down to 2 Covid patients). You would think he would get an up to date figure before tweeting about it though.

Basq · 15-10-2020 09:57AM

seamus wrote: »

Nope. Only social visits are banned.

Apparently constrution has been classed as essential work, so that won't halt even at level 5. Whether it includes workmen in your house though, I don't know.

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Unless more restrictions are put in place between now and then its fine.

Thanks.

That's a relief!

caveat emptor · 15-10-2020 09:58AM

Paddygreen wrote: »

Terrifying, truly terrifying. Chills me to the bone knowing that the movie 28 days later might soon seem like a documentary. Let’s just hope we have enough body bags and don’t turn to cannabilsm or something guys if things get really bad. I’m going to die a vegan, that’s just the way it is. The only glimmer of hope we have springs forth from the hard work of our leaders and experts who are working around the clock divising ways to keep us safe as we hold firm in our cocoon.

Gas stuff altogether. Loads of people waking up to find they are unemployed. Hospital staff having to deal with outbreaks. People not being able to see family friends.

Icantthinkof1 · 15-10-2020 09:59AM

Boggles wrote: »

The reality is a positive child could have spent the previous week riding a Pangolin around the class room projectile vomiting and the chances are no one in that small indoor space would be consider a close contact.

Stranger things have happened!! I actually laughed out loud at that description thanks for that chuckle

JDD · 15-10-2020 10:01AM

Is everyone getting the flu jab?

Booked my 3 year old in with the GP to get his ears checked today. The receptionist immediately said "is it for the flu jab?" before I told her why I was looking for an appointment. So it's a nasal spray, which is grand and I suppose he should get it anyway, but I was a little taken aback by the "oh he should definitely get it. Highly recommended for everyone over two this year" to which I blustered and said "uhhh yeah sure, we could do it at the same time".

Before I knew it I had us all booked in next week for our jabs.

I've never had the flu jab before. Never really seen the point, (though obviously I get it this year).

Is there lots of posters getting it this year that have never gotten it before?

mloc123 · 15-10-2020 10:02AM

manniot2 wrote: »

a guard friend tells me we are going into full lockdown within 2 weeks.

My mate, said his mother knows a guy and his brother is in the Army... they have been told to arrive with two changes of uniform on Monday morning, status red I think he said it was... they will be out shooting people that leave their houses.

:pac:

Icantthinkof1 · 15-10-2020 10:02AM

Basq wrote: »

Apologies if it's been asked already but not hugely clear on impact..

.. due to get a lot of work done in house (new doors, frames etc installed) by a carpenter around November 9th.

Presume I'll have to push this off?

I probably would just in case s/he starts and not able to finish it because of restrictions you wouldn’t want to be left without doors in November’s cold weather- unless they’re internal doors you’re doing up

s1ippy · 15-10-2020 10:03AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Gas stuff altogether. Loads of people waking up to find they are unemployed. Hospital staff having to deal with outbreaks. People not being able to see family friends.

Yeah in fairness I'd say most are feeling pretty wretched about all this today. Wouldn't mind decking a few members of government, the pricks. I hope there's another golf gate where they visit their families and they all get crucified.

Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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