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Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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  • #1622
    boggerman1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭boggerman1


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    If wearing a mask outdoors becomes a thing that keeps the transmission down and keeps shops open is it not a good thing. If there was a choice between level 3 with masks outdoors and level 4 would you not be happy with level 3 with masks?

    Where the fcuk does the madness end.masks outdoors in the fresh air.for the love of god has all grip of sanity left this country.masks became mandatory and cases have went up and up.people need to wake up and smell the bull**** now.but sure hey we can borrow 50billion for nothing so carry on


  • #1623
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,139 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    You’re some a*s licker. Get off your high horse, comparing us to Japan, too right we aren’t Japan.

    What? Spelling out simple unpalatable truths is ass licking now?


  • #1624
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Per the HSE report tonight there are no available ICU beds in CUH or the Mercy in Cork, Mayo, Mullingar, South Tipp, St Vincent's, Tullamore, University Hospital Kerry.
    In those hospitals there are 7 COVID patients in ICU, combined.


  • #1625
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    What hospitals exactly did the 29 new ICU beds go into anybody? Can't seem to find them down the country? Are they all in Dublin?


  • #1626
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    boggerman1 wrote: »
    Where the fcuk does the madness end.masks outdoors in the fresh air.for the love of god has all grip of sanity left this country.masks became mandatory and cases have went up and up.people need to wake up and smell the bull**** now.but sure hey we can borrow 50billion for nothing so carry on

    Don’t mind ciaran. He’s a cautious fellow who loves all the drama Of this and feeds off of the scaremongering

    Himself and I are going to meet for a coffee in a few weeks based on our exchange on a previous thread a few days ago, he’ll be in his spacesuit. Telling me about how the apocalypse is still coming


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  • #1627
    Parabellum9
    Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭Parabellum9


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Have you a link to all your claims?

    There’s a graph on the Covid app you can go look at yourself, the upward slope of cases begins from Aug 29th - the time the schools reopened.
    House parties were going on all summer?

    Did you miss the reopening of society in July?

    You should ask yourself the 2nd question because it answers your 1st.
    But schools schools schools.

    Give us the evidence.

    Tightly packed classrooms and corridors, gangs of school kids walking around towns and areas without masks after school - more likely to be asymptomatic so any gathering among them is a breeding ground for it to thrive in. Then they carry it home and create another 4-5 spreaders for it.

    If you believe that schools are not in some part responsible for this explosion in rates you are extremely naive indeed.


  • #1628
    cefh17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 990 ✭✭✭cefh17


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    If wearing a mask outdoors becomes a thing that keeps the transmission down and keeps shops open is it not a good thing. If there was a choice between level 3 with masks outdoors and level 4 would you not be happy with level 3 with masks?

    You can't even get some idiots to wear the masks inside, not least believe that they work


  • #1629
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    Parabellum9 wrote: »
    There’s a graph on the Covid app you can go look at yourself, the upward slope of cases begins from Aug 29th - the time the schools reopened.



    You should ask yourself the 2nd question because it answers your 1st.



    Tightly packed classrooms and corridors, gangs of school kids walking around towns and areas without masks after school - more likely to be asymptomatic so any gathering among them is a breeding ground for it to thrive in. Then they carry it home and create another 4-5 spreaders for it.

    If you believe that schools are not in some part responsible for this explosion in rates you are extremely naive indeed.

    What’s the Covid app? Never heard of it....


  • #1630
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Good summary here

    Ireland's Covid restrictions compared: Level 3, Level 4 and Northern Ireland

    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/irelands-covid-restrictions-compared-level-3-level-4-and-northern-ireland-1020785.html


  • #1631
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,152 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Parabellum9 wrote: »
    There’s a graph on the Covid app you can go look at yourself, the upward slope of cases begins from Aug 29th - the time the schools reopened.



    You should ask yourself the 2nd question because it answers your 1st.



    Tightly packed classrooms and corridors, gangs of school kids walking around towns and areas without masks after school - more likely to be asymptomatic so any gathering among them is a breeding ground for it to thrive in. Then they carry it home and create another 4-5 spreaders for it.

    If you believe that schools are not in some part responsible for this explosion in rates you are extremely naive indeed.

    So no link to house parties going all summer.

    And noone has denied schools are contributing to the spread.

    Just like every other sector that has been reopended in the last 2 months.


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  • #1632
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    What? Spelling out simple unpalatable truths is ass licking now?

    Your government had 6 months to get a plan together and a tighter handle on things. They did sweet FA and didn’t introduce as much as a temperature scanner at dublin airport. A restaurant on Wexford street has one on entry FFS.

    Now because they’ve realized they’ve learned nothing from March, they send us all back into the pen from the field like cattle.

    But yes, it’s our fault for trying to live our lives.

    Keep playing that sweet music Mr.


  • #1633
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,454 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Daily operations update is out.

    Total in hospital down to 214 (from 234 this morning). 30 in ICU with sadly 1 death

    Connolly down from 12 yesterday to 1 today, hopefully that's not a typo.
    If not, Dublin hospitals patients are the lowest they have been in 3 weeks. (55 on the 23th September)


  • #1634
    Always_Running
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    majcos wrote: »
    HSE operations report 14/10
    214 confirmed hospitalised cases, down from 230 last night
    30 in ICU, 21 ventilated.
    One death in ICU last 24 hours.

    And Tuesday morning it was 240 in hospital


  • #1635
    Inquitus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,778 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    Your government had 6 months to get a plan together and a tighter handle on things. They did sweet FA and didn’t introduce as much as a temperature scanner at dublin airport. A restaurant on Wexford street has one on entry FFS.

    Now because they’ve realized they’ve learned nothing from March, they send us all back into the pen from the field like cattle.

    But yes, it’s our fault for trying to live our lives.

    Keep playing that sweet music Mr.

    Temperature scanning is next to useless.


  • #1636
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Connolly down from 12 yesterday to 1 today, hopefully that's not a typo.
    If not, Dublin hospitals patients are the lowest they have been in 3 weeks. (55 on the 23th September)

    I think the Connolly number must be wrong, well spotted.


  • #1637
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,139 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    Your government had 6 months to get a plan together and a tighter handle on things. They did sweet FA and didn’t introduce as much as a temperature scanner at dublin airport. A restaurant on Wexford street has one on entry FFS.

    Now because they’ve realized they’ve learned nothing from March, they send us all back into the pen from the field like cattle.

    But yes, it’s our fault for trying to live our lives.

    Keep playing that sweet music Mr.

    Temperature scanners are ineffective. Anyone using one either doesn't understand this at best or is trying to give the appearance of doing something, for the sake of doing something.

    Yes, it's societies fault for ignoring an uncomfortable reality, for trying to go on as normal when normal wasn't advisable.


  • #1638
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    Inquitus wrote: »
    Temperature scanning is next to useless.

    Something in place maybe? Instead of just waving everyone through. And yes I’ve been through the airport in the last 4-5 weeks


  • #1639
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,412 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Per the HSE report tonight there are no available ICU beds in CUH or the Mercy in Cork, Mayo, Mullingar, South Tipp, St Vincent's, Tullamore, University Hospital Kerry.
    In those hospitals there are 7 COVID patients in ICU, combined.

    I think the cities need more Covid make shift hospitals or step down recovery hospitals
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #1640
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    Temperature scanners are ineffective. Anyone using one either doesn't understand this at best or is trying to give the appearance of doing something, for the sake of doing something.

    Yes, it's societies fault for ignoring an uncomfortable reality, for trying to go on as normal when normal wasn't advisable.

    Again, you’re a government willy sucker siding with them, sitting on your pedestal. Mr know it all with your hindsight glasses on. Give it a break


    Mod

    Thread banned


  • #1641
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Connolly down from 12 yesterday to 1 today, hopefully that's not a typo.
    If not, Dublin hospitals patients are the lowest they have been in 3 weeks. (55 on the 23th September)
    It’s possible that number has dropped by discharges home helped by protocols that have been put in place to manage more people at home. Those who were admitted for monitoring in the earlier stages of dealing with this are stratified according to risk and severity of illness and some who would have been kept in hospital are now sent home with oxygen monitors etc. which are feeding back data online to hospital physicians and specialist nurses which is combined with telephone contact with patients.


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  • #1642
    khalessi
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    Interesting graphic illustrating covid in schools

    https://twitter.com/Gianluc21703420/status/1316487752565829637


  • #1643
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,723 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    khalessi wrote:
    Interesting graphic illustrating covid in schools

    That's frightening and we had the thick, stupid ministet for education saying today that schools are going great.


  • #1644
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Always_Running wrote: »
    And Tuesday morning it was 240 in hospital
    Numbers admitted highest in morning data as patients seen by more junior doctors in evenings and overnight are discharged after consultant review of all overnight admissions in morning. Lab processing also slower in evenings and nighttime as less rostered staff in labs after hours but then catches up in morning and people sent home as results come in to complete risk stratification. Radiology reporting slower and usually limited to emergencies at night as well.

    Comparing the same time point in a 24 hour period gives a better idea of true trend rather than fluctuations due to operational reasons. Still good to see some drop rather than a sustained increase although takes a few days to see real trends.


  • #1645
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Almost 1 in every 1000 czechs confirmed infected today alone..unbelievably high cases there. Czech Rep and NI are just off the charts high numbers


  • #1646
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Almost 1 in every 1000 czechs confirmed infected today alone

    Wow, mind blowing.


  • #1647
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,229 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Almost 1 in every 1000 czechs confirmed infected today alone..unbelievably high cases there. Czech Rep and NI are just off the charts high numbers

    That's like us having 5,000 cases give or take. That is crazy.


  • #1648
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,587 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    khalessi wrote: »
    Interesting graphic illustrating covid in schools

    https://twitter.com/Gianluc21703420/status/1316487752565829637

    How can there be schools with only one or two cases, if one has it surely the class have to catch it


  • #1649
    Martina1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    majcos wrote: »
    Numbers admitted highest in morning data as patients seen by more junior doctors in evenings and overnight are discharged after consultant review of all overnight admissions in morning. Lab processing also slower in evenings and nighttime as less rostered staff in labs after hours but then catches up in morning and people sent home as results come in to complete risk stratification. Radiology reporting slower and usually limited to emergencies at night as well.
    Just to point out, laboratory testing isn't slower at night. Turnaround times for requests are fulfilled the same as during the day. The repertoire of tests available may be limited as you cant offer a full service at night with only 1 person in each department. Tests available at night vary by hospital.
    Same goes for Radiography. Same service but limited staff on call.


  • #1650
    Rambling Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭Rambling Man


    Widdensushi wrote: »
    How can there be schools with only one or two cases, if one has it surely the class have to catch it

    Maybe transmission in children isn’t as aggressive as amongst adults. Just putting that out there.


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  • #1651
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Martina1991 wrote: »
    Just to point out, laboratory testing isn't slower at night. Turnaround times for requests are fulfilled the same as during the day. The repertoire of tests available may be limited as you cant offer a full service at night with only 1 person in each department. Tests available at night vary by hospital.
    Same goes for Radiography. Same service but limited staff on call.
    The actual processing time of each test would not be slower I presume but the turnaround time is different in many hospitals at night and at weekends. There is not as much a time difference in bigger hospitals but still slower and even more so outside the tertiary hospitals. As you said lab is limited to certain tests at night so full panel of bloods used in Covid assessment doesn’t come back during after hours period.

    Limited radiology service at night and only basic imaging and very limited emergency CT scanning done at nights and weekends. Very very little radiology reported after hours even in tertiary hospitals except scans like CT brains for stroke and abdominal CTs for aneurysms etc.


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