PlayStation 5 - Now with FAQ in OP.

loughrey · 11-10-2020 03:29PM

I'm thinking of cancelling my Smyths preorder as I really want to get an OLED TV this Black Friday (not for the PS5 ironically) and can't afford both at the same time. But I've decided I'll get more happiness out of the OLED tv than the PS5 so that made my mind up. But it's hard to part with my preorder so I'm still deciding what I can do.

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billybonkers · 11-10-2020 04:07PM

loughrey wrote: »

I'm thinking of cancelling my Smyths preorder as I really want to get an OLED TV this Black Friday (not for the PS5 ironically) and can't afford both at the same time. But I've decided I'll get more happiness out of the OLED tv than the PS5 so that made my mind up. But it's hard to part with my preorder so I'm still deciding what I can do. …

Oled on finance from harvey norman

Creamy Goodness · 11-10-2020 04:44PM

billybonkers wrote: »

Oled on finance from harvey norman

That is a bonkers idea. Using finance for a depreciating asset is almost always a terrible idea.

rob808 · 11-10-2020 05:29PM

loughrey wrote: »

I'm thinking of cancelling my Smyths preorder as I really want to get an OLED TV this Black Friday (not for the PS5 ironically) and can't afford both at the same time. But I've decided I'll get more happiness out of the OLED tv than the PS5 so that made my mind up. But it's hard to part with my preorder so I'm still deciding what I can do. …

I would wait till January the newer models will be out and they'll discount the older 2020 models to make room for the 2021 model OLED tv's.

the whole year inn · 11-10-2020 06:02PM

loughrey wrote: »

I'm thinking of cancelling my Smyths preorder as I really want to get an OLED TV this Black Friday (not for the PS5 ironically) and can't afford both at the same time. But I've decided I'll get more happiness out of the OLED tv than the PS5 so that made my mind up. But it's hard to part with my preorder so I'm still deciding what I can do. …

If you do cancel can I take the order by any chance?

lertsnim · 11-10-2020 06:21PM

the whole year inn wrote: »

If you do cancel can I take the order by any chance?

Can you transfer a Smyths preorder?

Kremin · 11-10-2020 06:31PM

lertsnim wrote: »

Can you transfer a Smyths preorder?

Not that I'm aware of but could he wrong. Only way would be to change address and payment method to the other person's unless you're comfortable giving them the account outright. Both have their obvious risks

FedoraTheAura · 11-10-2020 06:47PM

rob808 wrote: »

I would wait till January the newer models will be out and they'll discount the older 2020 models to make room for the 2021 model OLED tv's.

Exactly!

Around now is when you see the prices of stuff (especially TVs) go up in price for about a month before Black Friday etc. Then they drop back down for the sales and try to pretend like they’re heavily discounted. Case in point Curry’s website where you can actually see what sale items were originally priced at for just a few weeks/month before.

loughrey · 11-10-2020 06:48PM

rob808 wrote: »

I would wait till January the newer models will be out and they'll discount the older 2020 models to make room for the 2021 model OLED tv's.

There won't be any new models released until the end of next year. LG only released their BX model last month and the CX usually releases in May or June as far as I'm aware. They'll only announce the 2021 models at CES in the new year but they won't be available to buy until mid-2021 for tut higher end models and late 2021 for the BX so for all intents and purposes the X series is basically the only ones we'll see for almost another year, especially for the BX which is what I'm going for as that is released in Europe in September every year as their last OLED release of the year.

DrSpongeBobz · 11-10-2020 06:51PM

loughrey wrote: »

I'm thinking of cancelling my Smyths preorder as I really want to get an OLED TV this Black Friday (not for the PS5 ironically) and can't afford both at the same time. But I've decided I'll get more happiness out of the OLED tv than the PS5 so that made my mind up. But it's hard to part with my preorder so I'm still deciding what I can do. …

You could prob sell an unopened PS5 at a profit.

loughrey · 11-10-2020 06:56PM

FedoraTheAura wrote: »

Exactly!

Around now is when you see the prices of stuff (especially TVs) go up in price for about a month before Black Friday etc. Then they drop back down for the sales and try to pretend like they’re heavily discounted. Case in point Curry’s website where you can actually see what sale items were originally priced at for just a few weeks/month before.

The 55 inch BX released last month for 1299 pounds last month but will drop to at least 999 pounds for Black Friday. Based on last year, that does be the lowest price the B series will until the end of the following year, with maybe a 50 pound drop below that here or there so Black Friday is really the bottom price for OLEDs as they usually go back up in price before dropping to Black Friday prices on and off before the new models drop. So it's the best time to plunge for one.

My logic is the PS5 won't get any more expensive and asher Christmas games like Cold War should see a drop. I know I got Modern Warfare in January in Smyths for 30 euros, half the price it was in November, so I'd benefit from these price drops in physical games by waiting too.

loughrey · 11-10-2020 06:57PM

the whole year inn wrote: »

If you do cancel can I take the order by any chance?

I'd love to be able, I'm not sure if that's possible.

Zero-Cool · 11-10-2020 06:57PM

DrSpongeBobz wrote: »

You could prob sell an unopened PS5 at a profit.

Or they could be awesome and sell it someone here for cost price.

.G. · 11-10-2020 07:04PM

Personally I'd keep the pre order. Arrange with some good desperate soul here to meet by Smyths on release day. Pick up the PS5, hand it to the good soul and get the 499 cash from them in return. Email on the receipt when Smyths charge my card.

Guy:Incognito · 11-10-2020 07:48PM

ozmo wrote: »

Yup - but will the added NvME run at the same fast speed as internal drive? Certainly not the standard consumer ones you can currently buy - they are going to have to be special super high speed 'pro' ones...

Its going to be much quicker than an external usb hard drive anyway.

Gonzo · 11-10-2020 07:52PM

just after replacing my 8 year old tv with a Sony XH90 55 inch tv in time for my PS5. Connected my base PS4 to it and the picture quality and HDR is amazing. I've never seen HDR before and to see the beauty of the lighting, weather affects and bloom in Far Cry 5 is a sight to behold. Watched a few movies in 4k on Disney+ and the quality is immense, I've never seen anything higher than 1080p up to now. I definitely recommend anyone buying a new tv for their PS5 to get a tv from Sony's XH90 range as it will support hdmi 2.1, 120hz and variable refresh rates.

Nicetrustedcup · 11-10-2020 08:16PM

.G. wrote: »

Personally I'd keep the pre order. Arrange with some good desperate soul here to meet by Smyths on release day. Pick up the PS5, hand it to the good soul and get the 499 cash from them in return. Email on the receipt when Smyths charge my card.

Offer you 300 as nobody wonts a ps5 and will be next to impossible to sell

Classic adverts/Facebook tire kicker

You will have no issues selling the ps5 to be fair, I had a extra PS4 when they came out and I could have sold 10 of them in the hour I had the PS4 in my hands.

.G. · 11-10-2020 08:26PM

Nicetrustedcup wrote: »

Offer you 300 as nobody wonts a ps5 and will be next to impossible to sell

Classic adverts/Facebook tire kicker

You will have no issues selling the ps5 to be fair, I had a extra PS4 when they came out and I could have sold 10 of them in the hour I had the PS4 in my hands.

Its not me with the keep/sell dilemma, Loughrey has that problem! I merely muse as to how I'd approach it if I decided I didn't want the pre order but couldn't transfer it:)

I had a spare copy of GTA V on release back in the day and could have got rid 100 times over.

heebusjeebus · 11-10-2020 08:40PM

Gonzo wrote: »

just after replacing my 8 year old tv with a Sony XH90 55 inch tv in time for my PS5. Connected my base PS4 to it and the picture quality and HDR is amazing. I've never seen HDR before and to see the beauty of the lighting, weather affects and bloom in Far Cry 5 is a sight to behold. Watched a few movies in 4k on Disney+ and the quality is immense, I've never seen anything higher than 1080p up to now. I definitely recommend anyone buying a new tv for their PS5 to get a tv from Sony's XH90 range as it will support hdmi 2.1, 120hz and variable refresh rates.

I got the 65 inch XH90 and it's amazing.
Really want to try something with 120fps now.

Gonzo · 11-10-2020 08:49PM

heebusjeebus wrote: »

I got the 65 inch XH90 and it's amazing.
Really want to try something with 120fps now.

I almost went with the LG Nanoseries but glad I didn't, there were so many reports/comments of poor contrast, very greyed out blacks and average hdr, paid an extra 200 euros for the XH90 and that tv really delivers. Colours are so good and those blacks are rich and inky and the HDR is seriously impressive.

As for the hdmi 2.1, 120fps and VRR we have to wait for the firmware update which will hopefully kick in on the launch day of the PS5.

Potential-Monke · 11-10-2020 08:55PM

I think people should leave Loughrey do what he wants to do and not put him under any pressure to offload his preorder to someone else. If he wants to cancel it, work away, don't be swayed by people on here looking for your preorder. Too much hassle imo. But that's just me!

DrSpongeBobz · 11-10-2020 08:59PM

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I think people should leave Loughrey do what he wants to do and not put him under any pressure to offload his preorder to someone else. If he wants to cancel it, work away, don't be swayed by people on here looking for your preorder. Too much hassle imo. But that's just me!

Prob has a few private messages already lol.

GhostyMcGhost · 11-10-2020 09:22PM

FedoraTheAura wrote: »

Exactly!

Around now is when you see the prices of stuff (especially TVs) go up in price for about a month before Black Friday etc. Then they drop back down for the sales and try to pretend like they’re heavily discounted. Case in point Curry’s website where you can actually see what sale items were originally priced at for just a few weeks/month before.

Best time to get a new TV, IMO is during a World Cup or European championship.... euro 2020 and the olympics will probably go ahead fine way or another next year so around then there’s usually good sales on

heebusjeebus · 11-10-2020 09:40PM

Gonzo wrote: »

I almost went with the LG Nanoseries but glad I didn't, there were so many reports/comments of poor contrast, very greyed out blacks and average hdr, paid an extra 200 euros for the XH90 and that tv really delivers. Colours are so good and those blacks are rich and inky and the HDR is seriously impressive.

As for the hdmi 2.1, 120fps and VRR we have to wait for the firmware update which will hopefully kick in on the launch day of the PS5.

I read that it's the Android update we need for the hdmi 2.1 support. Android 11 has support for it apparently. Hopefully it comes in the next few weeks.

loughrey · 12-10-2020 09:01AM

RGARDINR wrote: »

That's if deliveries make it now to stores or warehouses for launch day. It's cutting it fine if 4 wks lockdown as they do love to ad on an extra wk or 2 over here. Might mean xbox launch is messed up even more over here

Why would the lockdown have anything to do with warehouse deliveries to stores? Even Level 5 lockdown imposes zero restructions on warehouses stocking stores or courier deliveries to homes as they never did for past restrictsions. The lockdown will have absolutely no impact on stores stocking products. Lockdowns are to do with the public's movement, not businesses stocking their products. Things were a little slow, such as Amazon deliveries, not because of the locdowns, but because staff were falling ill so there was staff shortages for delivery companies. The only issue is for people who are doing store collections, if there is a level 5 but I'm sure Smyths have contingencies, such as switching all orders to home delivery

loughrey · 12-10-2020 09:05AM

Gonzo wrote: »

I almost went with the LG Nanoseries but glad I didn't, there were so many reports/comments of poor contrast, very greyed out blacks and average hdr, paid an extra 200 euros for the XH90 and that tv really delivers. Colours are so good and those blacks are rich and inky and the HDR is seriously impressive.

As for the hdmi 2.1, 120fps and VRR we have to wait for the firmware update which will hopefully kick in on the launch day of the PS5.

I have the highest end Nanocell and that's actually the reason why I'm getting an OLED TV. I didn't notice the limitations of LCD with my old Philips as that didn't have HDR support, but with HDR being the new standard LCD TVS like the Nanocell and cheaper TVs really show their issues, especially with the crazy backlight bleed that occcurs with HDR content, even in bright scenes, but it's unwatchable in dark scenes, which you notice a lot with Star Wars movies where it's mostly dark scenes. LG Nanocells are probably the worst high priced tvs on the market for HDR content, this IPS panels are absolutely terrible. I'll be relegating my Nanocell to a game TV where I don't have to worry about HUD burn-in from long game sessions. I'd never buy an LCD panel again and that's why the Samsung QLED is not even an option for me as I want to move away from that technology completely for the best contrast and black levels. the one thing I did take away from the Nanocell I have is that LG have the best remote and interface, that alone makes it hard to choose a Sony or Panasonic OLED as I that great interface and magic remote is a major selling point for me, couldn't go back to a regular remote without a pointer again.

Berty · 12-10-2020 09:27AM

loughrey wrote: »

Why would the lockdown have anything to do with warehouse deliveries to stores? Even Level 5 lockdown imposes zero restructions on warehouses stocking stores or courier deliveries to homes as they never did for past restrictsions. The lockdown will have absolutely no impact on stores stocking products. Lockdowns are to do with the public's movement, not businesses stocking their products. Things were a little slow, such as Amazon deliveries, not because of the locdowns, but because staff were falling ill so there was staff shortages for delivery companies. The only issue is for people who are doing store collections, if there is a level 5 but I'm sure Smyths have contingencies, such as switching all orders to home delivery

People panic, have and will panic about Christmas. It happened in the UK Northern areas over the weekend, they panic bought Christmas presents and queued for ages in the shopping centres to get into places.

Happened here with Smyths the day the increased restrictions were discussed. You could argue same thing happens with herd mentality "I mean if everybody is buying toilet roll then I'd better buy some" and a domino effect.

People saw queues in Smyths and joined themselves. I'll leave my click n collectc PS5 as it is until told otherwise. I'll shop online like I do every year for nearly all other stuff.

heebusjeebus · 12-10-2020 09:48AM

loughrey wrote: »

.. the one thing I did take away from the Nanocell I have is that LG have the best remote and interface, that alone makes it hard to choose a Sony or Panasonic OLED as I that great interface and magic remote is a major selling point for me, couldn't go back to a regular remote without a pointer again.

I'm not a fan of the LG interface. One of the main selling points for me on this year's Sony TV's is the native Android OS. It's crazy fast and I was able to retire my Nvidia Shield and tidy up the mess of wires behind my TV cabinet.

Xenji · 12-10-2020 10:06AM

I ended up getting a Samsung 65" QE65Q80T through a friend for a good deal but I am very impressed with it over my old LG, it does 120 FPS out of the box and image lag is as low as 8.7ms so I am looking forward to seeing how the PS5 will look on it.

Retr0gamer · 12-10-2020 10:25AM

Next TV I get will have to be OLED. Just have not been impressed with LCD since we moved from CRT to LCD, it was a like a step backwards in quality. The manufacturers can shout all they want about made up contrast values and such, it doesn't matter. I've not used a LCD tv where the black levels weren't awful and made dark scenes unwatchable and the colours weren't washed out. It's a pity plasma was so expensive and had so many issues with the size of panels and burn in as it's a much better better tech. OLED is the first time I've seen a flat panel trump CRT in visuals.

I must look into QLED to see if it's any better or a rival to OLED. I remember them being a big deal during my time in research and they were quite promising. I do remember the quantum dots being insanely toxic and bad for the environment! But hey, better viuals!

PlayStation 5 - Now with FAQ in OP.

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