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PlayStation 5 - Now with FAQ in OP.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭SMC92Ian


    rob808 wrote: »
    it really down to the idiots that do anti mask demonstration in Dublin city centre were probably going into level 5.

    bUt ThE mAsKs DonE hElP oR dO aNyThiNg :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭rob808


    SMC92Ian wrote: »
    bUt ThE mAsKs DonE hElP oR dO aNyThiNg :rolleyes:
    say who? anti mask demonstrator :).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,412 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    Absolutely essential!

    Level 5 will see only essential retail open so smyths would have to close so I'd hope collection would auto change to delivery but if we go into full lockdown again, surely deliveries would take a hit again.

    So if the country could cop on for the next 4 weeks, no parties, wear your mask, wash your hands etc, we might be alright for PS5 launch.

    Well Smyths will still receive their stock from Sony no matter what and will want to offload it and pull whatever profit they're due from their units for sale. Holding on to it would be a nightmare as well.

    You'd assume deliveries would be the very worst case scenario.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Well Smyths will still receive their stock from Sony no matter what and will want to offload it and pull whatever profit they're due from their units for sale. Holding on to it would be a nightmare as well.

    You'd assume deliveries would be the very worst case scenario.
    That's if deliveries make it now to stores or warehouses for launch day. It's cutting it fine if 4 wks lockdown as they do love to ad on an extra wk or 2 over here. Might mean xbox launch is messed up even more over here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    RGARDINR wrote: »
    That's if deliveries make it now to stores or warehouses for launch day. It's cutting it fine if 4 wks lockdown as they do love to ad on an extra wk or 2 over here. Might mean xbox launch is messed up even more over here

    I think a lot of business will be doing deliveries. Any business with any common sense would have contingencies to move largely online, as additional locks downs were always possible.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,970 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    They charge for home delivery, I can't see how they can amend in store pickup orders unless thet waive the delivery fee. I blame that fecker Tony Holohan only back a day and he decides to stick us into Level 5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,412 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    RGARDINR wrote: »
    That's if deliveries make it now to stores or warehouses for launch day. It's cutting it fine if 4 wks lockdown as they do love to ad on an extra wk or 2 over here. Might mean xbox launch is messed up even more over here

    Of course they will. Supplies are largely unaffected, they will arrive.
    They charge for home delivery, I can't see how they can amend in store pickup orders unless thet waive the delivery fee. I blame that fecker Tony Holohan only back a day and he decides to stick us into Level 5

    The issue will more so be address collection. The delivery fee was €1.99 so it's not an enormous fee to waive, or at worst, advise all orders that it will cost €1.99 extra to deliver which they are free to cancel.

    The issue will be requesting and collating addresses. Which isn't too hard if they plan it well.

    Remember, it's in Smyths interests to get these consoles out there, they're not going to put their hands up and say "oh well".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    They charge for home delivery, I can't see how they can amend in store pickup orders unless thet waive the delivery fee. I blame that fecker Tony Holohan only back a day and he decides to stick us into Level 5

    I am sure a system can be put in place to add a delivery charge as needed. It would be the best way to do things.

    Personally, I taught something like this might happen, so I chose home delivery, as I am working from home in anyways and not really leaving the house a whole lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭FedoraTheAura


    wes wrote: »
    I think a lot of business will be doing deliveries. Any business with any common sense would have contingencies to move largely online, as additional locks downs were always possible.

    This.

    Companies, both suppliers and shops have known for 6+ months that normal in-store shopping experience would quite possibly not be able to be carried out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Of course they will. Supplies are largely unaffected, they will arrive.



    The issue will more so be address collection. The delivery fee was €1.99 so it's not an enormous fee to waive, or at worst, advise all orders that it will cost €1.99 extra to deliver which they are free to cancel.

    The issue will be requesting and collating addresses. Which isn't too hard if they plan it well.

    Remember, it's in Smyths interests to get these consoles out there, they're not going to put their hands up and say "oh well".
    I just hope smyths and gamestop have cop on to have a plan in place for this anyhow as they had months to have this in place. More gamestop have to ring people and let them know do they actually have a console or not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,471 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    rob808 wrote: »
    it really down to the idiots that do anti mask demonstration in Dublin city centre were probably going into level 5.

    I didn't think it needed to be said, but my post was a joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,412 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Either way, it's looking like Dublin will head to Level 4 rather than 5 so will be grand come November.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Either way, it's looking like Dublin will head to Level 4 rather than 5 so will be grand come November.

    If level 4 doesn't do the job, we may end up level 5 in November......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭quokula


    The way things our moving the best chance not to be in level 5 in November, is to go to level 5 now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,412 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Either way. I'm not worried at all about my click and collect order.

    It'll be grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Kremin


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    Absolutely essential!

    Level 5 will see only essential retail open so smyths would have to close so I'd hope collection would auto change to delivery but if we go into full lockdown again, surely deliveries would take a hit again.

    So if the country could cop on for the next 4 weeks, no parties, wear your mask, wash your hands etc, we might be alright for PS5 launch.
    I have full confidence smyths can swing that they're essential coming up to Christmas! The government can't forget anti-lockdown protests etc if they close Smyth's they'll have parents marching for their heads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    Kremin wrote: »
    I have full confidence smyths can swing that they're essential coming up to Christmas! The government can't forget anti-lockdown protests etc if they close Smyth's they'll have parents marching for their heads

    No way they will be opening as "essential" if we are in L4/5. They have online capability and govt won't allow it.

    Gamestop will mess this up no doubt

    Smyths will get the console to you if they cannot open the shops


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭Markitron


    No way they will be opening as "essential" if we are in L4/5. They have online capability and govt won't allow it.

    Gamestop will mess this up no doubt

    Smyths will get the console to you if they cannot open the shops

    I really don't want to be sitting around waiting for it to arrive on release day, but I am confident in Smyths to get it sorted.

    Gamestop will be a cluster****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭LeeroyJ.


    I honestly can't seem them closing down retail currently, closing down the most important part of the year (Christmas Shopping) and forcing people on to Amazon for it would kill Irish retailers and the economy, I just can't see the government want to deal with the economic fallout of that. That being said, if things continue to get worse they probably will close it down but not as things are currently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,425 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Yeah, I mean Smyths have their numbers, their orders and details. Worst case scenario (I'd say) is that a week beforehand or so they'll say "We have to deliver. It'll be an extra XXXX quid. If you wish to cancel your order please let us know ASAP" type thing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    LeeroyJ. wrote: »
    I honestly can't seem them closing down retail currently, closing down the most important part of the year (Christmas Shopping) and forcing people on to Amazon for it would kill Irish retailers and the economy, I just can't see the government want to deal with the economic fallout of that. That being said, if things continue to get worse they probably will close it down but not as things are currently.

    I agree with you, but they'll make a mockery of themselves if they don't. L4 and 5 both state non essential retail to close.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,425 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    I say getting my Playstation is an essential service. (I joke but Gamestop did demand this in the US. :) )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    I agree with you, but they'll make a mockery of themselves if they don't. L4 and 5 both state non essential retail to close.

    not to get all politics here....but....

    NPHET are making decisions based purely on public health trends, and they are worrying. Last thing they want to do is make it a ****e Christmas for everyone. but if we do this now we may have a chance to see our families over that point.

    NPHET are only advising and it'll be ultimately the govt. making the final call.

    What's actually making a mockery is our government's wishy washy approach to the situation, piss poor communication (you'd get more clarity from Paddy Pintman), not knowing about and building resources for this enviable second wave is the mockery.


    politics over

    What will probably happen is,

    a) Smyth's will push everyone to delivery only or may be contactless collection (think of popping the boot type collections, and figure a way to take/print receipts).

    b) if we go to L4/L5 now this week, we will hopefully be back out again by the time it's released so that collections can happen.

    c) GameStop will royally f*ck this up, and this post will be yet another reminder not to support them but guarantee there will be angry posts here come launch day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    LeeroyJ. wrote: »
    I honestly can't seem them closing down retail currently, closing down the most important part of the year (Christmas Shopping) and forcing people on to Amazon for it would kill Irish retailers and the economy, I just can't see the government want to deal with the economic fallout of that. That being said, if things continue to get worse they probably will close it down but not as things are currently.

    If they close down hard now, they may be able to have us back in good shape 1st or 2nd week of November, so we can drop back to maybe level 3, so that shops can open back up.

    If we do things right, we can maybe save Christmas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Kremin


    wes wrote: »
    If they close down hard now, they may be able to have us back in good shape 1st or 2nd week of November, so we can drop back to maybe level 3, so that shops can open back up.

    If we do things right, we can maybe save Christmas.

    I'd love to see the figures how many people have actually caught the virus from retail shops with all the restrictions and systems they have in place, surely they aren't driving this surge in cases ?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,593 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Kremin wrote: »
    I'd love to see the figures how many people have actually caught the virus from retail shops with all the restrictions and systems they have in place, surely they aren't driving this surge in cases ?

    Shops being open means people gather. A quick gander at Henry or Grafton Street any recent weekend shows this. The shops themselves may not be driving virus transmission within their own walls, but the surrounding social interactions - where people meet, shop, pop on public transport, maybe eat and drink - would not be ideal in a situation where we simply don’t want people to meet at all for a few weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,425 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Well, without dragging the new C-word into the conversation, I suppose it's all the stuff that goes with the retailers being open: Not so much "Did I catch it in the shop" but more like: In order for the places to be open staff have to commute, stock has to de delivered from one location to another and shelved, people will have to work closely together, shoppers using public transport etc. It's kind of like the people going on about the whole "Oh, the pubs have to close by 10 'cos that's when the virus comes out" glib responses. No, after 10 is when people get stupid with a few pints in 'em (Well, I sure do :) ).

    But yeah, to bring it back.... I can see them being closed at launch date but probably opening up for last week in November until Christmas. As many have said in this and many other threads, it's a balancing act between public safety and the economy.

    It is unfortunate because it was my intention to spend as much as possible in bricks-and-morter shops this year for Christmas to help businesses. Hopefully we have enough time/space betwen now and Christmas to do this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Kremin


    Shops being open means people gather. A quick gander at Henry or Grafton Street any recent weekend shows this. The shops themselves may not be driving virus transmission within their own walls, but the surrounding social interactions - where people meet, shop, maybe eat and drink - would not be ideal in a situation where we simply don’t want people to meet at all for a few weeks.

    Easy solution is have guards dispersing people and fining loiterers, no need to punish all brick and mortar retail shops for things out of their control.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭The Raging Bile Duct


    Kremin wrote: »
    Easy solution is have guards dispersing people and fining loiterers, no need to punish all brick and mortar retail shops for things out of their control.

    We wouldn't have a tenth of the Gardai required to do this.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,593 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Kremin wrote: »
    Easy solution is have guards dispersing people and fining loiterers, no need to punish all brick and mortar retail shops for things out of their control.

    An ‘easy solution’ that would mean a radical change in direction for policing in this country (heavy enforcement is not a characteristic of our police force), huge amounts of extra resources that’d be better spent elsewhere, and risk damaging social solidarity (not that we’re particularly cohesive at the moment). I do think there needs to be *more* enforcement that we’ve seen, but equally see the major benefits of an approach that doesn’t come with the threat of immediate fines and punishments.

    Frankly, there are more important things right now than ensuring toy retailers stay open. And there are *far* more important things to consider than whether getting a preordered PS5 will be a little more awkward to collect than expected.


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