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Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,183 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    quartz1 wrote: »
    Some deaths arising sadly from the Portlaoise Nursing Home , may the poor souls Rest in Peace .

    Were they only saying the other day all was good and no one was in danger


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,414 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Could you even be bothered for every study that says one thing there's another to say the polar opposite.

    Sorry, nope. I'm pretty sure you were pointed to sources of info countless times already.

    Hit the switch to keep the lights on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 58,679 ✭✭✭✭Necro


    That's a Stones sorry to hear hopefully you'll bounce out of it. Any idea how you got it?

    Your exactly what I'm talking about though your 100% a positive active case. I called it a True positive I'm not sure or the right phrase.
    When we go blanket testing were picking up possibly old cases might be only two weeks old but could be two months. That's my issue, your gone from testing active cases to random sampling for RNA and including them as positives the exact same way that your case has been recorded when there two different beasts.

    Not really sure tbh. Likely the North, was watching footie on TV with a mate last Saturday, he had been up to visit his sister who subsequently tested positive this week.

    Would have been nice of him to tell me like. Only found that out when I rang him myself to tell him he was a close contact (tracers still haven't contacted me for my list so did it all myself)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Lisa1992


    Does anyone have a rough idea of how long the contact tracing process takes? My sister tested positive on Thursday and nobody has asked for her close contacts yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 58,679 ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Lisa1992 wrote: »
    Does anyone have a rough idea of how long the contact tracing process takes? My sister tested positive on Thursday and nobody has asked for her close contacts yet?

    Same as me. Did she have her first call with them yet can I ask? Apparently it's a two-stage process.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭quartz1


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Were they only saying the other day all was good and no one was in danger

    Their not alright according to RIP.ie if you check it for Laois deaths


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭jopax


    None on a Sunday. Tomorrow gives a 48 hour swab and testing count.

    I thought they released them on Sundays too.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Necro wrote: »
    Not really sure tbh. Likely the North, was watching footie on TV with a mate last Saturday, he had been up to visit his sister who subsequently tested positive this week.

    Would have been nice of him to tell me like. Only found that out when I rang him myself to tell him he was a close contact (tracers still haven't contacted me for my list so did it all myself)

    This seems to be an issue - close contacts of those who have tested positive not isolating

    I'd be majorly pissed off at your friend if I were you

    Glad to hear you are not doing too bad, continued best wishes for a speedy recovery


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,183 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    quartz1 wrote: »
    Their not alright according to RIP.ie if you check it for Laois deaths

    Had a feeling that was where you got the data and checked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    jopax wrote: »
    I thought they released them on Sundays too.
    Case numbers yes, swab totals no.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    I find your post strange. You have already said you will keep your kids at home until a vaccine is available. Now you have an issue with a vaccine when it becomes available. No pleasing some people.

    I may wish to buy a car next week, however I don't want an unreliable one

    I know, obvious

    Perhaps the poster is a little biased towards a safe vaccine ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 58,679 ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Stheno wrote: »
    This seems to be an issue - close contacts of those who have tested positive not isolating

    I'd be majorly pissed off at your friend if I were you

    Glad to hear you are not doing too bad, continued best wishes for a speedy recovery

    Yeah add to it he's totally asymptomatic I'm not in the best of humour about it.

    Now that being said, there is another avenue where I possibly contracted it which was at work, learned of another colleague self-isolating as a result of close contact (we work in the same section) so potentially picked it up through a contaminated surface or something there. Had no close contact with him mind, so the likelihood is it's my buddy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,505 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Necro wrote: »
    Not really sure tbh. Likely the North, was watching footie on TV with a mate last Saturday, he had been up to visit his sister who subsequently tested positive this week.

    Would have been nice of him to tell me like. Only found that out when I rang him myself to tell him he was a close contact (tracers still haven't contacted me for my list so did it all myself)

    Mates are good like that, has he any symptoms and tested positive?

    Contact tracing seems a joke...we've a list made for the staff incase the contact tracers come looking for it, was part of the rules that had to be followed for reopening. I wonder will they bother contacting your work and looking for it. I don't get how there so slow to react.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭jopax


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Case numbers yes, swab totals no.

    Okay, I get you thanks, is it just the positives but not how many tests were taken.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Lisa1992


    Necro wrote: »
    Same as me. Did she have her first call with them yet can I ask? Apparently it's a two-stage process.

    So she had her test Wednesday and her own GP called her Thursday with the results that she’s positive, then on Saturday she had her first call from the hse but that was just to let her know she had tested positive and was told someone from contact tracing would be in touch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 58,679 ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Mates are good like that, has he any symptoms and tested positive?

    Contact tracing seems a joke...we've a list made for the staff incase the contact tracers come looking for it, was part of the rules that had to be followed for reopening. I wonder will they bother contacting your work and looking for it. I don't get how there so slow to react.

    No symptoms, hasn't been tested yet :rolleyes: Tried to contact his GP on Friday and couldn't get through


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    hmmm wrote: »
    If people aren't going to take vaccines for whatever reason - happy to let others be the guinea pigs, no interest, anti-vax etc., then the rest of society will need to be protected from the consequences of that choice. It's important that the "vulnerable" who have had such a difficult time trying to keep themselves safe don't have to continue restricting themselves because of the selfishness of others.

    At that point we need to flip the rules on cocooning/restrictions etc. The people who haven't taken a vaccine will need to be kept out of places where they may spread the disease, e.g. pubs, restaurants, schools, workplaces, international travel. They may be happy to take their chances with this virus, but the rest of the population shouldn't have to continue to restrict themselves as a consequence. Over time we will eventually achieve herd immunity thanks to a combination of vaccines and natural infections at which time society can re-open fully.

    This is an outrageous suggestion in my opinion, as I've stated previously on the other thread. You're advocating mandatory vaccination of the most rushed vaccine in history.
    I'm pro-vaccine in general, but I don't agree with being forced to take something that's produced in a panic. If the vaccine produces good results in trials, and early vaccination groups - great. People will take it and uptake will be high, there should be no-one forced into it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    hmmm wrote: »
    If people aren't going to take vaccines for whatever reason - happy to let others be the guinea pigs, no interest, anti-vax etc., then the rest of society will need to be protected from the consequences of that choice. It's important that the "vulnerable" who have had such a difficult time trying to keep themselves safe don't have to continue restricting themselves because of the selfishness of others.

    At that point we need to flip the rules on cocooning/restrictions etc. The people who haven't taken a vaccine will need to be kept out of places where they may spread the disease, e.g. pubs, restaurants, schools, workplaces, international travel. They may be happy to take their chances with this virus, but the rest of the population shouldn't have to continue to restrict themselves as a consequence. Over time we will eventually achieve herd immunity thanks to a combination of vaccines and natural infections at which time society can re-open fully.
    Not everything is black and white, some of the people who might not be able to take the vaccine especially earlier on... Are in the vulnerable group.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Lisa1992 wrote: »
    So she had her test Wednesday and her own GP called her Thursday with the results that she’s positive, then on Saturday she had her first call from the hse but that was just to let her know she had tested positive and was told someone from contact tracing would be in touch.

    Apparently public health teams are overwhelmed with contact tracing

    One wonders what the HSE did to plan for this the past seven months


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,505 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Stheno wrote: »
    This seems to be an issue - close contacts of those who have tested positive not isolating

    I'd be majorly pissed off at your friend if I were you

    There not even going for a test let alone isolating.

    I like the Czech approach of going to a hotel maybe we could have an Irish version where when one of your gang test positive you all get to hang out in the same hotel for two weeks. They'd all turn up for a test.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 58,679 ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Lisa1992 wrote: »
    So she had her test Wednesday and her own GP called her Thursday with the results that she’s positive, then on Saturday she had her first call from the hse but that was just to let her know she had tested positive and was told someone from contact tracing would be in touch.

    Basically the same as me so

    Tested wednesday, heard from my GP Friday I was positive. Contact tracers rang yesterday morning with a questionnaire about my symptoms, possible sources of transmission etc.

    Told I would be contacted again for list of contacts... still waiting. :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 348 ✭✭Trouser Snake


    Necro wrote: »
    Yeah add to it he's totally asymptomatic I'm not in the best of humour about it.

    Now that being said, there is another avenue where I possibly contracted it which was at work, learned of another colleague self-isolating as a result of close contact (we work in the same section) so potentially picked it up through a contaminated surface or something there. Had no close contact with him mind, so the likelihood is it's my buddy.


    Did he know at the time do you think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,296 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    This is an outrageous suggestion in my opinion, as I've stated previously on the other thread. You're advocating mandatory vaccination of the most rushed vaccine in history.
    I'm pro-vaccine in general, but I don't agree with being forced to take something that's produced in a panic. If the vaccine produces good results in trials, and early vaccination groups - great. People will take it and uptake will be high, there should be no-one forced into it.

    Yeah, and if they do spread it, it's gonna be to others who haven't taken the vaccine, so why would there be a problem?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,183 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Necro wrote: »
    Basically the same as me so

    Tested wednesday, heard from my GP Friday I was positive. Contact tracers rang yesterday morning with a questionnaire about my symptoms, possible sources of transmission etc.

    Told I would be contacted again for list of contacts... still waiting. :cool:

    You would think they would do it all in the same call then have a callback to see if they remember any more names.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 58,679 ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Did he know at the time do you think?

    No, tbf to him he only found out his sister was going for a test on the Monday.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    This is an outrageous suggestion in my opinion, as I've stated previously on the other thread. You're advocating mandatory vaccination of the most rushed vaccine in history.
    I'm pro-vaccine in general, but I don't agree with being forced to take something that's produced in a panic. If the vaccine produces good results in trials, and early vaccination groups - great. People will take it and uptake will be high, there should be no-one forced into it.

    Imo this will become the case, essentially the concept of proof of immunity will be required


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 58,679 ✭✭✭✭Necro


    spookwoman wrote: »
    You would think they would do it all in the same call then have a callback to see if they remember any more names.

    Yeah, I even told the guy I had my list for them including work colleagues. He was kind of surprised! Like, I'm sitting at home since Tuesday afternoon, would be irresponsible of me not to at least have something organised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Lisa1992


    Necro wrote: »
    Basically the same as me so

    Tested wednesday, heard from my GP Friday I was positive. Contact tracers rang yesterday morning with a questionnaire about my symptoms, possible sources of transmission etc.

    Told I would be contacted again for list of contacts... still waiting. :cool:

    Its madness really. Thankfully she has isolated since symptoms started and contacted all her close contacts over the past 2 weeks. All our immediate family been tested and 2 more cases found in cousins each different households. We’re fairly on top of it ourselves just can’t believe how long its taking for the contact tracing to get in touch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 58,679 ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Lisa1992 wrote: »
    Its madness really. Thankfully she has isolated since symptoms started and contacted all her close contacts over the past 2 weeks. All our immediate family been tested and 2 more cases found in cousins each different households. We’re fairly on top of it ourselves just can’t believe how long its taking for the contact tracing to get in touch.

    I think this is the thing, we are each just going to have to take responsibility for it ourselves and let people know, all my close contacts are the same, most have been tested now too just waiting on results.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Lisa1992


    Stheno wrote: »
    Apparently public health teams are overwhelmed with contact tracing

    One wonders what the HSE did to plan for this the past seven months

    It’s ridiculous we obviously went ahead with isolating and getting tested and 2 more cases found in the family. Can’t understand why they don’t just take the persons contact list when ringing with their results.


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