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Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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  • #7532
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,505 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Miike wrote: »
    Where did you get this? Is there more data?

    Think one of the posters here puts it together daily..

    https://twitter.com/MartinaBroe1/status/1315054791228379136?s=20


  • #7533
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Deshawn wrote: »
    So she is an essential worker?

    Strange that you left that but out until I gave my reply. Pants on fire?

    No the point was to show you why your suggestion that noone from NI should be working in ROI is bs.
    I don't give a shiny one whether you believe me or not.


  • #7534
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,505 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Not to mention the hundreds of positive cases we should have had every week in June and July if this were true. It is a fact conveniently avoided by proponents of this theory.

    I think it's well down the list of things to be worried about, reporting cases that are in no way infectious is my issue with the daily cases.


  • #7535
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,014 ✭✭✭Miike


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Think one of the posters here puts it together daily..

    https://twitter.com/MartinaBroe1/status/1315054791228379136?s=20

    Thanks :)


  • #7536
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Strumms wrote: »
    We don’t have the resources as regards people, equipment or beds.

    If you told a doctor, nurse or any staff member at a hospital now... “ohhh we are opening up to take in NI folks. Regardless of hierarchy hr policy on communication , they'd be quite rightly told to fûck off.

    So you think doctors or nurses care about the accent or address of a patient?
    You really are deluded in your claims.


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  • #7537
    mandrake04
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    0.8% rate of false positives if we're testing 19,000 a day means we have 152 false positives a day. That's 152 red herrings were wasting time contact tracing per day. Some are testing positive for RNA they had months ago, then we're contact tracing them as well, pretty much waste of time testing a lot of people.



    What if you only have 152 positive results? are they all wrong?

    What if you have zero positive results is there still 152 False Positives?


  • #7538
    bazermc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭bazermc


    Circuit Breaker.

    I already hate that phrase.

    Is it just another way to describe level 5 so the bold Leo saves face


  • #7539
    Deshawn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 192 ✭✭Deshawn


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    No the point was to show you why your suggestion that noone from NI should be working in ROI is bs.
    I don't give a shiny one whether you believe me or not.

    Nobody believes you friend


  • #7540
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 502 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Miike wrote: »
    Where did you get this? Is there more data?

    You could check out ’Alerting Parents of Outbreaks in Schools’ on Facebook. Twelve thousand people using the site two weeks ago, 88.8 thousand today. There is a complete disconnect among media, Gov and NPHET about the reality of schools and Covid. Heads deep in the sand. You'd wish we had teachers unions in this country!


  • #7541
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    What does that matter? We don't force any other of our citizens into indoor locations (in greater numbers and less distance than would be acceptable anywhere else) where they might be at risk of catching it?

    These are questions that I have been asked by young people - why us?

    The answer to that question is that the young are very unlikely to become seriously ill.

    The problem with that answer is that it clashes with the notion that the young shouldn't socialise. Anyone who has collected kids from school recently or even driven past a school at chucking out time knows the idea of socially distancing 10 - 16 year olds is like herding cats.


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  • #7542
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Deshawn wrote: »
    So she is an essential worker?

    Strange that you left that but out until I gave my reply. Pants on fire?

    Don't you also have cousins in America who were directly affected by the race riots?
    From a different thread a few weeks back

    Never commented on that thread that I'm aware of . Of course you can always contradict me with a quote if you think I'm lying.
    Have a brother that's a P3 in LAPD .


  • #7543
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,725 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    bazermc wrote: »
    Circuit Breaker.

    I already hate that phrase.

    Is it just another way to describe level 5 so the bold Leo saves face

    Seems that way alright.


  • #7544
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,132 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    So you think doctors or nurses care about the accent or address of a patient?
    You really are deluded in your claims.

    They care when they are overrun with patients they haven’t got the tools as in staff, beds and equipment to help. While having to turn away our own.. Sure we might as well invite them from every and anywhere. Delusion is all yours if you think us opening up our hospitals to another state is appropriate. Jesus fückin wept.


  • #7545
    mandrake04
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Some are testing positive for RNA they had months ago





    Just to repeat on the picking up RNA from months ago, for other readers



    If the test is picking up virus from months ago then how come this is only a problem now?

    Back at the tail end of June and the start of July... 31,005 tests carried out in a week but only 89 positives.... how come it wasn't picking up virus from months ago then? Considering that during April/May and into June there would have been a very high level of infection that went untested/unnoticed.

    How come this wasn't a problem then?

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    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=113928715&postcount=1334


    Ok

    Now look at a country like Australia, uses the same test. They had a lot of recent cases within the last few months.

    In the last week they done 215,000 tests but only 110 cases, how come they don't have this problem?

    528639.PNG


    The simple answer is for many people it suits them for cases not to appear to rise, whether it means not testing at all or that they tests are flawed.

    This kind of rubbish

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    Sure tests could have false positive rates and could pick up dead RNA... many experts would not argue with that as its possible but that doesn't mean they are. Those rates would be incredibly low, otherwise it would be more apparent in the numbers. How can you explain rising hospitalisation's and deaths.


    Its all a load of rubbish.


  • #7546
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    What does that matter? We don't force any other of our citizens into indoor locations (in greater numbers and less distance than would be acceptable anywhere else) where they might be at risk of catching it?

    These are questions that I have been asked by young people - why us?

    Yet under 15s are catching it at a lower rate than the rest of us


  • #7547
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    bazermc wrote: »
    Circuit Breaker.

    I already hate that phrase.

    Is it just another way to describe level 5 so the bold Leo saves face

    I like it. It generates the image of a sparking high voltage lever being flipped, preventing the power station from burning to the ground.


  • #7548
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,505 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    The answer to that question is that the young are very unlikely to become seriously ill.

    The problem with that answer is that it clashes with the notion that the young shouldn't socialise. Anyone who has collected kids from school recently or even driven past a school at chucking out time knows the idea of socially distancing 10 - 16 year olds is like herding cats.

    How many 0-12yrs old has this killed here, the HSE say the flu kills 4 a year.


  • #7549
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Strumms wrote: »
    They care when they are overrun with patients they haven’t got the tools as in staff, beds and equipment to help. While having to turn away our own.. Sure we might as well invite them from every and anywhere. Delusion is all yours if you think us opening up our hospitals to another state is appropriate. Jesus fückin wept.

    Any links to your claims as to how staff feel? Or are you just making up stuff as usual.


  • #7550
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    s1ippy wrote: »


    Dangerous spelling mistake speckle, I thought you got preggers off the lotto..!

    Lightning never hit me, but I was holding a closed umbrella looking at the sea once and I pointed to something in the distance with it and where the metal part of the umbrella was directed, lightning hit the water. Scared the living sh!t out of me.


    haha prefered... well I am known to partake in the odd rain or sundance also like your umbrella episode.. Have to say when the lightening stuck.. all my furry friends were bounding in over the half door to shelter, and it happened as I was about to close the full door. Would not change a thing but quiet frightening the force of nature but also awe inspiring. Like this virus. But as humans we have lived along side nature both the good and bad for ages and will continue to do so, virus or not:)


  • #7551
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    1,066 NI cases, 1 death.


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  • #7552
    OscarMIlde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    0.8% rate of false positives if we're testing 19,000 a day means we have 152 false positives a day. That's 152 red herrings were wasting time contact tracing per day. Some are testing positive for RNA they had months ago, then we're contact tracing them as well, pretty much waste of time testing a lot of people.

    You know full well this is false. It has been explained to you many, many times that this is completely untrue.

    That you continue to parrot this trash is appalling. It's disinformation like this that is eroding public confidence in containment measures and encouraging people to disregard the public health advice.

    People like you should be ashamed of themselves. You are directly contributing to conditions which are going to lead to further restrictions, and further economic hardship for many business owners who are facing huge losses already.
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


  • #7553
    Necro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 58,679 ✭✭✭✭Necro


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    We've went over this Martina, I think nothing, I've linked to the UK estimates, your taking Scientist data and swinging it around calling it my data to rubbish it. That's dishonest posting.

    Yeah I'd be very careful using UK data on anything though. After all, a spreadsheet error caused them to undercount their own cases a week ago.

    Not saying you aren't posting it in good faith, I just wouldn't trust the Tories to manage a piss-up in a brewery to be quite honest.


  • #7554
    Necro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 58,679 ✭✭✭✭Necro


    An Ciarraioch wrote: »
    1,066 NI cases, 1 death.

    NI have essentially lost control of the spread up there it seems. Was teetering that way but seems to have gone over the edge.


  • #7555
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,132 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Any links to your claims as to how staff feel? Or are you just making up stuff as usual.

    One of my friends is a carer, another used to be, one is a physio, one a doctor.

    No, don’t have ‘links’ to private conversations but you can take my view as fact or fiction I cannot give two fûcks quite frankly. :)

    For you are the person advocating that people be allowed to travel into this state, from another that’s riddled with covid, and receive free medical care at a significant cost to the taxpayers here during the greatest health and indeed financial crises ever faced in this state. Taking up much needed beds and resources that actual tax payers here contribute to. Right.


  • #7556
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,014 ✭✭✭Miike


    Balagan1 wrote: »
    You could check out ’Alerting Parents of Outbreaks in Schools’ on Facebook. Twelve thousand people using the site two weeks ago, 88.8 thousand today. There is a complete disconnect among media, Gov and NPHET about the reality of schools and Covid. Heads deep in the sand. You'd wish we had teachers unions in this country!

    I don't have Facebook - but the Twitter linked is interesting! Thanks for the suggestion :pac:


  • #7557
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,505 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Necro wrote: »
    Not saying you aren't posting it in good faith, I just wouldn't trust the Tories to manage a piss-up in a brewery to be quite honest.

    Either would I and that goes for our own crew as well.

    There's a few posters that rubbish every bit of data that's presented to them while they can't present any contradicting it.
    I posted this on the UK estimates earlier and it was dismissed as if I had just made it up and there still harping on as if they are 100% correct and have proven how they are correct.
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30453-7/fulltext


  • #7558
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Necro wrote: »
    NI have essentially lost control of the spread up there it seems. Was teetering that way but seems to have gone over the edge.

    Be interesting to see which cracks first;

    Commitment to the GFA or commitment to public health


  • #7559
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Strumms wrote: »
    One of my friends is a carer, another used to be, one is a physio, one a doctor.

    No, don’t have ‘links’ to private conversations but you can take my view as fact or fiction I cannot give two fûcks quite frankly. :)

    For you are the person advocating that people be allowed to travel into this state, who are residents of other states and receive free medical care at a significant cost to the taxpayers here during the greatest health crises ever faced in this state. Taking up much needed beds and resources that actual tax payers here contribute to. Right.

    No, I 'm a person that believes people should be given medical care regardless of their address.
    Wasn't there a spat in the Dail about people from Kerry travelling to NI for medical treatment? Should that be stopped too?


  • #7560
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,505 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    OscarMIlde wrote: »
    You know full well this is false. It has been explained to you many, many times that this is completely untrue.

    What part is false, it hasn't been explained once and backed up with any data that says it's false.
    The CCO hadn't the data when questioned by McNamara so I very much doubt you have it.


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  • #7561
    Deshawn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 192 ✭✭Deshawn


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    No, I 'm a person that believes people should be given medical care regardless of their address.
    Wasn't there a spat in the Dail about people from Kerry travelling to NI for medical treatment? Should that be stopped too?

    During a Pandemic? Most definitely.

    I would think that the health authorities in northern Ireland wouldn't want people from the Republic traveling up and using vital health resources. Going further I would think that this service is suspended now. Nobody is making that trip from Kerry to Belfast.


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