Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

Kermit.de.frog · 10-10-2020 08:33PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

The Snapper better start at 9.30 without them pontificating the news over it.

Are yeh alright Sharon...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVu9MDE5Sjk

hynesie08 · 10-10-2020 08:34PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

They are...

...So how many are in ICU and how many have died in ICU?
How many have died outside of ICU, i.e. in their beds?

Of the weekly figures how many needed hospital treatment or were asymptomatic and told to self isolate?
What % of those who died in the past 4 weeks had two 2 or more underlying conditions?

Do we feel that if you look at the data for those who sadly passed away that this proves we need further restrictions/lockdowns?

https://mobile.twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1314982844339453952

Goldrickssan · 10-10-2020 08:34PM

manniot2 wrote: »

Sorry to hear that. What setting did they die in?

Does that matter?

Mushy · 10-10-2020 08:34PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

The Snapper better start at 9.30 without them pontificating the news over it.

10.25. On the bright side, Finding Joy at 9.55

xhomelezz · 10-10-2020 08:34PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

The peak of deaths due to Covid was in April, can you tell me how many lorries were parked outside hospitals then?

I have one big one outside of my house. Will I pick you up?

The HorsesMouth · 10-10-2020 08:35PM

majcos wrote: »

Healthcare workers are not counted as close contacts either if wearing a mask. Not ‘full’ PPE but just a mask according to current advice is enough to not be considered a close contact of patients or other staff in most circumstances with a few exceptions such as having performed an aerosolising generating procedures for example. If another healthcare worker tests positive, not counted as a close contact as should be wearing a mask and performing hand hygiene and keeping 2 metres as much as possible even though could have spent 13 hours side by side. I am not arguing if this is right or wrong, I am just explaining the guidelines and pointing out the same policy is being applied to the SNA as healthcare workers.

Thanks for that info. It's absolutely crazy that they are not deemed close contacts. Cotton masks are not bullet proof!

10-10-2020 08:36PM

Strumms wrote: »

Even more harm ? right, what extreme measures did we take ? There is NOTHING extreme in what we did or are doing, when you compare it with the alternative. To suggest ‘extreme’ is to suggest disproportionate. What we did and ARE doing is exactly proportional to the circumstances we are in.

We simply, or the majority simply stood up and did the right thing and are continuing to do so and will continue to behave in responsible and fair thought out, responsible and intelligent ways.

And you can say this with certainty because?

martingriff · 10-10-2020 08:36PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

I wonder how long will it take before we all just accept that this virus is simply not containable at this stage. We could suppress it down to low levels by taking extreme measures which would cause even more harm than Covid itself.
There are no easy choices but the idea of virtually shutting down all social activity is just bonkers imo. We might as well be trying to stop the tide going in and out.
We have to live with this thing, so let’s just get on with it and let everyone take whatever precautions they feel necessary to take for themselves.

Me fein and f all the rest of us is it?

Just tell me how hard it is just to be cautious. Wash your hands sanitize them, cough and sneeze into you elbow and tissue and social distance. Maybe if we all do this we can be at lower level and you can go visit who you want go to your pub and have your drink and also keep businesses open.

It's not that hard to do is it?

Plumbthedepths · 10-10-2020 08:36PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

I wonder how long will it take before we all just accept that this virus is simply not containable at this stage. We could suppress it down to low levels by taking extreme measures which would cause even more harm than Covid itself.
There are no easy choices but the idea of virtually shutting down all social activity is just bonkers imo. We might as well be trying to stop the tide going in and out.
We have to live with this thing, so let’s just get on with it and let everyone take whatever precautions they feel necessary to take for themselves.

Personal responsibility? Ah here now....

Tenzor07 · 10-10-2020 08:36PM

xhomelezz wrote: »

I have one big one outside of my house. Will I pick you up?

As you're homeless then go worry about yourself...

Atlantic Dawn · 10-10-2020 08:37PM

outsourced_ire wrote: »

22:25 I believe (sorry:D)

My mistake, lol.

bb1234567 · 10-10-2020 08:37PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

I wonder how long will it take before we all just accept that this virus is simply not containable at this stage. We could suppress it down to low levels by taking extreme measures which would cause even more harm than Covid itself.
There are no easy choices but the idea of virtually shutting down all social activity is just bonkers imo. We might as well be trying to stop the tide going in and out.
We have to live with this thing, so let’s just get on with it and let everyone take whatever precautions they feel necessary to take for themselves.

I don't claim to know the answer but it's just not true that it's not containable really, Japan, Vietnam, South Korea, Hong Kong, Singapore..all contained it effectively while maintaining a relative normalcy in daily life

Ger Roe · 10-10-2020 08:37PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

The peak of deaths due to Covid was in April, can you tell me how many lorries were parked outside hospitals then?

None... because we took appropriate action. There are plenty of examples of other countries where they didn't and they had lorries.

Some posters here think we should just take no action and get on with it. Remember Spain, Italy, New York in April ?

Tenzor07 · 10-10-2020 08:38PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

https://mobile.twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1314982844339453952

I wonder if that's since the start of the year or the start of March...

Akabusi · 10-10-2020 08:38PM

Fuascailteoir wrote: »

Is an outbreak in cavan general itself and the GAA are going to have to shoulder a lot of the responsibility for the outbreak as seems to have coincided with county final celebrations

I don't believe we have seen the effects of the senior County final yet. What we are seeing is the effects of the intermediate final the week before. Ballinagh won that and due to the celebrations there was a large spike in the area which had now spread to other areas. Ballinagh GAA club actually suspended all club activities two days before the GAA countrywide suspension.

KrustyUCC · 10-10-2020 08:39PM

tastyt wrote: »

I don’t understand how they can let thousands of people train for sport 7 nights a week and think it has no effect , and I say this as a player .

Especially GAA are getting away with it

Can you point to any cases occurring from training outdoors?

Tenzor07 · 10-10-2020 08:39PM

Ger Roe wrote: »

None... because we took appropriate action. There are plenty of examples of other countries where they didn't and they had lorries.

Some posters here think we should just take no action and get on with it. Remember Spain, Italy, New York in April ?

Took action?

If action was indeed properly taken then more lives could have been saved:

https://extra.ie/2020/04/22/news/irish-news/nursing-homes-staff-face-masks

ziggyman17 · 10-10-2020 08:39PM

Mwengwe wrote: »

Close the schools

And keep the kids indoors, instead of running wild out in the open for 8 hours a day..........

frank8211 · 10-10-2020 08:40PM

Fuascailteoir wrote: »

Is an outbreak in cavan general itself and the GAA are going to have to shoulder a lot of the responsibility for the outbreak as seems to have coincided with county final celebrations

Would the hospital outbreak be connected back to the county final celebrations through close connection of medical staff to team organisers, by any chance

manniot2 · 10-10-2020 08:40PM

Goldrickssan wrote: »

Does that matter?

Bloody hell I was just curious it was one of the ICu deaths ffs. Can’t ask anything on here.

WoollyRedHat · 10-10-2020 08:41PM

I can't believe gyms are still allowed to be open with cases rising like they are.People seem to be of opinion they're closed but not they've not until Level 4.

Kermit.de.frog · 10-10-2020 08:41PM

France reports record 26,854 new cases and 54 new deaths in past 24 hrs.

frank8211 · 10-10-2020 08:41PM

Akabusi wrote: »

I don't believe we have seen the effects of the senior County final yet. What we are seeing is the effects of the intermediate final the week before. Ballinagh won that and due to the celebrations there was a large spike in the area which had now spread to other areas. Ballinagh GAA club actually suspended all club activities two days before the GAA countrywide suspension.

exactly

bb1234567 · 10-10-2020 08:43PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

France reports record 26,854 new cases and 54 new deaths in past 24 hrs.

Deaths remarkably tiny by comparison

s1ippy · 10-10-2020 08:43PM

outsourced_ire wrote: »

22:25 I believe (sorry:D)

We're used to delays in this thread

Seamai · 10-10-2020 08:43PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

France reports record 26,854 new cases and 54 new deaths in past 24 hrs.

J.C. That's almost 4 times their first wave peak for new cases.

Tredstone · 10-10-2020 08:43PM

Akabusi wrote: »

I don't believe we have seen the effects of the senior County final yet. What we are seeing is the effects of the intermediate final the week before. Ballinagh won that and due to the celebrations there was a large spike in the area which had now spread to other areas. Ballinagh GAA club actually suspended all club activities two days before the GAA countrywide suspension.

Lol

normanoffside · 10-10-2020 08:45PM

cannotlogin wrote: »

I really wish they would start providing details of the spread in a meaningful which have a great chance of resonating with people aren't getting it.

Instead of close contacts, community transition etc.

For example:-

50 related to a house party
70 related to mass gathering at the Spanish arch
100 related to gaa match & celebrations
50 in a meat factory
90 at a protest
80 in a secondary school etc.

100 in a nursing home
200 in hospital

They don't want you to know that.

bb1234567 · 10-10-2020 08:46PM

https://www.france24.com/en/20201010-french-health-workers-traumatised-as-covid-19-resurges

Over 40% of ICU beds in Paris metro area now occupied by covid patients

France seem well able to cope though, 12,000 beds on reserve for covid surge.

wirelessdude01 · 10-10-2020 08:46PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

The Snapper better start at 9.30 without them pontificating the news over it.

It's at 10:30!!

Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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