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Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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  • #6572
    GazzaL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    tigger123 wrote: »
    NPHET provides public health advice. They cant change the virus, or the rate of transmission.

    Being ang9et at them is like being angry at a weather forecaster because they've told you it's going to rain.

    They're shaping public policy and the country's response and they have failed miserably. They continually failed to hit their own testing and tracing targets, they failed to address capacity issues, they've been the laggards of Europe in terms of adopting scientific research and reopening strategies, and they've bombarded the public with mixed messages. They're making things up as they go along, group think galore, and they've blamed the public all the way along. rather than facing up to their own failings.


  • #6573
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,183 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


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  • #6574
    manniot2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    Mantis Toboggan wrote: »
    And the government tried to tell us that Tony Holohan's position was untenable! Good lord

    Cervical Tony should have been sacked years ago.


  • #6575
    thelad95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    They came up with this wishy washy levels approach but surely accompanying this approach should be some sort of threshold to move to a different level.

    We are at uncontrolled community spread and this will only get worse and worse. What exactly is the government waiting for?


  • #6576
    The_Brood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    If they start Level 5ing shops and the remaining things open, there needs to be evidence.

    All logic and reason points, and has always pointed, to schools. Unless the government can present evidence otherwise, the government leadership needs to be arrested for knowingly spreading the virus for deciding to open the schools. Every last piece of evidence regarding how the virus spreads points to schools being the culprit.

    Regardless of what the government do or don't do, there need to be criminal consequences.


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  • #6577
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    B.A._Baracus wrote: »
    1,012 cases huh.
    Just go into level 4/5 lockdown already. It's rising too fast.

    ... And for those who don't want that lockdown? look there is gonna be one at some point. Wouldn't it be best to do it now for 3 or 6 weeks so things can be reopened for Christmas and certain people won't be alone for Christmas?

    Level 5 lockdown. Gets the cases down and back open for Christmas.

    I've have no problem with going into level 5 if needed.

    But it sickens me that house parties,GAA gatherings,drunk students etc were not stopped from spreading the virus.

    If we go to level 5 I want them to pass laws so the Gardai can stop it happening again when we drop back down to level 2 eventually.


  • #6578
    DeanAustin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    Mantis Toboggan wrote: »
    And the government tried to tell us that Tony Holohan's position was untenable! Good lord

    Who said that?


  • #6579
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,723 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Not good lads. https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1314991100373991426?s=19


  • #6580
    sterz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭sterz


    Mantis Toboggan wrote: »
    And the government tried to tell us that Tony Holohan's position was untenable! Good lord

    When did they say that?


  • #6581
    thelad95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    The_Brood wrote: »
    If they start Level 5ing shops and the remaining things open, there needs to be evidence.

    All logic and reason points, and has always pointed, to schools. Unless the government can present evidence otherwise, the government leadership needs to be arrested for knowingly spreading the virus for deciding to open the schools. Every last piece of evidence regarding how the virus spreads points to schools being the culprit.

    Regardless of what the government do or don't do, there need to be criminal consequences.

    Can you enlighten us on this evidence? If there truly was evidence that schools were causing uncontrollable spread they'd have been closed already.


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  • #6582
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,288 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Well, my Liveline conversation from last week is on track


    Liveline 5th Oct, 2020


    Joe: On line one we have Jacinta, Jacinta how are you? Now you don't want the new restrictions? Tell me why...

    Jacinta: Howiyeh Adrian...

    Joe: It's Joe here

    Jacinta: Howiyeh Joe, Joe come here listen to me, i'm not accepting another lockdown Joe no way, da gubberment are killing us Joe, we have to stand up for our rights...


    Liveline 5th Nov, 2020


    Joe: On line one we have Jacinta, Jacinta how are you?

    Jacinta: Howiyeh Adrian...

    Joe: It's Joe here

    Jacinta: Howiyeh Joe, come here me 50 year old granny is in the hospital with da COVID, the government are granny killers Joe, they should have had the place closed down...


  • #6583
    Mantis Toboggan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,770 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Wonder will Leo and his cheerleaders be on Claire Byrne next week.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • #6584
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,145 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    B.A._Baracus wrote: »
    1,012 cases huh.
    Just go into level 4/5 lockdown already. It's rising too fast.

    ... And for those who don't want that lockdown? look there is gonna be one at some point. Wouldn't it be best to do it now for 3 or 6 weeks so things can be reopened for Christmas and certain people won't be alone for Christmas?

    Level 5 lockdown. Gets the cases down and back open for Christmas.

    Who is going pay for it all though, half a million out of work and no mortgage breaks


  • #6585
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,354 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I honestly think all these 'told you so' comments are disgusting. Acting as if everyone's playing some sort of game. This is far from a game.

    It's not that much fun being proven wrong again and again and again I guess.


  • #6586
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Purple Mountain wrote: »
    Does anyone have any insight into why the North has 'lost control'?

    Their level of restrictions are too low. Something similar to level 2 everywhere with something similar to level 3 in their worst areas.

    Low compliance (ulster says no) to restrictions and common sense too.


  • #6587
    lbj666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    titan18 wrote: »
    Even if level 3 stabilises like it looks like it has in Dublin. With no further growth, were now stabilising at 900ish cases a day. Considering there's likely to be more growth before we start stabilising, it's clear to me that something has to come on to actually reduce the rate as our hospitals will be fecked at this daily case load over a sustained period

    A Stabilised infection rate does not guarantee stabilised hospital statistics. I don't know what the average hospital stay rate is but I imagine the critical patients bring it well over 14days, so you could have a sustained rate of infection the but hospital capacity will keep filling up.


  • #6588
    Russman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,033 ✭✭✭Russman


    GazzaL wrote: »
    They're shaping public policy and the country's response and they have failed miserably. They continually failed to hit their own testing and tracing targets, they failed to address capacity issues, they've been the laggards of Europe in terms of adopting scientific research and reopening strategies, and they've bombarded the public with mixed messages. They're making things up as they go along, group think galore, and they've blamed the public all the way along. rather than facing up to their own failings.

    It’s not NPHET spreading the virus


  • #6589
    Necro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 58,678 ✭✭✭✭Necro


    DeanAustin wrote: »
    No he didn’t. Jesus Christ, does there always have to be a big winner and loser?

    Leo articulated very well why we weren’t moving to level 5 last week. The measures the government has implemented also haven’t had a chance to work yet. Had they implemented level 5 on Tuesday, we’d still have had 1000 cases today.

    I don't have a problem with the Government rejecting the Level 5 proposals, they are supposed to manage the wider concerns such as the economy and employment.

    But when the Tanaiste goes on Monday night television on our national TV station and criticises NPHET in the fashion he did, it was foolish and idiotic.

    Keep that behind closed doors. Leo should know this as a former doctor. And then you have that one Ciara Kelly howling like a banshee on the radio about restrictions, they should both be ashamed of themselves.


  • #6590
    Purple Mountain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,975 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Their level of restrictions are too low. Something similar to level 2 everywhere with something similar to level 3 in their worst areas.

    Low compliance (ulster says no) to restrictions and common sense too.
    Thank you

    To thine own self be true



  • #6591
    lbj666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    Arghus wrote: »
    It's not that much fun being proven wrong again and again and again I guess.

    There are a lot of stopped clocks getting the time right twice a day on this thread


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  • #6592
    sterz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭sterz


    Mantis Toboggan wrote: »
    Wonder will Leo and his cheerleaders be on Claire Byrne next week.

    Wonder if you can answer this.


  • #6593
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Purple Mountain wrote: »
    Does anyone have any insight into why the North has 'lost control'?

    Put simply... All services have been open up there, cases have started to rise and the claim they were unable to do anything to control it (close pubs, restaurants etc..) because they have no money to do so.


  • #6594
    Mantis Toboggan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,770 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Necro wrote: »
    But when the Tanaiste goes on Monday night television on our national TV station and criticises NPHET in the fashion he did, it was foolish and idiotic.

    Keep that behind closed doors. Leo should know this a former doctor. And then you have that one Ciara Kelly howling like a banshee on the radio about restrictions, they should both be ashamed of themselves.

    Bang on the money, embarrassing.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • #6595
    Purple Mountain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,975 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Their level of restrictions are too low. Something similar to level 2 everywhere with something similar to level 3 in their worst areas.

    Low compliance (ulster says no) to restrictions and common sense too.
    Thank you

    To thine own self be true



  • #6596
    GazzaL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    Russman wrote: »
    It’s not NPHET spreading the virus

    Nobody said they are. They're failing miserably at what they're supposed to be doing though.


  • #6597
    DeanAustin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    Necro wrote: »
    I don't have a problem with the Government rejecting the Level 5 proposals, they are supposed to manage the wider concerns such as the economy and employment.

    But when the Tanaiste goes on Monday night television on our national TV station and criticises NPHET in the fashion he did, it was foolish and idiotic.

    Keep that behind closed doors. Leo should know this a former doctor. And then you have that one Ciara Kelly howling like a banshee on the radio about restrictions, they should both be ashamed of themselves.

    They rejected NPHETs advice. They were getting criticised for it from some quarters all week for refusing it. They were obliged, for everyone’s sake, to come out and explain their decision making.

    As Leo explained it, the government had every right to be pissed at NPHET.


  • #6598
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Well the 1000 marker breached today, don't know what the next milestone marker after that is. Just about time they bought in fines, I could have handed out 20 today in the space of a 10 minute shop.


  • #6599
    Thierry12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 917 ✭✭✭Thierry12


    Mantis Toboggan wrote: »
    And the government tried to tell us that Tony Holohan's position was untenable! Good lord

    He needs to go

    The mans gone rogue

    Did he have a psych evaluation on his comeback? Fit to work?

    Alot happened him recently

    Needs to take a back seat, but will he?


  • #6600
    The_Brood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Can you enlighten us on this evidence? If there truly was evidence that schools were causing uncontrollable spread they'd have been closed already.

    The virus spreads by close contact, especially in indoor places, especially by people from many different households. That is the #1 criteria for the virus spread. That is exactly what schools are. Next to no social distancing, kids on top of each other, going home to infect households, who then infect the rest of society. This is 100% the trajectory.

    Schools have not been closed because the government is afraid of angry parents.


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  • #6601
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,354 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    lbj666 wrote: »
    There are a lot of stopped clocks getting the time right twice a day on this thread

    Twice a day isn't bad going.


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