2020 Diamond League

4Ad wrote: »

I was doing some cheering at the tv..Stupid question but can the runners see the lights ?

Yup, Thought Gideon was going to trip over herself looking backwards to see where the light was on the last lap

Chivito550 wrote: »

Sean Ingle touches on the shoes here:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/oct/07/cheptegui-and-gidey-smash-world-track-records-using-controversial-spikes

Those spikes cant be put even remotely in the same ballpark as the vaporfly, next percent or alpha fly.

For one, carbon plates have been in spikes since the 90's, I bet you have a carbon plate in your sprint spikes.

Secondly, non EVA foam isnt new either, EVA came along decades ago and then companies started using faster elastomers almost 10 years ago. I had a pair of Adidas Adizero Avanti boosts in 2014 that had a carbon plate and non EVA elastomer boost foam that increased energy return by more than 10% over EVA foam.

I can also say Jim Ryun wouldve ran 3:42 for the mile if he had a Mondo track and the same spikes as EL G did instead of a clay track and 1960's spikes. Technology always moves on.

The dragonfly is nowhere in the realm of having the same effect as the vaporfly. All the super shoe tech from the vaporfly has already existed on track spikes for decades or isnt transferable.

No massive stack height to cushion and add energy return
Carbon plate tech already hugely developed in track shoes from tuned resistance on sprint spikes to long distance spikes
Spikes are already on the market which are just as low weight and have been for decades

The only diff is the pebex foam from a regular track spike. And the foam wears have been going on since spikes were invented, from bannister spikes to Nike Waffle racers to rubber sole to EVA to boost elastomers to pebex elastomers. This spike is nowhere near as revolutionary as the road shoes.

And it just backs up a lot of things, the only reason the vaporfly is so revolutionary on the road is because it's been compared to road shoes.

Itziger wrote: »

I think to a lot of athletics fans it certainly does matter. Not just this case, but all those types of cases, from the flagrant Turkish bull$hit to anyone who's playing the system

She wasnt gaming the system, she moved there as a 15 year old refugee in 2008 and didnt even start running competitively until she was 18, she lived there full time for 8 years on the Dutch training base in the Netherlands until 2016 when she moved to Oregon to train with NOP. Those are the facts, what anyone does with them is up to them.

OOnegative wrote: »

No she didn’t, I’ll bow to you on certain subjects but you’re wrong here. They are not the facts and far from it.

Sometimes people have access to stuff you don’t.....

What are the facts then? I feel like I'm after walking into an Agatha christie novel:pac: