Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

Ficheall · 10-10-2020 05:30PM

polesheep wrote: »

Nothing wrong with differing opinions Ficheall. The atmosphere on here can be poisonous sometimes and I fear I occasionally get caught up in it. If I have ever offended you with a post I apologise.

You have not

Yet....

titan18 · 10-10-2020 05:30PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I hope a vaccine will be found but the quickest I found referenced to date was 5 years. Of course for Covid there are a few vaccines that may be re-engineerined for purpose although I suspect they won't actually be a vaccine but more a regime to lessen the effects of Covid. Hopefully i'm wrong but if enough but in it's a return to normal.

Tbf, the western world has never had as a big of a need for one as now. Some disease spreads in Africa or SEA and it doesn't affect us greatly, there's too much money being lost now for companies and governments not to put as much resources as they can into a vaccine.

smelly sock · 10-10-2020 05:30PM

kingshankly wrote: »

Must have been in a bad way for a pint lad

No i just enjoy one from time to time.

440Hertz · 10-10-2020 05:30PM

manniot2 wrote: »

You don’t think this lingering crises benefits politicians? When is the last time you heard someone complaining about our housing crises? Have you forgotten the political gold that Harris made out of this? He was hidden away by FG in the last election, nearly lost his seat...and now, a god to some people.

Fianna Fáil post 2008? They’ve essentially never really recovered. If this is mishandled, both of those parties will pay a long term electoral price.

Atlantic Dawn · 10-10-2020 05:31PM

Goldrickssan wrote: »

It's gonna be 1k plus

Proper senior hurling, the north beat us to it during the week

Deeper Blue · 10-10-2020 05:31PM

Ficheall wrote: »

But you feel people should believe the boards vaccine experts who have said we'll have a working vaccine before Christmas?

If by "we" you mean Ireland I'm not sure anyone thinks that. I think many believe there could be one approved either in the UK or the US by Christmas though.

Boggles · 10-10-2020 05:31PM

smelly sock wrote: »

No i just enjoy one from time to time.

You drank 3 pints in the rain.

That's hardcore.

smelly sock · 10-10-2020 05:32PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Proper senior hurling, the north beat us to it during the week

Thats it. Lets break some timber today.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 10-10-2020 05:32PM

Goldrickssan wrote: »

There's already a vaccine in use- UAE are rolling it out for front liners.

Offering it to teachers over there also. It's from China though...

A vaccine in the middle of trials approved and rushed into mass use.

I worry about that but hopefully it works for them.

Multipass · 10-10-2020 05:32PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I hope a vaccine will be found but the quickest I found referenced to date was 5 years. Of course for Covid there are a few vaccines that may be re-engineerined for purpose although I suspect they won't actually be a vaccine but more a regime to lessen the effects of Covid. Hopefully i'm wrong but if enough but in it's a return to normal.
Btw Pharma companies are getting vast quantities of public money to fund research.

Lessening the effects is not needed, unless it works for the tiny percent at risk - and those cases don’t seem to be included in the trials. What good is a vaccine that lessens a sniffle? Especially when it doesn’t affect you transmitting the virus to someone at risk?
People seem to think these vaccines prevent transmission, think again.

440Hertz · 10-10-2020 05:33PM

Speaking of vaccines - I had a flu vaccine booked for early October and couldn’t attend as we had a COVID test with results pending due to a family member with symptoms. Turned out to be negative but I had to postpone flu jab. Got a call today telling me it is now early November due to lack of stock.

MerlinSouthDub · 10-10-2020 05:33PM

440Hertz wrote: »

Fianna Fáil post 2008? They’ve essentially never really recovered. If this is mishandled, both of those parties will pay a long term electoral price.

One thing is for sure, Sinn Fein are making a completely balls of handling it up North. They surely should be insisting the pubs are closed at this stage. If FF/FG/Sinn Fein all mishandle it, perhaps we'll see a resurgence of Labour.

Thierry12 · 10-10-2020 05:34PM

Goldrickssan wrote: »

It's gonna be 1k plus

600 for sure

Goldrickssan · 10-10-2020 05:34PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

A vaccine in the middle of trials approved and rushed into mass use.

I worry about that but hopefully it works for them.

Any and all covid vaccines proposing a 2021 roll out are being rushed into mass use

Gadgetman496 · 10-10-2020 05:37PM

Dozens of COVID-19 vaccines are in development. Here are the ones to follow.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/health-and-human-body/human-diseases/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker-how-they-work-latest-developments-cvd/

440Hertz · 10-10-2020 05:38PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

One thing is for sure, Sinn Fein are making a completely balls of handling it up North. They surely should be insisting the pubs are closed at this stage. If FF/FG/Sinn Fein all mishandle it, perhaps we'll see a resurgence of Labour.

The north has issues with both a dysfunctional political system and it seems a large cohort not taking the restrictions very seriously, which hasn’t been helped by the weird lines the British Government took earlier in the pandemic.

I’m not sure what’s going on up there but they need to get it under control and fast, or it will be a huge problem. That case number in a 1.8m pop isn’t sustainable.

Plumbthedepths · 10-10-2020 05:38PM

Multipass wrote: »

Lessening the effects is not needed, unless it works for the tiny percent at risk - and those cases don’t seem to be included in the trials. What good is a vaccine that lessens a sniffle? Especially when it doesn’t affect you transmitting the virus to someone at risk?
People seem to think these vaccines prevent transmission, think again.

I probably have not expressed myself clearly any 'vaccine' that we are offered in the very near future imho is nothing more than a 'placebo' designed to assuage fear.

eagle eye · 10-10-2020 05:39PM

niallo27 wrote:

No they aren't. If the icu numbers are rising by 1 or 2 then 0 then 1 or 2, that is not exponential.

I said curve calculations. What you are doing right there is linear math.

Seamai · 10-10-2020 05:39PM

Quite a few doom merchants here must be disappointed when the daily case figures aren't as high as they were willing them to be.

Atlantic Dawn · 10-10-2020 05:40PM

Seamai wrote: »

Quite a few doom merchants here must be disappointed when the daily case figures aren't as high as they were willing them to be.

Especially when the country is locked down waiting for doom, it's almost as if it's a complete overkill reaction to the problem.

jaffa20 · 10-10-2020 05:41PM

Seamai wrote: »

Quite a few doom merchants here must be disappointed when the daily case figures aren't as high as they were willing them to be.

I agree, it's like some people are waiting for numbers to go up.

Oranage2 · 10-10-2020 05:42PM

Seamai wrote: »

Quite a few doom merchants here must be disappointed when the daily case figures aren't as high as they were willing them to be.

Figures aren't out yet, you should wait and see before

Santy2015 · 10-10-2020 05:43PM

I reckon about 1,233 cases today. Backlog cleared then. Probably 200 in Dublin with Cork hitting 200 as well

440Hertz · 10-10-2020 05:46PM

What’s the point in speculating on numbers like that?

We’ll know in a few minutes

It’s not the results of a football match. These figures are life / death and extremely unpleasant for many people who aren’t just a statistic on a fantasy football league table.

Wolf359f · 10-10-2020 05:47PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I hope a vaccine will be found but the quickest I found referenced to date was 5 years. Of course for Covid there are a few vaccines that may be re-engineerined for purpose although I suspect they won't actually be a vaccine but more a regime to lessen the effects of Covid. Hopefully i'm wrong but if enough believe in it it's a return to normal.
Btw Pharma companies are getting vast quantities of public money to fund research.

Swine flu vaccine was created and rolled out worldwide within a year. That I believe is the quickest.

smelly sock · 10-10-2020 05:49PM

jaffa20 wrote: »

I agree, it's like some people are waiting for numbers to go up.

A lot will be left with little to do when Covid is gone.

440Hertz · 10-10-2020 05:49PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

Swine flu vaccine was created and rolled out worldwide within a year. That I believe is the quickest.

Not for a novel virus that’s never been vaccinated for before though.

Swine flu was just another strain of influenza and the vaccine production was fairly straight forward.

Goldrickssan · 10-10-2020 05:51PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

Swine flu vaccine was created and rolled out worldwide within a year. That I believe is the quickest.

That wasn't something new.

The current record for the fastest vaccine is 4 years

Plumbthedepths · 10-10-2020 05:51PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

Swine flu vaccine was created and rolled out worldwide within a year. That I believe is the quickest.

https://www.thehealthsite.com/news/swine-flu-vaccine-was-developed-in-5-months-why-its-taking-so-long-to-find-a-shot-against-covid-19-758561/

caveat emptor · 10-10-2020 05:53PM

What’s the probability that 60 kids brought it into school independently?

https://twitter.com/tinkytaylor546/status/1314925565229649920?s=21

Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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