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Journalism and Cycling 2: the difficult second album

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,065 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Where are all the "freedom loving" anti mask people when debates like helmets come up ?

    It is remarkable how many right-wing, small-government, anti-nanny-state, light regulation people suddenly become pro-regulation when cycling is discussed. We've seen it from Renua in the past. I remember John McGurk brought onto Matt Cooper's show to argue the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,670 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    FG politician says something positive and reasonable about cycling shocker
    Ah now, fellow Galway FGer Ciaran Cannon TD is a keen cyclists and frequently pops up in pro-cycling events/comments


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,209 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    It is remarkable how many right-wing, small-government, anti-nanny-state, light regulation people suddenly become pro-regulation when cycling is discussed. We've seen it from Renua in the past. I remember John McGurk brought onto Matt Cooper's show to argue the case.
    Yeah Ive often wondered about that, its the same in Australia where they're completely corrupted by decades of Murdochs poison, always whining about the nanny state/red tape/interfering bureaucrats etc etc but then when it comes to cycling their hard man anti-nanny state politicians successfully campaign on pushing helmet laws through and now want mandatory insurance and registration for cyclists.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,865 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    hard men don't cycle though. hard men drive utes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,065 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    hard men don't cycle though. hard men drive utes.

    Sorry but that's a load of udder bullocks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,480 ✭✭✭McGrath5


    Brilliant video posted by "Not just bikes" on YT on the stereotype that exists against the "cyclist".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It is remarkable how many right-wing, small-government, anti-nanny-state, light regulation people suddenly become pro-regulation when cycling is discussed. We've seen it from Renua in the past. I remember John McGurk brought onto Matt Cooper's show to argue the case.

    No chance of us getting Waters & O'Doherty on the case for us then : )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,065 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    No chance of us getting Waters & O'Doherty on the case for us then : )

    Seeing as Waters went to jail rather than pay his parking fine in Dun Laoghaire, I don't think he'll be top of our list.

    I think Gemma has moaned about the lycra clad communists iirc. Or maybe that's just my recurring nightmare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Seeing as Waters went to jail rather than pay his parking fine in Dun Laoghaire, I don't think he'll be top of our list.

    I think Gemma has moaned about the lycra clad communists iirc. Or maybe that's just my recurring nightmare.

    Being berated by Gemma while dressed in a lycra Russian army uniform sounds like one of those very niche dominatrix fetishes. Like the time Max Mosley was caught with the Nazi girls


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    McGrath5 wrote: »
    Brilliant video posted by "Not just bikes" on YT on the stereotype that exists against the "cyclist".


    That came up on my feed earlier and I was going to post it here.

    Excellent video.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,373 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,037 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle



    Headline: Residents oppose cycle route
    Only a sentence in: Some residents oppose cycle lane
    Actual survey: Majority of local residents in favour of cycle lane


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,373 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Why do the IT hate public transport and cycling so much?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,091 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Why do the IT hate public transport and cycling so much?

    Maybe a subconscious bias towards wealth being the measure of the man and therefore expensive private vehicles, lavish properties etc should be the goal of everyone and anything which counters that shines a light on the vacuous nature of such motivation?

    Too deep?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Type 17


    ...Too deep?

    Not at all. The problem is that some IT readers people don't think deeply enough, and perceive anything other than their lifestyle as inferior, when in fact, many differences are just that: different - not inferior, just different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,065 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Or maybe just because car companies are one of the few remaining big advertising spenders?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Why do the IT hate public transport and cycling so much?

    Because most of their journalists and readers drive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,797 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Why do the IT hate public transport and cycling so much?

    The IT loves Cycling.....isn't there Greenways and Cycle Buses and Sam Bennett....

    Its just cyclists they dont like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Tombo2001 wrote: »
    The IT loves Cycling.....isn't there Greenways and Cycle Buses and Sam Bennett....

    Its just cyclists they dont like.

    They like bikes when it's off the road not affecting the commute


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,480 ✭✭✭McGrath5


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    They like bikes when it's off the road not affecting the commute

    Exactly, so long as cyclists don't "get in the way" of John & Mary driving their Tucson through the Phoenix park and into the city centre everyday.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,373 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I would imagine with this project, as soon as it's up and running, counsellors and maybe even TDs will be up in arms saying the traffic is gridlocked around Merrion and Ballsbridge, and of course if there was no bike lane there would be no traffic problems. I hope this doesn't lead to it only being a trial, but I wouldn't be too confident.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,136 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Rise in under-25s video calling when driving, says RAC
    The RAC motor organisation claims they've got figures suggesting one in five under-25s are using FaceTime, SnapChat or WhatApp at the wheel.

    Edit: should have made it clear that this is in the UK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I would imagine with this project, as soon as it's up and running, counsellors and maybe even TDs will be up in arms saying the traffic is gridlocked around Merrion and Ballsbridge, and of course if there was no bike lane there would be no traffic problems. I hope this doesn't lead to it only being a trial, but I wouldn't be too confident.

    A local counsellor in Limerick has
    "urged the council to scrap the Shannon bridge cycle lane and return to the free flow of traffic on the bridge"

    Free flow my arse that bridge was backed up way off the back of the bridge long before the cycle lane


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,714 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Ah here, it's mental at this stage.

    I was running last night in a village, cars doing approx 50kph.
    6 drivers in a row looking at their phones!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Ah here, it's mental at this stage.

    I was running last night in a village, cars doing approx 50kph.
    6 drivers in a row looking at their phones!!

    Phones have become almost instinctual
    I used manage pubs and you could see some of the staff just couldn't comprehend the idea that finishing your text was rude with a customer looking at you. Same goes for the customers trying to texts and order so ide say if you pointed this out to the driver they would be almost surprised the phone was in their hand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,670 ✭✭✭✭zell12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,670 ✭✭✭✭zell12




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,136 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    zell12 wrote: »
    So many of the replies are the usual anti-cycling crap. It's funny how some people react to a safety plea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,176 ✭✭✭Idleater


    So many of the replies are the usual anti-cycling crap. It's funny how some people react to a safety plea.

    I was wondering the same, the tweet tags fine Gael and road safety week. Are these people actively seeking out cycling promotion using sentiment analysis?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    So many of the replies are the usual anti-cycling crap. It's funny how some people react to a safety plea.

    Any degree of logic and rational thinking should inform people that "cyclists" are as diverse a group of people as "motorists" are.

    But then, logic and rational thinking simply doesn't enter into the mindset with these people.


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