Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

Hardyn wrote: »

Youre adding 2+2 and insisting it's 5. SARS was eradicated. After that funding dried up as the vaccine became redundant. MERS only has a handful of cases every year so it's not regarded as a priority. If they both had the same funding and effort as COVID we'd have a vaccine for both.

No I'm dealing in fact and you're dealing in presumptions.

Boggles wrote: »

But but but it's not the schools?

It isn't. But don't let the worry you about getting your pints.

Blondini wrote: »

Quick, tell the experts! They're thinking about closing schools for no reason!

QUICK!!

Shouldn't you be teaching a class right now?

Boggles wrote: »

Some people are obsessed with pointing out that other countries are not obsessed, but then when you even take the merest of glances at other countries news agencies, turns out they are pretty fúcking obsessed too.

Once in a generation pandemic that has fundamentally changed how we live our lives and consequences of not changing will do that I suppose.

But there is some relief, here is Tom with sports.

"the entire squad has tested positive for covid"

Ah shít. Fúck you Tom. :mad:

So, I checked this out to see...these are there main stories in todays newspapers

Le Figaro
Emmanuel Macron va accueillir Sophie Pétronin à son retour en France
Emmanuel Macron will welcome Sophie Pétronin on her return to France

Frankfurther Allgemeine
Diese Städte sind schon smart – und diese nicht
These cities are already smart - and these aren't

The Telegraph
Sunak to announce further job support as recovery slows

TheLocal.se
'Loved by people, hated by the system': An immigrant's tale of Sweden

Ansa in English (Italian news)
Two Italian hostages released in Mali

El Pais
PM to hold a Cabinet meeting to declare state of alarm in Madrid

Αυγή
Δίκη Χρυσής Αυγής / Η ώρα της αλήθειας, τα ελαφρυντικά θα κρίνουν τις ποινές
Golden Dawn Trial / Truth Time, mitigating circumstances will judge sentences

Okay, this is not an exhaustive list. And certainly, all newspapers have some stories on Coronavirus within the paper. It's big headlines in Spain.

However, nothing like the obsession we see here in Ireland.

Hardyn wrote: »

We can do this all day. Just because you misinterpreted it doesn't mean its wrong.

I didn't misinterpret anything. Its ironic that you think my stating of facts is 2+2=5 but your assumptions add up..

Deusexmachina wrote: »

So, I checked this out to see...these are there main stories in todays newspapers

Le Figaro
Emmanuel Macron va accueillir Sophie Pétronin à son retour en France
Emmanuel Macron will welcome Sophie Pétronin on her return to France

Frankfurther Allgemeine
Diese Städte sind schon smart – und diese nicht
These cities are already smart - and these aren't

The Telegraph
Sunak to announce further job support as recovery slows

TheLocal.se
'Loved by people, hated by the system': An immigrant's tale of Sweden

Ansa in English (Italian news)
Two Italian hostages released in Mali

El Pais
PM to hold a Cabinet meeting to declare state of alarm in Madrid

Αυγή
Δίκη Χρυσής Αυγής / Η ώρα της αλήθειας, τα ελαφρυντικά θα κρίνουν τις ποινές
Golden Dawn Trial / Truth Time, mitigating circumstances will judge sentences

Okay, this is not an exhaustive list. And certainly, all newspapers have some stories on Coronavirus within the paper. It's big headlines in Spain.

However, nothing like the obsession we see here in Ireland.

I just fact checked one at random, because I couldn't be arséd.

4 stories popped straight up on the Swedish one about Covid.

IT's a big deal, world wide. Accept it or move on.

Deleted User wrote: »

Lots of posters here seem to believe there is an opinion among others that there is zero transmission in schools. The opinion actually is that schools don't make it worse not that it doesn't happen. When they argue the first point, they are essentially arguing against a point no one is making.

Of course closing the schools at level 3/ 4 is going to make a difference, as so many of the alternative activities that are available at level 1/2 are not there. Closing the schools at level 1/2 is pointless however as the activity goes elsewhere, as evidenced by the August vs September growth rate being the same.

The question to answer though is do we want to maintain the schools open, and the trends in Dublin suggest level 3 is starting to work without closing the schools. So, if in 2 weeks the Dublin trend is continuing it would suggest we will get the desired outcome through Level 3 only

So its spreading through schools..... But thats not making things worse

Hope it's ok to ask this here, I haven't really been on this forum much...

Just read something about the false positive rate with the PCR test they're using (sent to me by someone who's very anti-mask, anti-lockdown etc, so I'm not sure of it's objectivity) - that the rate of false positives is at least 0.8% (possibly up to a couple of percent). So my first question is, is there a reliable source as to what the actual rate of false positives is?

Moving on, I see our positive rate from the 90k tests we did last week, is up around 4% (having increased from closer to 3% in recent weeks).

If the false positive rate is say 0.8%, does that mean that it's quite likely that 20% of the positive tests in the last week are false positives (0.8%/4%)? Or do people that test positive, get a second test, and the final number we see is after eliminating the majority of the false positives from the first batch of positives... I don't know anyone who has had it recently, to ask them...

barneystinson wrote: »

Hope it's ok to ask this here, I haven't really been on this forum much...

Just read something about the false positive rate with the PCR test they're using (sent to me by someone who's very anti-mask, anti-lockdown etc, so I'm not sure of it's objectivity) - that the rate of false positives is at least 0.8% (possibly up to a couple of percent). So my first question is, is there a reliable source as to what the actual rate of false positives is?

Moving on, I see our positive rate from the 90k tests we did last week, is up around 4% (having increased from closer to 3% in recent weeks).

If the false positive rate is say 0.8%, does that mean that it's quite likely that 20% of the positive tests in the last week are false positives (0.8%/4%)? Or do people that test positive, get a second test, and the final number we see is after eliminating the majority of the false positives from the first batch of positives... I don't know anyone who has had it recently, to ask them...

As described a few weeks ago in one of the press conferences.

The vast majority of false positives and a small number of real positives show up as low positives on the test. These low positives get retested.

So the majority of false positives are eliminated.