Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

Eric Cartman · 08-10-2020 04:49PM

Limpy wrote: »

I hope patrons and publican's remember how this government F'ed you when we get another election. Same goes for the Airline, hospitality sector. Oh and the Health sector.

if ever there was a time to start an economically conservative pro business party (that keeps its mouth firmly shut on vaccines, abortions, Catholicism, leaving the EU, 5G and masks) its right now.

there is no alternative to the government that isn't worse for the economy than the current pandemic.

El_Duderino 09 · 08-10-2020 05:08PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

if ever there was a time to start an economically conservative pro business party (that keeps its mouth firmly shut on vaccines, abortions, Catholicism, leaving the EU, 5G and masks) its right now.

there is no alternative to the government that isn't worse for the economy than the current pandemic.

This pro business party would presumably be pretty nonchalant about the spread of the virus and the resultant deaths as long as business stays open. The only difference between a "pro-business" party and the ones we have right now are the pro-business party would keep the economy open at this stage and the virus would spread faster and then they would have to shut things down a few weeks later but with much higher numbers of infected and dead. They're not getting my vote

PTH2009 · 08-10-2020 05:10PM

GazzaL wrote: »

How nice would a quiet meal and a pint be after a hard week of work?! What a shame.

You can still do it but you'd have to freeze your bollocks off outside

Also trying to find somewhere could be troublesome

Limpy · 08-10-2020 05:13PM

GazzaL wrote: »

How nice would a quiet meal and a pint be after a hard week of work?! What a shame.

If you pick up a Cold from drinking a cold pint outside in the mist you will also have to take 2 week's off or get a covid test.

nacho libre · 08-10-2020 05:31PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Govt should be legislating f all for a virus with such a low death rate.

https://twitter.com/FatEmperor/status/1314159651664076805?s=20

Interesting.
so is it:
(a) the virus in this second wave has become less severe
(b) the virus has not become less severe, rather treatments have improved
(c) the reason the death rate is not soaring is because a lot of those that were vunerable passed earlier in the year
or (d) In a couple of weeks, with 159 now currently in hospital, deaths will be considerably higher.

larva · 08-10-2020 05:35PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Because after a couple of Stellas all sense of social distancing is abandoned.

Forget social distancing, isnt Stella affectionately known as the wife-beater in some corners of this world?

Allinall · 08-10-2020 05:35PM

MOH wrote: »

No, the extremely obvious thing to do would have been to make some effort to ask patient 0 in each home cluster where they've been recently and try to build up a view of where they might have contracted it. Which is what pretty much everyone I know assumed was happening, until NPHET accidentally let it slip last week that they weren't bothering (ironically as part of their justification for shutting pubs).

We've repeatedly heard that pubs needed to stay shut based on "best international evidence" despite the fact that everywhere in Europe has had them open all summer.

Presumably best international evidence didn't mandate actually tracking how the virus is spreading, particularly when cases were low and businesses were gradually reopening; making any effort to enforce quarantine on international arrivals; increasing ICU availability; investigating early clusters like meat-packing plants and putting measure into place to prevent re-occurence; developing a coherent long-term plan and sticking to it, as opposed to rewriting it at first use.

You could go into level 5 restrictions from now until January, and by April we'd be back where we are now.

The whole point of the first lockdown was to buy time for the government and health authorities to establish protocols and infrastructure to deal with future waves. They've both failed utterly to get remotely near doing so. And now we're back to Tony telling everyone that it's all down to us again (while Leo snipes from the sidelines at the mess his government got us into).

He's right though - it is all down to us. Because there's no way those muppets are doing anything to help.

Like this?

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-seventy-cases-in-cork-traced-to-local-pubs-and-restaurants-in-recent-weeks-1.4366678?mode=amp

hmmm · 08-10-2020 05:36PM

nacho libre wrote: »

Interesting.
so is it:
(a) the virus in this second wave has become less severe
(b) the virus has not become less severe, rather treatments have improved
(c) the reason the death rate is not soaring is because a lot of those that were vunerable passed earlier in the year
or (d) In a couple of weeks, with 159 now currently in hospital, deaths will be considerably higher.

We're testing 15,000 a day now. We were able to test 2,000 back in March.

It's the same virus and just as dangerous - we are just able to find more of the people who have been infected.

hynesie08 · 08-10-2020 05:37PM

larva wrote: »

Forget social distancing, isnt Stella affectionately known as the wife-beater in some corners of this world?

Yeah, it's so cheap in the UK it's unbelievable. It's actually considered a premium lager in the USA though.....

larva · 08-10-2020 05:41PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Yeah, it's so cheap in the UK it's unbelievable. It's actually considered a premium lager in the USA though.....

Cause of and solution to all of lifes problems?

Beechwoodspark · 08-10-2020 05:41PM

Limpy wrote: »

I hope patrons and publican's remember how this government F'ed you when we get another election. Same goes for the Airline, hospitality sector. Oh and the Health sector.

Limply

Public health is more important than the economy in general

Beechwoodspark · 08-10-2020 05:43PM

Just on Stella

Witnessed a middle aged level headed lad whip out his flute at the bar after 3 -yes 3- pints of Stella

He seemed to think it would impress people

Open the Pubs · 08-10-2020 05:45PM

Early days but barely any pubs locally are even going to attempt the 15 outdoors thing. Not possible with weather, many don't have suitable smoking area or space.

Are Hotels resident only now too?

hetuzozaho · 08-10-2020 05:57PM

Open the Pubs wrote: »

Early days but barely any pubs locally are even going to attempt the 15 outdoors thing. Not possible with weather, many don't have suitable smoking area or space.

Are Hotels resident only now too?

Their outside areas are for all from what I've seen round me.

08-10-2020 06:16PM

Imagine actually be in favour of a curfew. In a ****ing modern democratic country

08-10-2020 06:17PM

GazzaL wrote: »

How nice would a quiet meal and a pint be after a hard week of work?! What a shame.

Nice take away and plenty of bottles? Do the job until the virus is gone.

mountgomery burns · 08-10-2020 06:17PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Just on Stella

Witnessed a middle aged level headed lad whip out his flute at the bar after 3 -yes 3- pints of Stella

He seemed to think it would impress people

That really has nothing to do with beer he was drinking to be honest.

Many people have drank a lot more in one sitting and had no compulsion to do that

08-10-2020 06:20PM

mountgomery burns wrote: »

That really has nothing to do with beer he was drinking to be honest.

Many people have drank a lot more in one sitting and had no compulsion to do that

Exactly. A gob****e is a gob****e regardless.

3 pints of Stella wouldn’t make anyone do that that normally wouldn’t anyway, it was a really silly suggestion.

08-10-2020 06:21PM

AdamD wrote: »

Imagine actually be in favour of a curfew. In a ****ing modern democratic country

When you have enough idiots who won’t respects guidelines and restrictions by choice then they have to be forced and a strict curfew is a very good start.

08-10-2020 06:31PM

Matthew Fat Virtue wrote: »

When you have enough idiots who won’t respects guidelines and restrictions by choice then they have to be forced and a strict curfew is a very good start.

In case you haven't noticed, we don't live in Stalinist Russia. A ridiculous notion that could never come to pass in a civilised society, thankfully. As the ballot box is influential, our incumbent government would find themselves out on their ear in the next election. If you want to embrace a modern dictatorship, up sticks to North Korea.

ginoginelli · 08-10-2020 06:39PM

Time to get real lads. The experimental reopening of the pubs has been a complete and utter disaster. Another few weeks and the hospitals would have collapsed. The outcome was never really in question to anybody with their full senses. As our cmo said, "this virus loves alcohol". Put people in indoor spaces, without masks, limited ventilation, and lowered inhibitions, and you have the perfect storm for a superspreading event.

Pubs are not safe at the moment. They haven't been since march and won't be until we get this virus under control.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 08-10-2020 06:43PM

ginoginelli wrote: »

Time to get real lads. The experimental reopening of the pubs has been a complete and utter disaster.

Source?

You sure it's not the schools and colleges?

Naaaaah, blame the pubs.

Hi Tony.

cadaliac · 08-10-2020 06:47PM

ginoginelli wrote: »

Time to get real lads. The experimental reopening of the pubs has been a complete and utter disaster. Another few weeks and the hospitals would have collapsed. The outcome was never really in question to anybody with their full senses. As our cmo said, "this virus loves alcohol". Put people in indoor spaces, without masks, limited ventilation, and lowered inhibitions, and you have the perfect storm for a superspreading event.

Pubs are not safe at the moment. They haven't been since march and won't be until we get this virus under control.

What absolute bollocks.

08-10-2020 06:50PM

ginoginelli wrote: »

Time to get real lads. The experimental reopening of the pubs has been a complete and utter disaster. Another few weeks and the hospitals would have collapsed. The outcome was never really in question to anybody with their full senses. As our cmo said, "this virus loves alcohol". Put people in indoor spaces, without masks, limited ventilation, and lowered inhibitions, and you have the perfect storm for a superspreading event.

Pubs are not safe at the moment. They haven't been since march and won't be until we get this virus under control.

Especially the six months most pubs were bolted shut :rolleyes:

Would you ever get real and take your unbalanced agenda elsewhere.

08-10-2020 06:53PM

Deleted User wrote: »

In case you haven't noticed, we don't live in Stalinist Russia. A ridiculous notion that could never come to pass in a civilised society, thankfully. As the ballot box is influential, our incumbent government would find themselves out on their ear in the next election. If you want to embrace a modern dictatorship, up sticks to North Korea.

The UK, US and Spain are not civilised (along with plenty of others)?

hynesie08 · 08-10-2020 06:59PM

Matthew Fat Virtue wrote: »

The UK, US and Spain are not civilised (along with plenty of others)?

They have a curfew? Or restricted opening hours......

Beechwoodspark · 08-10-2020 07:05PM

mountgomery burns wrote: »

That really has nothing to do with beer he was drinking to be honest.

Many people have drank a lot more in one sitting and had no compulsion to do that

I kind of Agree but I think the strong percentage disinhibited him to do that.

Id speculate it’s a mix of a few things

Bit of an odd character to start with
Recent marriage break up - emotionally all over the place
Tiredness (it was a Friday after a busy week)
No food consumed since breakfast
Not a big drinker usually
3 strong continental lagers in quick succession

Suckit · 08-10-2020 07:17PM

and probably a half bottle of whiskey before that.
It's only 4.8%
Tiredness/stress etc, probably had more effect.

freak scence · 08-10-2020 07:17PM

ginoginelli wrote: »

Time to get real lads. The experimental reopening of the pubs has been a complete and utter disaster. Another few weeks and the hospitals would have collapsed. The outcome was never really in question to anybody with their full senses. As our cmo said, "this virus loves alcohol". Put people in indoor spaces, without masks, limited ventilation, and lowered inhibitions, and you have the perfect storm for a superspreading event.

Pubs are not safe at the moment. They haven't been since march and won't be until we get this virus under control.

absolute crap

hynesie08 · 08-10-2020 07:19PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I kind of Agree but I think the strong percentage disinhibited him to do that.

Id speculate it’s a mix of a few things

Bit of an odd character to start with
Recent marriage break up - emotionally all over the place
Tiredness (it was a Friday after a busy week)
No food consumed since breakfast
Not a big drinker usually
3 strong continental lagers in quick succession

It was you wasn't it?

Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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