The Great Reset

King Mob · 08-10-2020 12:38am

Gianni Scrawny Steroid wrote: »

As for anyone else out there with a slight clue about practical technologies, policy, reports and so on, this is a fairly simple sceanrio to expect well <20yrs.

Yes, anyone else who subscribes to Gianni Scrawny Steroid's cyberpunk/religious theory please speak up.

JJayoo · 08-10-2020 1:04am

#lizardpeople'slivesmatter

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-10-2020 2:37am

The non-lizard (lizard?) presentations from the WEF so far are excellent in clarity, technical detail and very down to earth.

Between detailed diagrams and simple bullet point statements of factual intention, reckon it's only uneducated jokers who will misconstrue, or dress 'The Great Reset' starting 2021 (a blockchain, systematic and enhanced, urgent push to the '4th Industrial Reveloution') as anything else, but exactly that.

Welcome to 2030 type evoloution, all by the end of 2022.
Welcome to hard science, not skygods, not sci-fi.

King Mob · 08-10-2020 4:57am

Gianni Scrawny Steroid wrote: »

Between detailed diagrams and simple bullet point statements of factual intention, .

It when we ask for these to back up the bizarre sci fi things you claim, you suddenly start telling us that they aren't stating their intention.

Dohnjoe · 08-10-2020 11:10am

Gianni Scrawny Steroid wrote: »

Welcome to hard science, not skygods, not sci-fi.

Lol, you left out the following..

No fearmongering about technology, no local GP's secretly putting digital "tattoo's" on us, no hidden agenda's behind vaccines, no pandemic being used as a pretext for nefarious plans to "enslave" us, no "evil mastermind" philanthropists, no potential ID systems with "secret" ulterior motives, etc..

Dionaibh · 08-10-2020 11:36am

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Lol, you left out the following..

No fearmongering about technology, no local GP's secretly putting digital "tattoo's" on us, no hidden agenda's behind vaccines, no pandemic being used as a pretext for nefarious plans to "enslave" us, no "evil mastermind" philanthropists, no potential ID systems with "secret" ulterior motives, etc..

Dohnjoe, what do you think is going to happen in Davos in September 2021? In the UK they are advertising the Great Reset at bus stops.

Do you think it'll just be a few recommendations for governments to act on if they want to?

08-10-2020 11:43am

Dionaibh wrote: »

Dohnjoe, what do you think is going to happen in Davos in September 2021? In the UK they are advertising the Great Reset at bus stops.

Do you think it'll just be a few recommendations for governments to act on if they want to?

You have yet to actually give proof of horrific changes that relate to this... Also can't find this bus stop your're referring to.

Dionaibh · 08-10-2020 11:59am

Deleted User wrote: »

You have yet to actually give proof of horrific changes that relate to this... Also can't find this bus stop your're referring to.

Yes, I have said that I don't have proof, but it's clear they are going to be monumental given how heavily they are promoting it.

https://twitter.com/BreesAnna/status/1313826871017172992

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-10-2020 1:11pm

Some folks here are giving the impression that 'The Great Reset' isn't as it's clear title and twin-summit suggests: a reset, or indeed not even great.

Even as a singular (economic only) measure, Pushing the 4th Great Industrial Reveloution, at such great gusto is food for thought.

The centrepeice of a new Blockchain Monitoring/Control System (outside of this economic use), will drive Environmental, Social, Governance, Services, ID & Digital Personas.
Not to mention sub-categories of: education, jobs, lifestyle, health, transport, computing, energy, climate, insurace, migration and new value creation.

King Mob · 08-10-2020 1:22pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

but it's clear they are going to be monumental given how heavily they are promoting it.

A bus stop ad and some spam?

Why does this make it clear that it's going to be "monumental"?
What do you mean by "monumental" exactly?

Are you going to completely ignore my hanging questions?
If so, why are you ignoring them?

08-10-2020 2:22pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

Yes, I have said that I don't have proof, but it's clear they are going to be monumental given how heavily they are promoting it.

So once again, that website is created by grassroots group and has nothing to do with the WEF. A handful of bus shelters with the ad from a group with 600 followers on Twitter is not significant or expensive for that matter. You haven't even given any examples of potential nefarious stuff they're planning. You've just been linking random stuff to it.

Dionaibh · 08-10-2020 3:58pm

Deleted User wrote: »

So once again, that website is created by grassroots group and has nothing to do with the WEF. A handful of bus shelters with the ad from a group with 600 followers on Twitter is not significant or expensive for that matter. You haven't even given any examples of potential nefarious stuff they're planning. You've just been linking random stuff to it.

Sorry, I'm confused. Is the grassroot group's Great Reset different from WEF's one?

Dohnjoe · 08-10-2020 4:26pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

Dohnjoe, what do you think is going to happen in Davos in September 2021? In the UK they are advertising the Great Reset at bus stops.

Do you think it'll just be a few recommendations for governments to act on if they want to?

Members are going to discuss the pandemic, it's affects, it's impacts and put forward potential suggestions/guidelines/recommendations on how to move forward. The pandemic has had a huge impact on industries and economies, a global forum is required to harmonise ideas and work together to solve the issues

Paranoid and deluded (and mental) people on the internet have decided that it's something else run by the lizardpeople/UN/Bilderberg/NWO/Jews/etc/etc/etc who will come up with whatever nefarious global plan that appeals to their paranoia of authority

08-10-2020 4:28pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

Sorry, I'm confused. Is the grassroot group's Great Reset different from WEF's one?

They have no association with the WEF. So while they may share similar goals of reducing emissions, they're effectively the same as any environmental group.

Dionaibh · 08-10-2020 4:40pm

Deleted User wrote: »

They have no association with the WEF. So while they may share similar goals of reducing emissions, they're effectively the same as any environmental group.

Thank you. It's strange that they would be allowed to use 'The Great Reset' since WEF are already using it.

Dionaibh · 08-10-2020 4:41pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Members are going to discuss the pandemic, it's affects, it's impacts and put forward potential suggestions/guidelines/recommendations on how to move forward. The pandemic has had a huge impact on industries and economies, a global forum is required to harmonise ideas and work together to solve the issues

Paranoid and deluded (and mental) people on the internet have decided that it's something else run by the lizardpeople/UN/Bilderberg/NWO/Jews/etc/etc/etc who will come up with whatever nefarious global plan that appeals to their paranoia of authority

Thanks. But Schwab has said he wants stakeholder capitalism. That would be a big change.

You don't foresee a digital currency? That's another concern people have.

Dohnjoe · 08-10-2020 5:03pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

Thanks. But Schwab has said he wants stakeholder capitalism. That would be a big change.

Again, its next to impossible to believe you aren't taking the absolute mick with these posts

You don't foresee a digital currency? That's another concern people have.

We already use a digital currency every day. It's not a concern.

Dionaibh · 08-10-2020 5:33pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Again, its next to impossible to believe you aren't taking the absolute mick with these posts

We already use a digital currency every day. It's not a concern.

But the fear is abolishing cash altogether and having just a digital currency.

King Mob · 08-10-2020 5:38pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

But the fear is abolishing cash altogether and having just a digital currency.

Sorry, I thought the fear was they they were going to force everyone to use health passports and get vaccinations?

Have you given up on this belief now you've accepted it's silly and you can't defend it?

Dionaibh · 08-10-2020 5:50pm

King Mob wrote: »

Sorry, I thought the fear was they they were going to force everyone to use health passports and get vaccinations?

Have you given up on this belief now you've accepted it's silly and you can't defend it?

Health passports are a reality and in an article in FT yesterday about the Common Pass passport it says it will be able to show proof of vaccination.

Dohnjoe · 08-10-2020 5:51pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

But the fear is abolishing cash altogether and having just a digital currency.

We are choosing to use physical cash less and less. In just a few years it's estimated that in countries like the UK only 10% of payments (or less) will be made with physical cash.

It will be around for a long time but eventually it will probably become pretty much obsolete, like payphones.

Dohnjoe · 08-10-2020 5:52pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

Health passports are a reality

There's nothing wrong with a health passport

There's everything wrong with your portrayed imagination of what it is.

Dionaibh · 08-10-2020 5:56pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

There's nothing wrong with a health passport

There's everything wrong with your portrayed imagination of what it is.

As long as it's limited to flying, while still horrible, it wouldn't be as bad as having to use it to go to the shop, to a restaurant, or to a football match.

You're not really free if you have to prove you're not a bag of germs to do anything. It's similar to the social credit system in China.

Dionaibh · 08-10-2020 5:58pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

We are choosing to use physical cash less and less. In just a few years it's estimated that in countries like the UK only 10% of payments (or less) will be made with physical cash.

It will be around for a long time but eventually it will probably become pretty much obsolete, like payphones.

I agree that it's on the way out in the West, but I think it's important that it not be got rid of. It's important to have cash. Imagine a digital currency that could be blocked or switched off by the bank.

King Mob · 08-10-2020 5:58pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

Health passports are a reality

But when you were asked questions about them, you ran away and ignored the questions. So your claims about them are nonsense.
I thought you accepted this when you once again dodged the questions. But it seems now you are just trying to pretend otherwise for some reason.

Why do you believe you theories when they are all nonsense? Why do you believe them when you know they are all nonsense and you have to be so evasive about difficult questions?

antiskeptic · 11-10-2020 6:17pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

Since about June the World Economic Forum has been heavily promoting what they are calling The Great Reset (https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/). They plan to reset the planet. The head of WEF, Klaus Schwab co-authored a book entitled The Great Reset (https://www.amazon.co.uk/COVID-19-Great-Reset-Klaus-Schwab/dp/2940631123/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2WK0KDQLEC2DY&dchild=1&keywords=the+great+reset+klaus&qid=1599836414&sprefix=the+great+reset%2Caps%2C172&sr=8-1). One of the reviews of the book on Amazon quotes from the book. It makes for grim reading, in my opinion.

The conspiracy, according to what I've read, is that COVID-19 is being used a cover for ushering in a techno tyranny and sustainability on steroids. I have heard people argue that countries are deliberately destroying their economies so that they can be rebuilt according to the vision WEF has for the world.

What are your thoughts on The Great Reset?

I find it curious that at this remove we don't appear to have dog-in-the-street level knowledge as to:

- how deadly is corona virus to a healthy enough individual.

- following from the above, what proportion of the population are being protected from life threatening effects by lockdown measures

- how many people have had corona virus to date?

- do people develop antibodies and if so do those antibodies persist and lend immunity (measuring from day one we would have 8 months data).

How can we embark on an economy-destroying policy like lockdown unless we know the extent of the problem we face?

Mildly related to Conspiracy Theory. You can bet your bottom dollar that some folk would love the world economy to tank and hoover up everything for a song. So a 'perhaps' conspiracy'.

We seem to be led by WHO guidelines. In which case who the hell are WHO and can they be guided to promote a particular agenda

Dionaibh · 11-10-2020 6:28pm

Sky News Australia covers the Great Reset: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeykREAlYSg

I have no idea how people can claim this 'reset' is nothing to worry about.

Dohnjoe · 11-10-2020 6:29pm

antiskeptic wrote: »

I find it curious that at this remove we don't appear to have dog-in-the-street level knowledge as to:

We do have information

- how deadly is corona virus to a healthy enough individual.

We have breakdowns per age, per country.

e.g.
https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid

- how many people have had corona virus to date?

Depends on if it's by gross positive tests (can be determined), or total positive cases (can only be estimated)

- do people develop antibodies and if so do those antibodies persist and lend immunity (measuring from day one we would have 8 months data).

There are cases where people who have had Corona have been reinfected.

How can we embark on an economy-destroying policy like lockdown unless we know the extent of the problem we face?

As mentioned, we have a lot of info and data. It's relatively easy to reference and read up about.

Dohnjoe · 11-10-2020 6:33pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

Sky News Australia covers the Great Reset: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeykREAlYSg

I have no idea how people can claim this 'reset' is nothing to worry about.

I watched a few minutes of that. It's a nonsense opinion piece from a trash right-wing news station.

Every single time there is any global meeting on anything, all the crazies and conspiracy theorists and fringe TV pundits go batshiat over it, nothing happens. They wait for the next one, then go batshiat over that. Rinse, repeat. The record never changes, the NWO never takes over, the UN never takes over, totalitarian facists don't take over.

RandomViewer · 11-10-2020 6:34pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

But the fear is abolishing cash altogether and having just a digital currency.

someone dug up an Eir cable around here in January,no ATMs , no card scanners at the shop till, out for around 4 hours, keeping some cash on you has its merits

Dionaibh · 11-10-2020 6:50pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

I watched a few minutes of that. It's a nonsense opinion piece from a trash right-wing news station.

Every single time there is any global meeting on anything, all the crazies and conspiracy theorists and fringe TV pundits go batshiat over it, nothing happens. They wait for the next one, then go batshiat over that. Rinse, repeat. The record never changes, the NWO never takes over, the UN never takes over, totalitarian facists don't take over.

Don't you think it's a bit different this time round considering how long Schwab has been planning his reset? He wrote a book about it and another book about his 4th Industrial Revolution. He's very serious about his reset. They've even started advertising it at bus stops. They're going all out with their reset.

Dionaibh · 11-10-2020 6:50pm

RandomViewer wrote: »

someone dug up an Eir cable around here in January,no ATMs , no card scanners at the shop till, out for around 4 hours, keeping some cash on you has its merits

Cash is very important.

Dionaibh · 11-10-2020 6:57pm

https://www.spectator.com.au/2020/10/dangerous-elites-planning-the-great-reset/

An article in the Spectator Australia

Dohnjoe · 11-10-2020 7:10pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

Don't you think it's a bit different this time round

No.

11-10-2020 8:43pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

Don't you think it's a bit different this time round considering how long Schwab has been planning his reset? He wrote a book about it and another book about his 4th Industrial Revolution. He's very serious about his reset. They've even started advertising it at bus stops. They're going all out with their reset.

So, as you've already been told, the handful of signs at some bus stops in England have nothing to do with the WEF. You've transformed it into a nefarious plot. I'm browsing the WEF right now, they have detailed info on what they're looking into in terms of how the economic world is likely to change. Includes addressing energy, air pollution, systemic racism, investing in emerging markets, improving infrastructure. Care to point out some of the horrific propositions on their website? Rather than going to alternative sources..

Dionaibh · 11-10-2020 8:50pm

Deleted User wrote: »

So, as you've already been told, the handful of signs at some bus stops in England have nothing to do with the WEF. You've transformed it into a nefarious plot. I'm browsing the WEF right now, they have detailed info on what they're looking into in terms of how the economic world is likely to change. Includes addressing energy, air pollution, systemic racism, investing in emerging markets, improving infrastructure. Care to point out some of the horrific propositions on their website? Rather than going to alternative sources..

But I don't understand how there are two great resets. What's the other great reset about? The one being advertised at bus stops.

Listen to Schwab and he talks about technology redefining what it means to be human, about implantable chips. There's a video on YouTube that analyses the Great Reset. The picture it paints is very scary.

11-10-2020 8:55pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

But I don't understand how there are two great resets. What's the other great reset about? The one being advertised at bus stops.

Listen to Schwab and he talks about technology redefining what it means to be human, about implantable chips. There's a video on YouTube that analyses the Great Reset. The picture it paints is very scary.

It's a random grassroots group focused on the environment so they're piggybacking on the term more than anything. You still haven't linked to any WEF content but are instead referencing things with zero context... FYI, technology has always redefined humanity, that's been the case since creating fire..

growleaves · 11-10-2020 8:59pm

King Mob wrote: »

Sorry, I thought the fear was they they were going to force everyone to use health passports and get vaccinations?

Have you given up on this belief now you've accepted it's silly and you can't defend it?

There are people in the covid forum demanding that people should have to produce vaccination certificates before they enter pubs, restaurants etc.

The appetite for mass surveillance is there among many.

4068ac1elhodqr · 11-10-2020 9:00pm

Deleted User wrote: »

So, as you've already been told, the handful of signs at some bus stops in England have nothing to do with the WEF. You've transformed it into a nefarious plot. I'm browsing the WEF right now, they have detailed info on what they're looking into in terms of how the economic world is likely to change. Includes addressing energy, air pollution, systemic racism, investing in emerging markets, improving infrastructure. Care to point out some of the horrific propositions on their website? Rather than going to alternative sources..

A somewhat unusual and strange very small selecton of niche topics to mention.
To quote the organiser of The Great Reset:

The world must act jointly and swiftly to revamp all aspects of our societies and economies, from education to social contracts and working conditions. Every country, from the United States to China, must participate, and every industry, from oil and gas to tech, must be transformed. In short, we need a “Great Reset”

Yes it's an economic 'grand' reset, but it's also a reset by association of 'society' as a whole (in every aspect), indeed nearly every fassett of daily life from education, healthcare, transport, welfare, public services and so on.

It's also the firing pistol of the great new 4th Industrial Reveloution (Industry 4.0), we are now entering a (post)digital era.

growleaves · 11-10-2020 9:03pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

There's nothing wrong with a health passport.

Are posters going to bounce between saying "x will never happen" and "x is happening but it doesn't matter"?

Lots of people have no use for freedom and privacy and don't understand why other people want it.

Dionaibh · 11-10-2020 9:10pm

Deleted User wrote: »

It's a random grassroots group focused on the environment so they're piggybacking on the term more than anything. You still haven't linked to any WEF content but are instead referencing things with zero context... FYI, technology has always redefined humanity, that's been the case since creating fire..

This is the video I was referring to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6pzXrEBqR0

But Schwab is talking about transhumanism and microchips.

From the article in The Spectator Australia I posted a link to:

"Stripped of the propaganda, the Great Reset is not new. It’s another fascist experiment being pushed by controlling elitists. Economic growth and social mobility must be subordinate to the collective. Connections will be institutionalised and privilege perpetuated."

11-10-2020 9:10pm

Gianni Scrawny Steroid wrote: »

A somewhat unusual and strange very small selecton of niche topics to mention.
To quote the organiser of The Great Reset:

Yes it's an economic 'grand' reset, but it's also a reset by association of 'society' as a whole (in every aspect), indeed nearly every fassett of daily life from education, healthcare, transport, welfare, public services and so on.

It's also the firing pistol of the great new 4th Industrial Reveloution (Industry 4.0), we are now entering a (post)digital era.

And still you haven't demonstrated anything nefarious about it.

Dionaibh · 11-10-2020 9:11pm

growleaves wrote: »

Are posters going to bounce between saying "x will never happen" and "x is happening but it doesn't matter"?

Lots of people have no use for freedom and privacy and don't understand why other people want it.

It's quite extraordinary how health passports don't bother people.

11-10-2020 9:21pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

It's quite extraordinary how health passports don't bother people.

So couple of things, when a vaccine for covid is readily available, it's reasonable for countries to reject unvaccinated people traveling to their country. In the meantime, it's also reasonable to reject people who haven't tested negative. The likes of commonpass simply standardise documentation of that for travel.

4068ac1elhodqr · 11-10-2020 9:21pm

Deleted User wrote: »

And still you haven't demonstrated anything nefarious about it.

If one had a coin for everytime some specific 'types' here, lazily use the word 'nefarious' (daily!) lol.
Show where I claimed there was something 'nefarious'.

What The Great Reset is in essence the cramming of 15yrs worth of change into approx 1.5yrs.
Now (sudden, wholescale) change, can be (both) good and bad.

The only thing for certian is that the imposition of systemic change of this scope, will in turn have equally wholescale (irreversable) effects on populations (good and bad).

Time is the single biggest risk factor here.
Natural and gradual changes of this scale, usually iron out any risks or concerns through consideration and reasoned debate (common in democracy).

This will not be the case here.
Hence there are heightened immediate risks of unknown or wayward effects, by the few (undemocratically) will imposing their will on the many, many.

Dionaibh · 11-10-2020 9:25pm

Gianni Scrawny Steroid wrote: »

If one had a coin for everytime some specific 'types' here, lazily use the word 'nefarious' (daily!) lol.
Show where I claimed there was something 'nefarious'.

What The Great Reset is in essence the cramming of 15yrs worth of change into approx 1.5yrs.
Now (sudden, wholescale) change, can be (both) good and bad.

The only thing for certian is that the imposition of systemic change of this scope, will in turn have equally wholescale (irreversable) effects on populations (good and bad).

Time is the single biggest risk factor here.
Natural and gradual changes of this scale, usually iron out any risks or concerns through consideration and reasoned debate (common in democracy).

This will not be the case here.
Hence there are heightened immediate risks of unknown or wayward effects, by the few (undemocratically) will imposing their will on the many, many.

It's the possible extent of the changes that scares me. But you don't think the changes will be implemented over over a period of 10 to 20 years?

Dohnjoe · 11-10-2020 9:26pm

growleaves wrote: »

Are posters going to bounce between saying "x will never happen" and "x is happening but it doesn't matter"?

Lots of people have no use for freedom and privacy and don't understand why other people want it.

Not sure what your point is. Lockdown measures have one aim, to mitigate a global pandemic.

There's no "sinister" purpose to them, most people agree with common sense measures.

Dionaibh · 11-10-2020 9:27pm

Deleted User wrote: »

So couple of things, when a vaccine for covid is readily available, it's reasonable for countries to reject unvaccinated people traveling to their country. In the meantime, it's also reasonable to reject people who haven't tested negative. The likes of commonpass simply standardise documentation of that for travel.

As long as it was just for travel then, while I wouldn't like it, it wouldn't be as bad as if it was a health passport for the shop, going to a restaurant, cinema, stadium, theatre, and pretty much anything you can think of. That's my fear. Imagine having to prove you're virus free to go to the shop. It's awful.

Dionaibh · 11-10-2020 9:28pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Not sure what your point is. Lockdown measures have one aim, to mitigate a global pandemic.

There's no "sinister" purpose to them, most people agree with common sense measures.

Would you call what's going on in Melbourne mitigating a global pandemic? A Polish man who lives there wrote an article a couple of months ago in which he said that it reminded him of Communist Poland.

4068ac1elhodqr · 11-10-2020 9:30pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

It's the possible extent of the changes that scares me. But you don't think the changes will be implemented over over a period of 10 to 20 years?

To quote a chap with rather large ears that talks to plants:

“We have a golden opportunity to seize something good from this crisis — its unprecedented shockwaves may well make people more receptive to big visions of change,”
“It is an opportunity we have never had before and may never have again.”

All we know is changes will be drastic, sudden and significant across all socio-economic arenas.
A once in a lifetime opportunity in essence.

The Great Reset

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