Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

PTH2009 · 06-10-2020 09:38PM

extra gravy wrote: »

Lads congratulating themselves for going to the pub and "fcuking the begrudgers" with lock ins. There seems to be no sign of intelligent life anywhere these days.

Were going to see scenes of house parties and illegal outdoor gatherings over the next few weeks

Some pubs are still going to open and abuse the outdoor rule

Social media will make sure of breaches

Tenzor07 · 06-10-2020 09:41PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Were going to see scenes of house parties and illegal outdoor gatherings over the next few weeks

When did they stop?

MOH · 07-10-2020 07:16AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Cheers Stephen, nice Ninja edit.

What the hell are you ranting about?

The only possible sense I can get from that is that you failed to realise that there's two separate SIs, and are blaming the government because you missed the one extending the restrictions in shops. Which given it's #404 actually came before the one you knew about extending the public transport restrictions (#405).
(Guess you'd have to call that a 404 Not Found error on your part :cool: )

Either that or you're claiming that a minister signing a statutory instrument amending previous legislation, which is publicly available from numerous sources, somehow constitutes a "stealth edit".

In which case you might want to sit down, lest you be shocked by similar amendments to:
- The Forestry Regulations 2017 (DUNN!!)
- The Betting Duty and Betting Intermediary Duty Regulations 2015 (DUUNNNN!!!)
- The European Communities (Minimum Safety and Health Requirements for Improved Medical Treatment on Board Vessels) Regulations 1997
(DUN DUNN DUNNNNNNN!!!!!!)

And that's only this year. Where will this madness end!

Eric Cartman · 07-10-2020 10:31AM

Had a few down the local last night, big open area so theyre allowing people stay outside for pints, going ti give them a ring today and book myself a table every friday for the next 4 months just incase.

rob316 · 07-10-2020 11:26AM

Last few pints last night, I don't see them reopening this side of Christmas sadly. Serving 15 people outdoors won't be feasible for pretty much most pubs.

dominatinMC · 07-10-2020 11:38AM

rob316 wrote: »

Last few pints last night, I don't see them reopening this side of Christmas sadly. Serving 15 people outdoors won't be feasible for pretty much most pubs.

I most definitely can. I think one of the reasons that we're hearing of this "circuit breaker" lockdown coming after this current phase 3 is to ensure that we can have some sort of Christmas. Obviously it won't be the same as other years, and will be devoid of Christmas parties, etc. but I think pubs will be open in some form or another. No party will want to be responsible for cancelling Christmas! :pac:

Kivaro · 07-10-2020 11:53AM

The plan I'd say is to keep us locked down until Christmas week, and then open up for that week. It's a crazy policy. Do they not know that people will go bonkers that week if they are given their freedom again? And then the numbers will go up ..... again, and then they will shut us down again. And repeat ad nauseam.

It is so disappointing to know that many pubs all over the country will have to shut their doors for good as a result of this current lockdown. But then again, that is all part of the Government plan. Many rural villages have already lost their only pub, which only adds to the isolation that these areas experience.

dominatinMC · 07-10-2020 12:38PM

Kivaro wrote: »

The plan I'd say is to keep us locked down until Christmas week, and then open up for that week. It's a crazy policy. Do they not know that people will go bonkers that week if they are given their freedom again? And then the numbers will go up ..... again, and then they will shut us down again. And repeat ad nauseam.

It is so disappointing to know that many pubs all over the country will have to shut their doors for good as a result of this current lockdown. But then again, that is all part of the Government plan. Many rural villages have already lost their only pub, which only adds to the isolation that these areas experience.

Is this actually the case, or is it a bit of a misnomer? I love the pub, but I'm not sure I buy into the narrative that they are closing down left, right and centre. It will be interesting to see the stats at the end of this. For sure, there will be casualties, and that is unfortunate - but many of those were probably on the way out anyway and this pandemic only accelerated the outcome. I live in a village with 5 pubs, all doing a decent trade and I know they were all given handsome start-up grants when they reopened 3 weeks ago and were compensated for lost stock, etc. so, whilst, they were definitely out of pocket, I'm not sure the picture is a bleak as some like to paint it.

Suckit · 07-10-2020 12:42PM

Kivaro wrote: »

The plan I'd say is to keep us locked down until Christmas week, and then open up for that week. It's a crazy policy. Do they not know that people will go bonkers that week if they are given their freedom again? And then the numbers will go up ..... again, and then they will shut us down again. And repeat ad nauseam.

It is so disappointing to know that many pubs all over the country will have to shut their doors for good as a result of this current lockdown. But then again, that is all part of the Government plan. Many rural villages have already lost their only pub, which only adds to the isolation that these areas experience.

I would guess the plan is to keep the lockdown until numbers drop dramatically, and then slowly reopen with restrictions.

I think the most important thing is for people to understand why the restrictions are there and understand that everyone has to be careful if they want things to stay open.
The idiots that might go bonkers when restrictions are eventually lifted are more than likely going to be the reason restricitons are implemented again, and are also most likely to be the ones complaining about it.

Sconsey · 07-10-2020 12:47PM

Kivaro wrote: »

The plan I'd say is to keep us locked down until Christmas week, and then open up for that week. It's a crazy policy. Do they not know that people will go bonkers that week if they are given their freedom again? And then the numbers will go up ..... again, and then they will shut us down again. And repeat ad nauseam.

It is so disappointing to know that many pubs all over the country will have to shut their doors for good as a result of this current lockdown. But then again, that is all part of the Government plan. Many rural villages have already lost their only pub, which only adds to the isolation that these areas experience.

You're giving out about a plan you just made up yourself in the previous sentence

weldoninhio · 07-10-2020 12:49PM

What department looks after pub licensing etc?? Want to try something out.

rob316 · 07-10-2020 12:49PM

dominatinMC wrote: »

I most definitely can. I think one of the reasons that we're hearing of this "circuit breaker" lockdown coming after this current phase 3 is to ensure that we can have some sort of Christmas. Obviously it won't be the same as other years, and will be devoid of Christmas parties, etc. but I think pubs will be open in some form or another. No party will want to be responsible for cancelling Christmas! :pac:

I think we are been hugely optimistic if we think the alert level will drop below 3. If 3 is the best we manage for the winter I think we will be doing very very well.

El Weirdo · 07-10-2020 12:54PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

What department looks after pub licensing etc?? Want to try something out.

Revenue.

bucketybuck · 07-10-2020 01:18PM

dominatinMC wrote: »

It will be interesting to see the stats at the end of this. For sure, there will be casualties, and that is unfortunate - but many of those were probably on the way out anyway and this pandemic only accelerated the outcome.

Are we still talking about pubs....

brilou23 · 07-10-2020 01:42PM

If bar/resturant has a beer garden out the back and seating at the front outside are they allowed to have 30 on premise

rob316 · 07-10-2020 01:45PM

brilou23 wrote: »

If bar/resturant has a beer garden out the back and seating at the front outside are they allowed to have 30 on premise

No, its pretty clear an absolute max of 15 people.

PTH2009 · 07-10-2020 01:52PM

Its going to be quite hard to get a table outside anywhere, maybe easier for a Monday/Tuesday but weekend forget about it unless you pre booked

Was bloody looking forward to a few pints watching the Ireland match tomorrow. Guess it's cans at home

brilou23 · 07-10-2020 02:08PM

rob316 wrote: »

No, its pretty clear an absolute max of 15 people.

Heard of a bar with two beer gardens and front seating area trying reopen with 45. Hope they get shut down fast if they do

Suckit · 07-10-2020 02:15PM

brilou23 wrote: »

Heard of a bar with two beer gardens and front seating area trying reopen with 45. Hope they get shut down fast if they do

I heard of a bar (well known place) rumoured to have locked in the local football team until the early hours of the following morning, staff members with them one night and a load of them ended up with the virus.
They posted a message online refuting the allegations and denying that any of it happened except that the team were there for exactly 105 minutes :rolleyes:.
I know two people that were at the lock-in and it did happen. They also had to close down because staff members caught it, which they admitted. They closed on the Friday, and reopened on the following Monday.
What is the point in any of these rules if they are not being enforced in any way.
That pub has a massive outdoor area and even allowed onto the street, so a lot of people will be going there.

:mad:

jippo nolan · 07-10-2020 02:29PM

Suckit wrote: »

I heard of a bar (well known place) rumoured to have locked in the local football team until the early hours of the following morning, staff members with them one night and a load of them ended up with the virus.
They posted a message online refuting the allegations and denying that any of it happened except that the team were there for exactly 105 minutes :rolleyes:.
I know two people that were at the lock-in and it did happen. They also had to close down because staff members caught it, which they admitted. They closed on the Friday, and reopened on the following Monday.
What is the point in any of these rules if they are not being enforced in any way.
That pub has a massive outdoor area and even allowed onto the street, so a lot of people will be going there. :mad:

Is that something “new”

sp00k · 07-10-2020 03:37PM

Just found out today my local has gone up for sale and the owners are finished. Looking like it won't be the only one going the same way in my town either.

Xenji · 07-10-2020 04:07PM

Walked past an establishment today that have an enclosed marquee outside their front entrance, the number of people inside looked right and it is a interesting idea if done right but I do not see it lasting long as none of the sides were open which defeats the whole purpose.

The Nal · 07-10-2020 04:24PM

Xenji wrote: »

Walked past an establishment today that have an enclosed marquee outside their front entrance, the number of people inside looked right and it is a interesting idea if done right but I do not see it lasting long as none of the sides were open which defeats the whole purpose.

Bad time of the year for outdoor dining!

Current weather....

07-10-2020 04:57PM

Xenji wrote: »

Walked past an establishment today that have an enclosed marquee outside their front entrance, the number of people inside looked right and it is a interesting idea if done right but I do not see it lasting long as none of the sides were open which defeats the whole purpose.

Marquees not allowed per VFI this evening.

HBC08 · 07-10-2020 05:54PM

Xenji wrote: »

Walked past an establishment today that have an enclosed marquee outside their front entrance, the number of people inside looked right and it is a interesting idea if done right but I do not see it lasting long as none of the sides were open which defeats the whole purpose.

I think I know where you're talking about WI recently changed name to IT?
Fair play to them for trying but i don't think it can be considered outdoor and wouldn't expect to see it still up by the weekend.

brilou23 · 07-10-2020 06:55PM

1966 wrote: »

Marquees not allowed per VFI this evening.

Can u pm me the link for this pls

07-10-2020 07:04PM

HBC08 wrote: »

I think I know where you're talking about WI recently changed name to IT?
Fair play to them for trying but i don't think it can be considered outdoor and wouldn't expect to see it still up by the weekend.

I guess this is the place you mean?

https://www.con-telegraph.ie/2020/10/07/mayo-hotel-setting-trend-in-meeting-level-3-trading-challenges/?fbclid=IwAR1PhiqbB9VCxOBD8qX-Z06LTeLcJjKdOcz8IoPgyDm-a3ITLH8Xa-MXXBQ

KaneToad · 07-10-2020 09:45PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Thats news to me, an acting (although i was panelled after a recent interview) Grade 4 in the civil service.

Congrats! Which govt department?

Dickie10 · 07-10-2020 09:56PM

I really cant see pubs open until January 2021 now, they have them closed again and this was what they seemed to want all along. I would be shocked if they open mid November with xmas so close

Yyhhuuu · 08-10-2020 01:01AM

rubbledoubledo wrote: »

Exactly do the think we’re living in the Costa Del Sol with their Outdoors

Did you hear about outdoor heating?

Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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