General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

yourdeadwright · 06-10-2020 09:03AM

Shaq has tested positive for Covid.
Looks like the Liverpool squad could have an issues 3rd on in a week and the greek left back was the week before so 4 confirmed cases

I also reckon Trent had it pre-season he didn't go on tour because of an undisclosed injury and looks nackered since, but that just a guess ,

Harry Palmr · 06-10-2020 02:30PM

I'm expecting the league to be suspended or at least for it to be a talking point in about 3 weeks.

Shanotheslayer · 06-10-2020 02:55PM

Is there a report of current premier league teams with active cases?

Is there any other team than Liverpool with multiple cases?

yourdeadwright · 06-10-2020 02:59PM

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Is there a report of current premier league teams with active cases?

Is there any other team than Liverpool with multiple cases?

Didn't Westham have Moyes and two players last week test positive

Harry Palmr · 06-10-2020 03:00PM

You can have a look at the "injury" list for the PL here https://www.premierinjuries.com/injury-table.php

I'm expecting a rake of cases to become known after the international break, and just from the rising rate among the wider population. Footballers have family, business contacts and so on.

yourdeadwright · 06-10-2020 03:13PM

I see Ozil has tweeted the its a disgrace that Arsenal let Gunnasaurus go and he will pay his wages for as long as he's an Arsenal player if they give him his job back ,

Putting Arsenal in a terrible PR position there,

Harry Palmr · 06-10-2020 03:34PM

I saw that, pathetic attempt to curry favour. Why is he still an Arsenal player?

eagle eye · 06-10-2020 03:38PM

Harry Palmr wrote:

I saw that, pathetic attempt to curry favour. Why is he still an Arsenal player?

He's making Arsenal look really bad though.

KaiserGunner · 06-10-2020 03:45PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I saw that, pathetic attempt to curry favour. Why is he still an Arsenal player?

No one is willing to pay his ridiculous salary. He’s an Arsenal player in the loosest sense. He won’t play for them again.

TitianGerm · 06-10-2020 03:47PM

KaiserGunner wrote: »

No one is willing to pay his ridiculous salary. He’s an Arsenal player in the loosest sense. He won’t play for them again.

I read the first line and thought to my self "how much were they actually paying Gunnersaurus" :pac:

Agent Coulson · 06-10-2020 03:51PM

Fair play to Ozil.

Refused to take a pay cut as he didn't believe the boards promise that wouldn't sack general staff and he was proven right.

The Arsenal board have no to blame but themselves for still having Ozil on there books they offered him can't turn down money to stay at the club and he excepted that offer.

yourdeadwright · 06-10-2020 03:57PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I saw that, pathetic attempt to curry favour. Why is he still an Arsenal player?

Honestly I think he is trolling Arsenal as the kids say and putting them in a bad position on purpose,

Shanotheslayer · 06-10-2020 04:09PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Didn't Westham have Moyes and two players last week test positive

Oh is that why Moyes hasn't been there. Tbh never even crossed my mind I thought he got sent off or something :pac:

Agent Coulson · 06-10-2020 04:27PM

The Premier League, FA and EFL today jointly published the following open letter to football supporters.

The Premier League, EFL, The FA, Women’s Super League and Women’s Championship want to assure all fans that together we are fully committed to your safe return to football grounds as soon as possible.

The health of the nation remains our overriding priority, and for many months we have been working with experts to make our grounds as safe as, if not safer than, any other public activity currently allowed. And we are consulting with the Football Supporters’ Association to keep supporters updated every step of the way.

We know attendance at matches can play a positive role in people’s lives during these challenging times. And the past few months have shown how clubs can still feel the support of their fans. Even when you have been unable to get together, you and your clubs have found ways to make a difference in your communities, with clubs delivering food parcels, taking part in phone calls and online conversations with fans, the elderly and vulnerable and moving services and programmes online to make a difference in unprecedented and challenging circumstances.

But we all know football is not the same without fans. Every player and manager is missing the direct connection with you and the impact that you have on our games.

With the EFL, Premier League, Women’s Super League and Women’s Championship already staging 11 successful test events recently, we have demonstrated that we can deliver matches safely. The sooner we can return, the sooner we can reunite communities and support local jobs, livelihoods, regional businesses and also the national economy.

We will continue to urge government to allow us to return fans safely to stadiums. It is positive progress that major arts and music venues have been told they can run socially-distanced events indoors. And now football should be allowed to do the same - in highly regulated and stewarded outdoor environments.

Additionally, representatives from football are active members of the government's Sports Technology and Innovation Group, as well as being involved with its ‘Moonshot’ mass-testing project to open up the economy. And in light of the postponement of test events we will intensify our efforts to pioneer new approaches - working with epidemiologists, scientists and medical experts in areas such as public health, clinical processes and occupational hygiene. This will make sure stadiums are COVID-safe by considering best practice screening and hygiene methods to ensure that fans and the general public will be safe and drive the government's sporting plans to move faster.

Stadium environments can be modified and carefully managed. Measures could include screening spectators before they enter the ground, installing temperature checks, requiring masks to be worn, one-way systems and providing a code of conduct for all those attending on a matchday. This will all be bolstered by deep-cleaning practices to help further reduce the risk of virus transmission.

Clubs want to be pro-active on this matter and willing to consider measures both in the stadium and on the approach that will allay any concerns as to fans’ safety. From a travel perspective, clubs will work closely with experts and local authorities to model solutions relevant for each stadium to ease pressure on public transport, while extra parking facilities could be available so a greater proportion of you can travel by private car or bicycle.

We are determined to identify a path forward with government. We need clarity for our clubs and for you as supporters as to what the roadmap for change in this area looks like. We all know why caution is needed, and we ask government for consistency in their policy so sport is treated as fairly as other activities currently allowed to welcome spectators.

So, we will continue to urge the relevant authorities to let us, together, use innovative ways to bring fans safely back into football grounds, starting with a return of the test event programme. If we do so, then the benefits will be felt not just by fans but throughout society and the economy.

Richard Masters, Premier League chief executive

David Baldwin, EFL chief executive

Mark Bullingham, FA chief executive

Kelly Simmons, FA director of women's professional game

DM_7 · 06-10-2020 04:42PM

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Is there a report of current premier league teams with active cases?

Is there any other team than Liverpool with multiple cases?

https://www.premierleague.com/news/1814863

The Premier League can today confirm that between Monday 28 September and Sunday 4 October, 1,587 players and club staff were tested for COVID-19.

Of these, there were nine new positive tests.

Players or club staff who have tested positive will self-isolate for a period of 10 days.

No specific details as to clubs or individuals will be provided by the League and results will be made public after each round of testing.

Previous test results
Round 1: 31 Aug-6 Sep - 1,605 tested, with three testing positive.
Round 2: 7-13 Sep - 2,131 tested, with four testing positive.
Round 3: 14-20 Sep - 1,574 tested, with three testing positive.
Round 4: 21-27 Sep - 1,5959 tested, with 10 testing positive.

It was also reported clubs fixtures be fulfilled where they have 14 players available who ever played senior football.

06-10-2020 04:50PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The Premier League, FA and EFL today jointly published the following open letter to football supporters.

So many words.

I think a lot of football supporters will wait for the meme/Paddy Powers take.

Agent Coulson · 06-10-2020 04:54PM

Just reading that Boris Johnson is telling people to go to the cinema to save them but his government won't let limited fans into football stadiums.

noodler · 06-10-2020 05:14PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I'm expecting the league to be suspended or at least for it to be a talking point in about 3 weeks.

Can't see it.

Too much money, too tight a schedule.

Them players will just have to be considered injured for the games in question.

MisterAnarchy · 06-10-2020 06:30PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Fair play to Ozil.

Refused to take a pay cut as he didn't believe the boards promise that wouldn't sack general staff and he was proven right.

The Arsenal owner is a really odious man.
Kroenke, he hasnt invested a penny in the club in the last 5 years.
He has spent an eye watering 5 Billion dollars on a new stadium in California for the LA Rams after moving the Rams from Missouri because he wasnt get enough incentives or tax breaks.
His wife is Ann Walton Kroenke, the niece of Walmart founder Sam Walton.
A real slimeball.

thebaz · 06-10-2020 06:54PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

The Arsenal owner is a really odious man.
Kroenke, he hasnt invested a penny in the club in the last 5 years.

In fairness, did he not spend 45 million yesterday on Partey ??

also the Rams, to me were always the LA Rams, really moving them home.

Fitz* · 06-10-2020 08:26PM

Looking at these numbers, and the current number of cases in the Liverpool squad, I would be getting really worried about teams in the area moving forward.

Especially with all the travel and mixing of bubbles associated with international football. This round of international fixtures should not be happening at all. Too much mixing different bubbles with different infection rates and countries involved. It's not like in June where one team was staying within their own bubble only.

https://twitter.com/LiamThorpECHO/status/1313573819987251203?s=19

Cookiemunster · 06-10-2020 08:52PM

The international rules mean that you have to pass a covid test 48 hours before a match. Players will be tested 3 times while remaining in their own bubble over this international break. It's unlikely that players will be returning riddled with Covid.

Sancho, Chilwell and Abraham aren't allowed to enter the England bubble until its clear that they don't have Covid after attending Abrahams birthday party. So it is taken very seriously.

Mars Bar · 07-10-2020 06:51AM

Fitz* wrote: »

Looking at these numbers, and the current number of cases in the Liverpool squad, I would be getting really worried about teams in the area moving forward.

Especially with all the travel and mixing of bubbles associated with international football. This round of international fixtures should not be happening at all. Too much mixing different bubbles with different infection rates and countries involved. It's not like in June where one team was staying within their own bubble only.

https://twitter.com/LiamThorpECHO/status/1313573819987251203?s=19

Yep, my sister lives in Liverpool and picked it up in the gym last week. She's currently at the loss of smell phase!

yourdeadwright · 07-10-2020 02:55PM

I see one Scottish player tested positive for covid so 2 other player seen as close contacts now have to self isolate for 14 days

Tierney from Arsenal is one of these, not sure how the other one was ,

Does this mean now he has to stay in Scotland ?

What if he testes negative does he still have to stay there

Theses Internationals are going to be a ****e show

Kiith · 07-10-2020 03:13PM

The friendly's absolutely should have been cancelled/postponed. Whatever about the Nations League/Qualifiers, there is no way they should be risking contact for a nothing game.

Cookiemunster · 07-10-2020 03:18PM

Kiith wrote: »

The friendly's absolutely should have been cancelled/postponed. Whatever about the Nations League/Qualifiers, there is no way they should be risking contact for a nothing game.

Even with no crowds the friendlys bring in TV money, which the national associations are hemorrhaging. While I don't disagree with you, I can see why they're still going ahead.

Kiith · 07-10-2020 03:19PM

Yeah, that's a fair point. I can only imagine how much money the FA's are losing at the moment.

Fitz* · 07-10-2020 03:37PM

Off hand, that means that there are current cases in the Dundee / Scotland, Celtic / France, Liverpool / Switzerland. Where the players are all mixing with different bubbles. There are multiple cases in Juventus, Napoli, Salzburg teams and who knows how that will develop with players from these clubs playing international football this week.

If Tierney & Ryan Christie test positive, then there will be cases at Arsenal, Celtic & Dundee that would be directly linked, as they mixed their individual club bubbles together for international duty.

There's obviously a lot more clubs with active cases but it seems like there is more now than there was back in June/July where there the was regularly only 2 or 3 cases in the entire league in a given week. There is 2 or 3 cases in a lot of clubs now.

Father Hernandez · 07-10-2020 04:02PM

thebaz wrote: »

In fairness, did he not spend 45 million yesterday on Partey ??

also the Rams, to me were always the LA Rams, really moving them home.

The club spent £45m on Partey, massive club earns huge revenue so they can spend money on players like that.

Issue with Kroenke as well as other owners is that they're in it purely for profit and don't invest in the club at all, not a penny from their pocket.

Great if you can do it, shít for fans.

TitianGerm · 07-10-2020 04:03PM

Father Hernandez wrote: »

The club spent £45m on Partey, massive club earns huge revenue so they can spend money on players like that.

Issue with Kroenke as well as other owners is that they're in it purely for profit and don't invest in the club at all, not a penny from their pocket.

Great if you can do it, shít for fans.

Should all clubs not try to be self sustaining?

General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

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