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  • #6032
    Lallers96
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭Lallers96


    I'd love to see an article hit the news about this because we have been well and truly f*cked about for 7 months now.


  • #6033
    lcs3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 ✭lcs3


    Lallers96 wrote: »
    I'd love to see an article hit the news about this because we have been well and truly f*cked about for 7 months now.

    I think we should all contact the press


  • #6034
    Dliodoir2021
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭Dliodoir2021


    Does anyone know if you type the online exams or write them?


  • #6035
    lsheehaneire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭lsheehaneire


    Or social media...


  • #6036
    Fe1student1234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 220 ✭✭Fe1student1234


    Dliodoir2021 wrote: »
    Does anyone know if you type the online exams or write them?


    The August online ones were written and you had to scan your paper to them

    If these go ahead I’d say it will be typed due to the amount of students


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  • #6037
    Aoibhin511
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭Aoibhin511


    Dliodoir2021 wrote: »
    Does anyone know if you type the online exams or write them?

    People from Kildare wrote them and sent photos in August


  • #6038
    Jenosul
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭Jenosul


    Dliodoir2021 wrote: »
    Number of decades***

    Ruined a lot of peoples twenties, etc.

    I wish I was exaggerating but I'm not.

    I am stressed and anxious like many posting here. I agree with your comment of it ruining your life and I too have spent all nights awake drinking coffee studying, sometimes crying, worrying, panicking and constantly trying to motivate myself. Also trying to calm my whole system down after the exam sittings are finished. Not being able to relax as my system has been up to 90. It is just disheartening especially as it seems your law degree counts for nothing.


  • #6039
    FE1new
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭FE1new


    Dliodoir2021 wrote: »
    Does anyone know if you type the online exams or write them?

    I sat some for my final year exams and they gave me the option of either. I think for the August exams in the Law Society people had to write them (a booklet was sent out) and then they were scanned in with an app. The paper is emailed at the start of the exam.


  • #6040
    Law20213
    Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭Law20213


    Fe1student1234 wrote: »
    The August online ones were written and you had to scan your paper to them

    If these go ahead I’d say it will be typed due to the amount of students

    Typing speeds vary can be advantageous to one and not the other, written and scanned Doesn’t sound that bad


  • #6041
    Fe1student1234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 220 ✭✭Fe1student1234


    Law20213 wrote: »
    Typing speeds vary can be advantageous to one and not the other, written and scanned Doesn’t sound that bad

    True just not sure how they’d cope with a couple hundred exam papers being scanned to them

    Was grand for August because there wasn’t that many

    I’d definitely need to brush up on typing skills


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  • #6042
    Law20213
    Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭Law20213


    lcs3 wrote: »
    I think we should all contact the press

    Would love this debacle to be covered or exposed in the press because it’s has Had huge implications for what 2000 people who registered to sit these exams and feel like were are the only ones going through it cuz no other student, or professional body has been treated in the same way as us....I feel so let down and Disheartened I know I’m not alone

    Like for example leaving cert students points are up all round with predicted grades did any them actually fail this year....chances are no

    College students exams, lectures All online even some labs/practicals which normally can’t be done online have guess what .....gone online

    Kings inn, accountancy exams and many more professions all online and not postponed once

    So ya waiting another week for clarity from them on top of the weeks and months of uncertainty and despair is just too much to bear

    Like I think an emergency meeting was required today to give clarity to fe1 candidates it happened in other organisations today and previously

    Oh and also ironic that we’ve been told time and again they couldn’t go online and now there a maybe ye can sit them online after all....maybe ain’t good enough as previous posters have said


  • #6043
    Fe1student1234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 220 ✭✭Fe1student1234


    Law20213 wrote: »
    Would love this debacle to be covered or exposed in the press because it’s has Had huge implications for what 2000 people who registered to sit these exams and feel like were are the only ones going through it cuz no other student, or professional body has been treated in the same way as us....I feel so let down and Disheartened I know I’m not alone

    Like for example leaving cert students points are up all round with predicted grades did any them actually fail this year....chances are no

    College students exams, lectures All online even some labs/practicals which normally can’t be done online have guess what .....gone online

    Kings inn, accountancy exams and many more professions all online and not postponed once

    So ya waiting another week for clarity from them on top of the weeks and months of uncertainty and despair is just too much to bear

    Like I think an emergency meeting was required today to give clarity to fe1 candidates it happened in other organisations today and previously

    Oh and also ironic that we’ve been told time and again they couldn’t go online and now there a maybe ye can sit them online after all....maybe ain’t good enough as previous posters have said


    Someone has an email from the law society from like the last two weeks confirming there will be no online
    Sitting

    If they can organize one now why were the exams postponed at all


  • #6044
    EM11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 ✭EM11


    We've been messed around so much at this point that the only fair solution would seem to be setting a remote open book exam. I've had to delay commencing a new job twice because of rescheduling, and now it seems that I will have to contact my boss and ask if we can rearrange again. This does not make sense to anyone outside of law. An open book exam would be easier to facilitate as it would not require invigilation, and would be guaranteed to go ahead as scheduled.
    If a person is not adequately prepared they will not be able to pass anyway. The aim of these exams is to test our capacity to operate within the profession, and I don't think that anyone would begrudge a slight easing of the regulations for people who have been hanging on for seven months now


  • #6045
    Fe1student1234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 220 ✭✭Fe1student1234


    EM11 wrote: »
    We've been messed around so much at this point that the only fair solution would seem to be setting a remote open book exam. I've had to delay commencing a new job twice because of rescheduling, and now it seems that I will have to contact my boss and ask if we can rearrange again. This does not make sense to anyone outside of law. An open book exam would be easier to facilitate as it would not require invigilation, and would be guaranteed to go ahead as scheduled.
    If a person is not adequately prepared they will not be able to pass anyway. The aim of these exams is to test our capacity to operate within the profession, and I don't think that anyone would begrudge a slight easing of the regulations for people who have been hanging on for seven months now

    Completely agree! We should have a time frame window to complete and submit the exam


  • #6046
    lsheehaneire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭lsheehaneire


    Would that mean we could use our own notes ? ..surely they wont entertain that ?


  • #6047
    Fe1student1234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 220 ✭✭Fe1student1234


    lsheehaneire wrote: »
    Would that mean we could use our own notes ? ..surely they wont entertain that ?

    They could take a leaf from other countries - every law exam in Australia is open book

    And whilst working we will always be able to look up anything that we do not know


  • #6048
    IgoPAP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 343 ✭✭IgoPAP


    Isn't the best and most obvious rationale for giving automatic passes to candidates in light of their abject failures in facilitating the exams is that the student already passed the exam at undergraduate level anyways, so there's proof that they're competent at the subject, and that the exceptional nature of what's happening justifies it?

    It's a perfectly rational reasoning that's sitting right before them! They can even keep the damn money I don't care.


  • #6049
    Law20213
    Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭Law20213


    IgoPAP wrote: »
    Isn't the best and most obvious rationale for giving automatic passes to candidates in light of their abject failures in facilitating the exams is that the student already passed the exam at undergraduate level anyways, so there's proof that they're competent at the subject, and that the exceptional nature of what's happening justifies it?

    It's a perfectly rational reasoning that's sitting right before them! They can even keep the damn money I don't care.

    Agreed and the best money I will have ever spent!!

    But judging on the past cancelled exams I don’t hold any hope for it


  • #6050
    Fe1student1234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 220 ✭✭Fe1student1234


    IgoPAP wrote: »
    Isn't the best and most obvious rationale for giving automatic passes to candidates in light of their abject failures in facilitating the exams is that the student already passed the exam at undergraduate level anyways, so there's proof that they're competent at the subject, and that the exceptional nature of what's happening justifies it?

    It's a perfectly rational reasoning that's sitting right before them! They can even keep the damn money I don't care.

    I also agree

    The FE-1s never made sense to me in relation to people having completed a law degree


  • #6051
    Law20213
    Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭Law20213


    Fe1student1234 wrote: »
    I also agree

    The FE-1s never made sense to me in relation to people having completed a law degree

    Law degrees should come with a warning on the CAO that you aren’t actually eligible to enter the law society until you resist all 8 exams you studied for in college again....If I knew that at the time I may have studied something else in college and be an actual qualified professional by now!!


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  • #6052
    Fe1student1234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 220 ✭✭Fe1student1234


    Law20213 wrote: »
    Law degrees should come with a warning on the CAO that you aren’t actually eligible to enter the law society until you resist all 8 exams you studied for in college again....If I knew that at the time I may have studied something else in college and be an actual qualified professional by now!!

    Same I probably would have gone down the accounting route tbh


  • #6053
    EM11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 ✭EM11


    IgoPAP wrote: »
    Isn't the best and most obvious rationale for giving automatic passes to candidates in light of their abject failures in facilitating the exams is that the student already passed the exam at undergraduate level anyways, so there's proof that they're competent at the subject, and that the exceptional nature of what's happening justifies it?

    It's a perfectly rational reasoning that's sitting right before them! They can even keep the damn money I don't care.
    I doubt they would be able to do that given the fact that there was a Supreme Court ruling against it in the 90s. The best way would be to make things as simple as possible for us now, and get the new timetable to us as soon as possible. Maybe they could provide an exemption to everyone who had signed up, regardless of their undergraduate degree, but that seems unlikely


  • #6054
    RaffRiff01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 ✭RaffRiff01


    Hello all, it seems like this thread is the best route for me to ask my question as I have been ringing and emailing the LSI now for the past 5 days and no luck at all.

    When I heard that the new deadline for the Nov. sitting was 30. Sept. I immediately applied to sit 2 subjects. I was then approved and paid via the payment link and was given a receipt/confirmation.. have the order # and the shipping status, now shipped etc.

    would anyone advice me what would happen next? cause i have been waiting for 2 and a half weeks now for a exam number? or just any general exam details? or even something to let me know that i WILL be sitting it for sure..

    if anyone can reply to me about their past experience as to how it went... as this covid thing and this news about the november sitting just added to my extra level of stress and one more day of being on hold with the LSI will just push me off the edge!!!!!


  • #6055
    Ianmc97
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 ✭Ianmc97


    EM11 wrote: »
    I doubt they would be able to do that given the fact that there was a Supreme Court ruling against it in the 90s. The best way would be to make things as simple as possible for us now, and get the new timetable to us as soon as possible. Maybe they could provide an exemption to everyone who had signed up, regardless of their undergraduate degree, but that seems unlikely

    not exactly. as far as I know the supreme court, whilst being very sympathetic to the students ruled that they could not compel the law society to make its rules a certain way. absolutely nothing legally preventing the law society from reintroducing those rules for a single sitting


  • #6056
    Fe1student1234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 220 ✭✭Fe1student1234


    RaffRiff01 wrote: »
    Hello all, it seems like this thread is the best route for me to ask my question as I have been ringing and emailing the LSI now for the past 5 days and no luck at all.

    When I heard that the new deadline for the Nov. sitting was 30. Sept. I immediately applied to sit 2 subjects. I was then approved and paid via the payment link and was given a receipt/confirmation.. have the order # and the shipping status, now shipped etc.

    would anyone advice me what would happen next? cause i have been waiting for 2 and a half weeks now for a exam number? or just any general exam details? or even something to let me know that i WILL be sitting it for sure..

    if anyone can reply to me about their past experience as to how it went... as this covid thing and this news about the november sitting just added to my extra level of stress and one more day of being on hold with the LSI will just push me off the edge!!!!!


    You don’t get your exam number until two weeks before the exam

    No confirmed sitting of the November exam they’re looking at holding online ones but won’t confirm until next week

    We don’t know the dates or anything as of yet


  • #6057
    neon123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭neon123


    If the exams are going to be held online is it likely the dates will be pushed further into November or will the LS still try and maintain the start of the month?


  • #6058
    EmmaO94
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭EmmaO94


    It's in the Law Soc's interests to have these online exams open book (less work for them) so I really really hope this happens.

    But agree with everything said on this thread - their response has absolutely not been good enough. Would it kill them to email everyone instead of us having to stumble upon updates online by chance?? I really hope someone's got in touch with the journalist on here. These exams are horrendously stressful at the best of times never mind putting Covid and all this (preventable) uncertainty in the mix.


  • #6059
    Fe1student1234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 220 ✭✭Fe1student1234


    Yep you’re in the same boat as me! Once the application says approved and you’ve paid you’re registered and they will send out a letter or email with the exam details in the week or so before the exam (that’s what they usually do )


  • #6060
    RaffRiff01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 ✭RaffRiff01


    Fe1student1234 wrote: »
    You don’t get your exam number until two weeks before the exam

    No confirmed sitting of the November exam they’re looking at holding online ones but won’t confirm until next week

    We don’t know the dates or anything as of yet



    Would they send me my exam number by email? or post?

    right but if ever the exams go on at the first week of november (online or whatnot) will i be absolutely be eligible to sit that? given that i have been approved and already paid and confirmed and everything

    thank you so much for replying! it is my first sitting as I havent a clue if this is normal or what.


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  • #6061
    sarahlawless
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 ✭sarahlawless


    neon123 wrote: »
    If the exams are going to be held online is it likely the dates will be pushed further into November or will the LS still try and maintain the start of the month?

    They are refusing to tell us until next week - 3 weeks out.


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