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Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    Claire Byrne trying her best to stir the pot between the government and NPHET trying to make Tony's position untenable tbh I'd be in favour of him going. It was disgusting what was done leaking that letter and putting the whole country in a state of panic and hysteria over the last 24 hours.

    The letter was published on the government website.

    Who knows who leaked its contents last night? Do you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,801 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Varadkar worried about people in poverty...first time for everything I suppose!


  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Leo is brilliant here!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Where I am, hospitals have been advertising pretty hard for recovered patients to donate plasma. They are definitely using it here at least. And remdesivir too to the point that how many vials they have in stock is part of the daily published figures. Maybe that isn't the case everywhere.

    But, no, of course the average patient won't get every treatment thrown at them like trump unless absolutely necessary. Or a luxury hospital room! But those treatments are available if needed.
    Some people here who have recovered are donating plasma too but it’s for research and the amount of that actually reaching patients as a antibody treatment is very small. Would think it’s limited to research trials in USA too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,665 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    That's both Martin and Varadkar coming across extremely bad in the space of an hour on national TV. What a shambles this government is.
    Naw. Martin is useless, no confidence in anything he is saying, not a good speaker at all.
    But Varadkar is doing rather well on Claire Byrne imo and I wouldn't be a big fan usually


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    Leo is brilliant here!!!

    Should still be Taoiseach. Streets ahead of Martin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭Goldrickssan


    That was a pretty wild interview


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,672 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    plodder wrote: »
    He's not pulling his punches.
    Will TH be considering his position?

    He's not. While he says he has confidence, everything he's said would indicate that he hasn't.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see resignations from NPHET in the morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    There should be fines and every Friday the people who were fined that week should be announced before the 9pm news.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    That was fantastic from Leo. Grinning to myself here. :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    NPHET are doing their job .
    Let the government get off their Meehole and do theirs , and be ACCOUNTABLE for it .
    Stop blaming NPHET ffs

    NPHET kept leaking their recommendations to the media as if they were Government, with no data or evidence to back this up. They would do this before even informing Government cabinet sub committee or cabinet. This is very wrong and would have a domino effect on the wider public implications re what was coming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Leo is saying all the right things here. Can’t fault a single thing he’s said so far. Sensible, solid points with clear delivery. NPHET have massively pissed off the public with their stunt yesterday evening. Loved how Leo said it’s well for them recommending level 5 when they won’t have to suffer the consequences of being on social welfare. Although he was very diplomatic, it’s about time someone stuck it to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Oh Leo leo, aaahhhhh Leo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,665 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    There should be fines and every Friday the people who were fined that week should be announced before the 9pm news.
    ....I can't tell if you are joking or not.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,978 ✭✭✭plodder


    I have a feeling Tony Holohan will now resign, and take a legal case.
    Don't see what basis he would have to take a legal case.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,193 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    That's both Martin and Varadkar coming across extremely bad in the space of an hour on national TV. What a shambles this government is.

    I get the impression nothing would get Leo a decent rating in your book. Thankfully we can all watch and decide for ourselves.

    I didn't vote FG but I'm very impressed with Leo since March.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,332 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Looks like they dragged Eamon out of bed



    NEPHET should advise against such things


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,597 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Much needed dose of reality. Byrne tried her best to be sensationalist but she displayed zero understanding of how high level decisions are agreed on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,970 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Donnelly said HSE is in full communication with private hospitals. They're included in the surge plan and may be used for non-covid care. HSE have plenty of resources for ICU expansion. Basically saying that capacity not an issue.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭TexasTornado


    That interview will haunt Varadkar for the rest of his life. When numbers of cases skyrocket in the coming weeks he is finished


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭C__MC


    Finally a government minister calling it as it is.


  • Posts: 21,290 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    plodder wrote: »
    Don't see what basis he would have to take a legal case.

    For being effectively forced out of his job if that transpires.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,137 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Some heavy fines issued to people breaking rules would help, the legislation is there but not being enforced.

    Absolutely. Allow the law to be a deterrent. Enforcement is the only way.

    Martin looks and sounds like a busted flush though. As much of an absolute fake that Leo was and is he pulled off an absolute genius move from a personal, party standpoint and career one handing the reigns to Martin and lurking in the shadows...Martin is well meaning, seems a decent sort but it unfortunately doesn’t look like he has the bottle or intellect for the job in the circumstances that he has it at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Bahrain is First World ..They are loaded.
    Probably have a load of Irish specialist nurses and doctors over there and in the UAE , and being very well paid.
    These examples just show separation of infected and non infected which has been done here in Ireland .
    What is needed is EXTRA staff for extra ICU beds .


    Bahrain is 'richer' than us, but it was actually effective leadership that was the key point, they did spend more than us initially but we will end up spending that in the long run, the way we are going.


    Actually. the have trained their own and we have trained some here as well. Yes there is Irish medical staff working there, some of which expressed a wish to come home to help here.


    And yes of course I know we have separated covid and covid patients here.I am not sure what you are talking about my examples did we manage to put in place a staffed 130 bed ICU here?


    I have nearly every time pointed out when posting, we also need extra staff, but in emergencys you have to start working with what you have.


    Do we wait for the extra staff and when we have them only start boosting capacity/building temporary ICU's?


    I do feel your and other medical staff's frustration, I have friends and family working in healthcare all over this country and abroad. And I know how much harder you are working especially in thje background.



    So I will post again,


    We need extra ICU staff please come home to Ireland. Please stay in Ireland if you qualify this year. Please pass this message on, all social media and also tell your TD's to sort a quicker registration process.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    gmisk wrote: »
    ....I can't tell if you are joking or not.....


    They pretty much do that with tax defaulters each year, same principle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    There should be fines and every Friday the people who were fined that week should be announced before the 9pm news.






    Pond rats are going to pond either way and not one single fcuk would they give.
    They would only love to have their names published for all the other pond rats to see.
    A badge of honor for the fcukers it would be


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    gmisk wrote: »
    Naw. Martin is useless, no confidence in anything he is saying, not a good speaker at all.
    But Varadkar is doing rather well on Claire Byrne imo and I wouldn't be a big fan usually

    I'd agree on Leo but Claire did her best trying to knock him out of his stride by butting in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭jammiedodgers


    Whether you want an immediate lockdown or let the virus rip though I think we can all agree this whole thing is a fucking shambles


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 141 ✭✭Thomas..


    Clair Byrne "Back channels not working again"

    More laxatives needed


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    New Zealand has shown that proactive measures work.

    https://twitter.com/NewsroomNZ/status/1313182911202504704?s=20


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