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quokula · 28-09-2020 4:58pm

Yakuza 7 is out on PS4 (and thus PS5 through BC) at the same time as Xbox. I suspect this is more a case of the technical simplicity of releasing the same game as both an Xbox One and Xbox Series game at once, versus needing to do some upgrade work to release it as a full PS5 title.

Probably due to the whole generations vs not generations ideology the two platform holders have going.

johnny_ultimate · 28-09-2020 5:12pm

CatInABox wrote: »

Guess we'll have to see on Bloodbourne, but apparently Sekiro runs at a "nearly locked" 60 on Xbox. Hopefully there's a similar boost on the PS side.

I joke a bit, but Bloodborne is the exceedingly rare game this generation that really could soar with a performance boost. I mean it’s one of the best games ever made already, but I’d be truly excited about playing it at 60FPS or even without the frame pacing issues. Same with The Last Guardian come to think of it.

There’s been a pretty solid baseline quality this generation thankfully - even at 30 FPS most games run fine! Even something like Control has an excellent PC version which lets you run it at full potential (plus it has a full next gen upgrade coming). The ones with noticeable, game-damaging issues are few and far between, so those are the ones I’m keen to see boosted.

daheadonu · 28-09-2020 8:35pm

id say from would have to patch it first though at least according to this article i was reading

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-bloodborne-60fps-hack-tested-the-complete-story

possibly the rumors of a remaster might just be a patch for higher resolution textures for the ps5 and the work done to make it compatible with
60fps and if it is coming to pc a patched version of the ps4 game would the version that releases

Mr Crispy · 29-09-2020 12:25pm

Rumour, rather than news. But fingers crossed...

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CastorTroy · 29-09-2020 1:04pm

If they made a Effect and Cause game, I would probably play. Part of the reason I like the look of The Medium

Grumpypants · 29-09-2020 9:00pm

Azza wrote: »

I remember people where suggesting EA where about to buy Sega a few ago under the impression that Sega are quite small struggling company now. They are not. They are still worth billions.

They have a very lucrative arcade division. They own the arcades and the games, they also make those pachinko machines that make a nice bit.

They choose steady games to release. And they have toys and animation. My kids know sonic from the cartoons not the games. Even that movie made money I think.

Azza · 30-09-2020 12:18am

Yeah Sega also have a strong presence on PC in recent years buying out Creative Assembly, Relic Studios and Sports Interactive, making them the effective owners of the Alien Isolation, Total War, Dawn of War, Company or Heroes and Football Manager IP's.

Markitron · 30-09-2020 11:10am

Azza wrote: »

Yeah Sega also have a strong presence on PC in recent years buying out Creative Assembly, Relic Studios and Sports Interactive, making them the effective owners of the Alien Isolation, Total War, Dawn of War, Company or Heroes and Football Manager IP's.

I would do terrible things for a sequel to Alien Isolation.

Horrible, unspeakable things. The kind of things that you couldn't unsee or undo. The kind of things that would stay with you for the rest of your life. I am somewhat of a fan of that game.

Retr0gamer · 30-09-2020 12:08pm

Me too but make it 6-8 hours long please.

pixelburp · 30-09-2020 12:11pm

I never finished Alien Isolation; just found it too scary & nerve-wracking and feel no shame admitting it. The game remains in my best-of list precisely because I can't bring myself to finish it.

johnny_ultimate · 30-09-2020 12:14pm

The second half of the game is so bad that I actually just can’t muster the same enthusiasm about the experience as some do. Absolutely the Alien itself is brilliantly realised in those key early hours, but it’s a game that descends to increasing depths of mediocrity far quicker and for far longer than it should.

Azza · 30-09-2020 12:15pm

pixelburp wrote: »

I never finished Alien Isolation; just found it too scary & nerve-wracking and feel no shame admitting it. The game remains in my best-of list precisely because I can't bring myself to finish it.

Don't worry its far less shameful than admitting you only have 2GB of VRAM! :pac:

pixelburp · 30-09-2020 12:21pm

Azza wrote: »

Don't worry its far less shameful than admitting you only have 2GB of VRAM! :pac:

LOL

Oh I forgot about that. I don't think that laptop has fired up a game in months. I'm a pure Switch kiddy these days, far gone are my PC Master Race days!

Markitron · 30-09-2020 12:35pm

I am one of the dozens of people that thought AI was the perfect length. Its 15 to 20 hours of everything going wrong and at the end you are mentally exhausted.

The Raging Bile Duct · 30-09-2020 12:36pm

Alien Isolation goes from a rollercoaster ride of pure fear and anxiety to 'Ah, ffs Alien, would you just piss off and let me finish this game!' The game is way too long.

Also, those android things are an absolute pain in the hole and just suck the fun out of the experience.

Markitron · 30-09-2020 1:15pm

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

Alien Isolation goes from a rollercoaster ride of pure fear and anxiety to 'Ah, ffs Alien, would you just piss off and let me finish this game!' The game is way too long.

Also, those android things are an absolute pain in the hole and just suck the fun out of the experience.

I thought they were really creepy and very well done. The section with them in the reactor core/power station is amazing.

gizmo · 30-09-2020 2:06pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

The second half of the game is so bad that I actually just can’t muster the same enthusiasm about the experience as some do. Absolutely the Alien itself is brilliantly realised in those key early hours, but it’s a game that descends to increasing depths of mediocrity far quicker and for far longer than it should.

You could probably remove a couple of missions from the middle part of the game where I felt it dragged a little but once you get to

the reactor and go down to the hive

, I felt it moved along at a really nice pace?

Speaking of the franchise, Cold Iron Studios are evidently still working on a new game with the IP, originally said to be a shooter but there's been no real details released about it yet. They have, however, changed hands again with their new owners being Daybreak but with production on said title continuing despite no longer being owned by Disney/Fox.

Markitron · 30-09-2020 2:51pm

gizmo wrote: »

You could probably remove a couple of missions from the middle part of the game where I felt it dragged a little but once you get to
the reactor and go down to the hive
, I felt it moved along at a really nice pace?

Spoilers for the 2nd half of AI here

Yea from that point onwards the game whips along, IMO it build a real sense of momentum coming up on the end. Whilst I am fine with the length, I can see what you mean about shortening it at that point. I kinda liked the few hours before hand as the game does a good job of making you believe the Alien is actually dead by having such an extended section without him.

BigGpu380 · 30-09-2020 2:59pm

Another dead space title would be incredible even though I have little doubt it'll ever happen unfortunately.

Markitron · 30-09-2020 3:02pm

BigGpu380 wrote: »

Another dead space title would be incredible even though I have little doubt it'll ever happen unfortunately.

A good Dead Space is never gonna happen unless EA sell the license, which they won't. So depressing, after the second game I genuinely thought we had the next Resident Evil on our hands.

I was half right, we certainly had the next RE6 on our hands when DS3 released.

pixelburp · 30-09-2020 3:19pm

Who would have reckoned the RE series would pull itself back after number six came out? For other franchises that could have been its death knell yet instead Capcom managed to take a punt on returning to its roots via a different genre (FPS survival horror), and a couple of excellent remasters. No reason something like Dead Space couldn't do the same but it would definitely require some stones on EA's part - and therein lies the rub of course.

Markitron · 30-09-2020 3:25pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Who would have reckoned the RE series would pull itself back after number six came out? For other franchises that could have been its death knell yet instead Capcom managed to take a punt on returning to its roots via a different genre (FPS survival horror), and a couple of excellent remasters. No reason something like Dead Space couldn't do the same but it would definitely require some stones on EA's part - and therein lies the rub of course.

I won't lie, I was extremely worried about RE after RE6 - a game I truly despise, but I always knew they could and probably would turn it around. I never thought they would do it so (relatively) quickly though. After RE6 they released Rev 2, RE7, RER2 and RER3. All fantastic games to varying degrees.

Retr0gamer · 30-09-2020 5:19pm

I honestly don't miss Dead Space. It's a grand series but was always Resident Evil methadone. And the story sucks.

Unless it's a RE:7 style reinvention of the series and reboot then forget about it and do something more original please.

Shapey Fiend · 30-09-2020 5:32pm

I'm always more interested in new IP's than sequels and remakes, however good they often are. Whenever talk about Sega getting bought comes up everybody is like "Oh cool. More Crazy Taxi. More Jet Set Radio" and I'm like noooo. Those games were cool because they were original. The thing that always separated Sega from Nintendo is they weren't as controlled and just went with whatever daft concept their game directors were feeling.

Sega with Yakuza and Nintendo with err everything are very good at making their existing IP's feel fresh with gameplay tweaks and that's nice but totally new IP's are even better.

Retr0gamer · 30-09-2020 6:05pm

I'd still murder someone for a Skies of Arcadia 2.

recyclops · 30-09-2020 7:45pm

I'd love Konami to remake shadow of memories that ps2 gem that got lost amongst their silent hills and metal gears

Zero-Cool · 30-09-2020 8:14pm

For anyone interested in Red Dead, my friend Paddy got John Marston himself on for a chat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cXoU5LTJ7c

Potential-Monke · 30-09-2020 8:38pm

Sitting here, still waiting on the SSX Tricky remake/sequel...

J. Marston · 30-09-2020 9:00pm

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Sitting here, still waiting on the SSX Tricky remake/sequel...

Replace SSX with Destruction Derby and that's me.

RobertFoster · 30-09-2020 9:14pm

J. Marston wrote: »

Replace SSX with Destruction Derby and that's me.

Have you tried Wreckfest?

martyos121 · 30-09-2020 9:16pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

For anyone interested in Red Dead, my friend Paddy got John Marston himself on for a chat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cXoU5LTJ7c

Haven’t watched it all yet but it’s great to see an interview where both the host and subject are so into it, brilliant stuff so far.

J. Marston · 30-09-2020 11:03pm

Odd decision to redesign Peter Parker for the Spiderman remaster.

Original...

Remaster...

Apparently it's done to capture a look of voice actor Yuri Lowenthal when he was younger but it just looks like a knock-off Tom Holland to me.

30-09-2020 11:04pm

recyclops wrote: »

I'd love Konami to remake shadow of memories that ps2 gem that got lost amongst their silent hills and metal gears

Oh here what a game , got this when it came out and played it death for every outcome.

I'd play it again with my rose coloured glasses on if they even put on PS Now. Sony need to look at backward compatibility etc more. I still have the disc

It's probably a top 5 game for me from that era just because it something I knew nothing about at the time and really grabbed me as it was so unique vs other stuff I was playing at the time.

quokula · 30-09-2020 11:21pm

J. Marston wrote: »

Odd decision to redesign Peter Parker for the Spiderman remaster.

Original...

Remaster...

Apparently it's done to capture a look of voice actor Yuri Lowenthal when he was younger but it just looks like a knock-off Tom Holland to me.

Id say most likely they needed to re-capture in higher fidelity for the remaster and the original actor was unavailable, so they came up with some reason to justify the change. Find it hard to imagine that the stated reason is the real one, just no way it would justify the amount of extra work.

Shapey Fiend · 30-09-2020 11:53pm

We all have that game we'd like a sequel or even a remaster of (Total Annihilation in my case) but after 30 years of playing games I most value being surprised. Hell I'd take any good modern RTS at this point it's pretty much an extinct genre outside MOBAs.

Potential-Monke · 01-10-2020 2:38am

J. Marston wrote: »

Replace SSX with Destruction Derby and that's me.

You have me there too. DD2 being the first PS game I owned. Great memories. But as Robert said, Wreckfest is basically current gen Destruction Derby, and it's good fun. Amazing work on the damage models.

Robert ninja · 01-10-2020 9:47am

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh here what a game

I played it a couple of years ago on PC but I remember my sis playing it on PS2. Definitely a unique game. I wouldn't rely on Sony to remaster everything just because I want to play it again. I think they had a Vita release of it but they changed VAs. I prefer the dorky original PAL voice.

Retr0gamer · 01-10-2020 9:59am

Shadow of Memories got a pseudo spiritual sequel on DS called Time Hollow.

Completely ignored as well and never got as far as Europe but did get a US release. Well worth playing as well.

Mal-Adjusted · 01-10-2020 11:16am

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Sitting here, still waiting on the SSX Tricky remake/sequel...

Not to be pedantic, but it did get a sequel, SSX3 :P

I know what you mean though. After EA puked out SSX 2012 i just can't see them going back and giving us a new game that would be anything like Tricky

CatInABox · 01-10-2020 11:31am

I'm totally perplexed by the way Sony are handling the cross gen transition. Not catering for saves to transfer over between generations seems almost stone aged, I have to admit that I just assumed that they'd be done automatically like they are on Xbox.

I know a lot of people are trading in their old systems during the upgrade, but plenty more will want to move their current console into a bedroom to continue playing on, and now they'll essentially have two completely different versions of the same game, with no way to continue playing same save.

I wonder how Cyberpunk is going to handle it.

See here.

Retr0gamer · 01-10-2020 11:38am

Is this a Sony thing or just lazy devs? I really can't imagine importing one save game to another console is all that tough considering they are using the same code base.

**** it, even Suikoden 3 recognised my Suikoden 2 PS1 save back on the PS2.

I can only imagine it's Sony being overly cautious about security of the PS5 console. Allowing movement of old code to a newer system is one of those back doors that hackers like to exploit to run unauthored code.

CatInABox · 01-10-2020 11:43am

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Is this a Sony thing or just lazy devs? I really can't imagine importing one save game to another console is all that tough considering they are using the same code base.

**** it, even Suikoden 3 recognised my Suikoden 2 PS1 save back on the PS2.

I can only imagine it's Sony being overly cautious about security of the PS5 console. Allowing movement of old code to a newer system is one of those back doors that hackers like to exploit to run unauthored code.

Something to do with the SKUs, it seems like. Nobody is sure yet, but games that have their own online save system are ok, like Destiny or Hitman.

Robert ninja · 01-10-2020 11:47am

They're not even syncing the saves? Can't believe people pay money for these services.

CastorTroy · 01-10-2020 11:51am

That's it though. They haven't said yet. I know can't transfer PS4 Spider-man saves to the PS5 version but we don't know about The PS4 saves to playing the PS4 version on the PS5. I would assume the saves will copy over.

Think I did read that PS4 save for Miles Morales can be used on the PS5 version

Parsnips · 01-10-2020 12:01pm

Ive got 6 weeks left to finish "My time in portia so"
will be tough. what a game.

My "Apex Legends " stats better get carried over..thats all I can say..

quokula · 01-10-2020 12:15pm

CatInABox wrote: »

I'm totally perplexed by the way Sony are handling the cross gen transition. Not catering for saves to transfer over between generations seems almost stone aged, I have to admit that I just assumed that they'd be done automatically like they are on Xbox.

I know a lot of people are trading in their old systems during the upgrade, but plenty more will want to move their current console into a bedroom to continue playing on, and now they'll essentially have two completely different versions of the same game, with no way to continue playing same save.

I wonder how Cyberpunk is going to handle it.

See here.

In fairness I think this is mostly down to Microsoft pushing BC and cross compatibility hard and redefining expectations, along with certain games-as-a-service titles like Fortnite.

But previously this sort of save transfer was unheard of. I didn't expect to be able to continue my PS2 or PS3 saves on the PS4 remasters of SOTC, TLOU, FFXII etc. I couldn't transfer a BOTW save from my Wii U to Switch. You can't take your Xbox 360 Skyrim save over to the Xbox One re-release.

In my mind new consoles are new machines, with new hardware and new software. It's a reset. I get a new console to play new things. Even for games that have both a previous and next gen version, historically they've been completely different games that you buy completely separately and often have different features. It's a bit of a new concept Microsoft are pushing that it's just one game, but it has graphics settings turned up on the newer console.

This world of backwards compatibility and cross compatibility is new, and it's interesting for a few months during the crossover phase, but honestly a year from now when most games are being built primarily for the next gen consoles it will have been mostly forgotten about.

Markitron · 01-10-2020 12:18pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

we don't know about The PS4 saves to playing the PS4 version on the PS5. I would assume the saves will copy over.

I am 99.9% certain they have already confirmed this won't be a problem.

Dravokivich · 01-10-2020 12:25pm

quokula wrote: »

In fairness I think this is mostly down to Microsoft pushing BC and cross compatibility hard and redefining expectations, along with certain games-as-a-service titles like Fortnite.

But previously this sort of save transfer was unheard of. I didn't expect to be able to continue my PS2 or PS3 saves on the PS4 remasters of SOTC, TLOU, FFXII etc. I couldn't transfer a BOTW save from my Wii U to Switch. You can't take your Xbox 360 Skyrim save over to the Xbox One re-release.

In my mind new consoles are new machines, with new hardware and new software. It's a reset. I get a new console to play new things. Even for games that have both a previous and next gen version, historically they've been completely different games that you buy completely separately and often have different features. It's a bit of a new concept Microsoft are pushing that it's just one game, but it has graphics settings turned up on the newer console.

This world of backwards compatibility and cross compatibility is new, and it's interesting for a few months during the crossover phase, but honestly a year from now when most games are being built primarily for the next gen consoles it will have been mostly forgotten about.

This is the main reason why I keep my consoles. I don't expect consoles data to transition from 1 generation to the next. PS4 and PS5 would have different OS's. Xbox One and Xbox Series are both off Windows 10 aren't they? So essentially their transferability should function similarly to PC gaming.

Retr0gamer · 01-10-2020 12:26pm

quokula wrote: »

In fairness I think this is mostly down to Microsoft pushing BC and cross compatibility hard and redefining expectations, along with certain games-as-a-service titles like Fortnite.

But previously this sort of save transfer was unheard of. I didn't expect to be able to continue my PS2 or PS3 saves on the PS4 remasters of SOTC, TLOU, FFXII etc. I couldn't transfer a BOTW save from my Wii U to Switch. You can't take your Xbox 360 Skyrim save over to the Xbox One re-release.

In my mind new consoles are new machines, with new hardware and new software. It's a reset. I get a new console to play new things. Even for games that have both a previous and next gen version, historically they've been completely different games that you buy completely separately and often have different features. It's a bit of a new concept Microsoft are pushing that it's just one game, but it has graphics settings turned up on the newer console.

This world of backwards compatibility and cross compatibility is new, and it's interesting for a few months during the crossover phase, but honestly a year from now when most games are being built primarily for the next gen consoles it will have been mostly forgotten about.

Microsoft are pitching the XBox brand as a platform that will carry over from generation to generation. Sony on the other hand are kind of doing this but also not and it's really confusing. And there's also pretty much no excuse for this either.

CatInABox · 01-10-2020 12:39pm

Markitron wrote: »

I am 99.9% certain they have already confirmed this won't be a problem.

Yes, PS4 versions will be fine, but there's a question mark over any game that gets a free upgrade.

It's not a problem long term of course, once games are next gen exclusive this will stop being an issue, but for now it's just weird.

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