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Dublin home of 1916 Rising leader demolished

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    #32
    Feisar
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    I must give the lads in TCD Hist a shout and see are they comfy about it

    First they came for the socialists...



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    #33
    Steve012
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    the_syco wrote: »
    https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/40-herbert-park-ballsbridge-dublin-4/3888404

    Looks like it was owned by someone who probably couldn't update it.

    Sold for €2,725,000 in 2018. Sounds like someone cashed out, and it was demolished when the protection order was vetoed.

    If the O'Rahilly family thought so highly of it, why didn't they buy it? Or was it more convenient that someone else owned it, but couldn't update it?

    State could of bought it, rented apartments better in the long run I suppose, every ones a winner 👊🏼👀,

    Dublin 2030, jungle of apartments funny at this stage that any Joe soap would want to p*ss their money away on rent paid to "hedge funds" non Irish owned rent box's


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    #34
    KevRossi
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    4gqjsl


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    #35
    JustAThought
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    Maybe the bigger story we should be talking about is yet another local authority plannning decision NOT allowing the building of the 103 appartments on the site being overturned by shadowy figures behind closed doors of another government body.

    Not to mention the horrendous restrictions, castrating expense and hoops the owners are left jumping after an anonymous committee declares their house or asset a priceless historic asset. Small wonder that having paid 2.7 million for it they shut the doors and refused entry to ‘officials’ and by the looks of it there was then the standard tragic fire.

    Pity the planning authorities didn’t get involved when that horrifying edifice was built in what looks like the garden.


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    #36
    Church on Tuesday
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    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    "The O'Rahilly", a self proclaimed mythical title he bestowed upon himself :cool:

    Yup total Legend, died for his country too. :cool:


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    #37
    Church on Tuesday
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Did you visit it before it was demolished? Did anyone you know go to see it, and embrace it's history?

    I get the need to keep important buildings which have some definite meaning regarding the past... but I suspect that most of those complaining about the destruction of the building weren't interested in the building before now. And likely even if it hadn't been demolished, wouldn't have spent any time there anyway. What's the point of a building that nobody is interested in visiting, and considering that it was derelict, nobody was interested living in it either.

    Nope and now sadly I won't.

    I'm sure if it was done up and open to the public many would have. I would have.


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    #38
    fatknacker
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    Ah yes, the old the o rahilly house. A must see for every person who visits Dublin. I remember being brought there on school tours and we’d stand outside for hours touching the walls and imagining what people with a name “The” would have been doing when they lived there.


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    #39
    bobbyy gee
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    Money talks


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    #40
    StupidLikeAFox
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    The isn't some old house that used to be ownes by one of the ORahillys. It was owned by *the* orahilly


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    #41
    ShatterAlan
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    Infini wrote: »
    Honestly I think it's a bit of a stupid argument, the house was a derelict and falling apart, if it's so important it should have been bought and restored, realistically though what's the point in maintaining or listing structures that are of absolutely no use at all.

    It was the house of someone killed in the easter rising but that's all it was, a house. It has no real historic value, nothing of noteworthyness, nothing of real value it was just a house owned by someone from the rising.

    I honestly think if there's buildings that have real historic value then it should be maintained but some building's are being listed purely for the sake of it but are in such a delapidated and degraded condition that it would be better to just knock em and be done with it if noone is willing to restore and repair them. What's the point in maintaining an eyesore if it has no real value?




    The same could be said for Rembrandt's house and Anne Frank's house here in Amsterdam.

    He just painted a few crappy pictures and she just housed a bunch of hangers-on in the attic and scribbled a diary about it.

    An nice glass wine bar replete with tarty shot-waitresses should have been muscled in decades ago.


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    #42
    lawred2
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    ShatterAlan wrote: »
    The same could be said for Rembrandt's house and Anne Frank's house here in Amsterdam.

    He just painted a few crappy pictures and she just housed a bunch of hangers-on in the attic and scribbled a diary about it.

    An nice glass wine bar replete with tarty shot-waitresses should have been muscled in decades ago.

    Urm Anne Frank didn't house anyone. She was one of the "hangers on" in hiding.


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    #43
    Billcarson
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    Wonder were there any brown envelopes involved behind the scenes.


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    #44
    JustAThought
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    Billcarson wrote: »
    Wonder were there any brown envelopes involved behind the scenes.

    103 luxury apartments in Ballsbridge/Donnybrook where the local council had already refused planning permission and An Bord Pleanala mysteriously overruled it. Hmmmm ... let me look in my crystal ball...

    One of those planning jobs was up on Public Jobs a while back - I couldn’t believe my eyes - they were paid an absolute pittance. It beggars belief really. Eyes wide shut.


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    #45
    Islander13
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    ShatterAlan wrote: »
    The same could be said for Rembrandt's house and Anne Frank's house here in Amsterdam.

    He just painted a few crappy pictures and she just housed a bunch of hangers-on in the attic and scribbled a diary about it.

    An nice glass wine bar replete with tarty shot-waitresses should have been muscled in decades ago.

    Comparing the Anne Frank where she and her family hid for years from the Nazis within the walls in an interesting manner to the O'Rahilly house where the fella happened to live for a while is a massive stretch

    The area that should be preserved for the O'Rahilly is around Moore street where he died as an earlier poster said.


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    #46
    Beechwoodspark
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    Saw this on the news

    Looks like the developer pulled a fast one and demolished it before dublin council could assess the building ?


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    #47
    Billcarson
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    JustAThought wrote: »
    103 luxury apartments in Ballsbridge/Donnybrook where the local council had already refused planning permission and An Bord Pleanala mysteriously overruled it. Hmmmm ... let me look in my crystal ball...

    One of those planning jobs was up on Public Jobs a while back - I couldn’t believe my eyes - they were paid an absolute pittance. It beggars belief really. Eyes wide shut.

    A green space near where I live in ashbourne the builder was refused permission to build on it by meath County council. An Board Pleanala have now overruled that decision to the dismay of the residents. The only green space in their estate. Disgraceful.


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    #48
    Amirani
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    ShatterAlan wrote: »
    The same could be said for Rembrandt's house and Anne Frank's house here in Amsterdam.

    He just painted a few crappy pictures and she just housed a bunch of hangers-on in the attic and scribbled a diary about it.

    The keeping of the house that Anne Frank lived in clearly hasn't done much to help your knowledge of its history.

    That house is tied to a very significant historical document, and is the site of a notable event. This is not the case for O'Rahilly's house, unless you'd like to share one you know of?


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    #49
    i57dwun4yb1pt8
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    lawred2 wrote: »
    Urm Anne Frank didn't house anyone. She was one of the "hangers on" in hiding.


    do you even read Brah ?

    The Franks owned the house , and they housed themselves
    and the Van Pels family

    its one of the first things you read when you enter the house


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    #50
    Nexytus
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    Alexandra Tender Roofing wrote: »
    do you even read Brah ?

    The Franks owned the house , and they housed themselves
    and the Van Pels family

    its one of the first things you read when you enter the house


    The great life's works of Anne(hiding) happened in that particular building, that house.
    The O'Rahilly's great life's works happened in the GPO and the Moore Street area that they had a controlled retreat to before surrendering(and in Howth). The Ballsbridge house is just one of a number of houses that during the course of his private domestic life that he slept/eat/shat in. No historic or significant events whatsoever happened in that building. He may or may not have held an occasional snazzy dinner party there although history does not record such.


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    #51
    Edgware
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    corner of hells wrote: »
    I was going to visit it this weekend *






    *May not be true.

    Aenghus O Snodaigh was going to start running tours there as soon as his english proficiency was adequate


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    #52
    Edgware
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    lawred2 wrote: »
    Urm Anne Frank didn't house anyone. She was one of the "hangers on" in hiding.

    Big mistake though getting her that drum for Christmas


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    #53
    Markcheese
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    How many houses did the O Rahilly live in ? Should they all have been preserved ? Or the site of the houses never built on ...
    What about places he visited ,? Stayed in ?
    The same for all the other 1916 leaders ? What about the lads who weren't leaders ? Their houses ,where they grew up , where they worked ?

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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    #54
    Edgware
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    Markcheese wrote: »
    How many houses did the O Rahilly live in ? Should they all have been preserved ? Or the site of the houses never built on ...
    What about places he visited ,? Stayed in ?
    The same for all the other 1916 leaders ? What about the lads who weren't leaders ? Their houses ,where they grew up , where they worked ?

    Exactly. Why was the city rebuilt after the Rising? It should have been preserved in the memory of the dead


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    #55
    Quackster
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    Nexytus wrote: »
    An interesting character The O'Rahilly. Possibly his greatest achievement was getting people to use his name in the The_______ format.
    Yeah, he must have been one absolutely insufferable gobsh*te to be going around styling himself like that.

    Glad to see a derelict house removed and replaced with more suitable high-density housing.


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    #56
    Eric Cartman
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    this business of saving old buildings is a nightmare, we can either build housing or hold on to the past completely, not both. take interesting artefacts and put them in a museum, demolish the rest.


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    #57
    PopePalpatine
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    If only The O'Rahilly lived in a tenement, then his home would've stood for centuries more.


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    #58
    Odhinn
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    There should be an option on the census forms to register oneself as a "philistine".


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    #59
    Tenzor07
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    The house could easily have been preserved as a memorial or a museum to the rising and to one of the leaders of the 1916 rising, instead the foundations will soon be laid for €600,000+++ apartments that the vast majority of Irish people cannot afford... It will be yet another generic glass box that in the current economic climate will lay empty for years or be purchased as a temporary home for visiting executives who will use it as a serviced apartment...

    The destruction of a site now erases part of the history of our country and replaces it with a tax break for overseas investment funds...

    What a great country we have...nothing is sacred and no one will be punished for destroying this 100yr old house.


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    #60
    lawred2
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    Alexandra Tender Roofing wrote: »
    do you even read Brah ?

    The Franks owned the house , and they housed themselves
    and the Van Pels family

    its one of the first things you read when you enter the house

    I don't think that's right. I don't think the Frank's owned that house at all.

    Maybe you're right but it's not my recollection.


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    #61
    Spanish Eyes
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    It is gone now, forget about it. It was someone's house no more than that.

    Anyway better to spend money on that Moore Street dive that has so many associations with the Rising anyway. That place is a disgrace with cig smugglers, dodgy phone shops, and covers for many an issue. All bereft of Gardai and Customs too. Get down there quick!

    It's the spirit of the Rising.


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