FF/FG/Green Next Government

Bishop of hope · 30-09-2020 08:03AM

McMurphy wrote: »

Did you mean Jennifer Caroll MacNeill?

Didn't get to watch it last night, and doesn't look to be on the virgin player just yet, but she's the epitome of why FG lost the last election, she's got nothing of any note at all to offer except "but sure Sinn Fein" from any interview I've ever seen.

A particularly unpleasant and unlikeable character, you get the impression if she could cock her leg high enough, she'd take a dump on some folks heads.

Jesus, very insightful. Oatabix spoiled.
Good level of debate.

FrancieBrady · 30-09-2020 08:07AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

That wasn’t Jennifer, dude. Jen O’Connell is a hack for the Times. All those FG women are the same, eh?

Fair enough.
She isnt of much substance tbh...male or female.

Filleted by a better informed opponent. Then tried the snide insinuation distraction mambo stuff and got filleted some more.

Brendan Bendar · 30-09-2020 08:07AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Doherty is a profoundly stupid man. SF’s more vocal online supporter base seem to like him as he does a good line of breathless indignation. He has a very poor grasp of detail, mistakes fake outrage for passion in himself, and also gave a eulogy at the funeral of a psychopath in Belfast during lockdown.

A deeply flawed character.

That’s being kind John......

dundalkfc10 · 30-09-2020 08:11AM

christy c wrote: »

Not formidable at all, very good at soundbites but little substance. I'm blue in the face saying it but look at the ape wanting to spend Apple's money, potentially one of the most damaging decisions economically thus year if he had been in a position to implement it. Ff and FG for all their faults at least had the little bit of cop on needed to ignore him.

And don't forget the lovely sign he had printed up for the election about reducing the pension age, lapped up by the usual suspects here. Although in fairness, he seems to have dropped that one now (possibly after a conversation with someone in senior infants?).

A dangerous idiot.

Getting personal calling someone an Ape, when trying to have a debate is what seems to be the level FG and FF are at with SF.

The first proper opposition and the 2 former big parties can't deal and don't seem to be able to cope either.

smurgen · 30-09-2020 08:16AM

Pearse demolishing FG loudmouths and Leo the fifth pivoting like the lump he is copying his homework on insurance. No one the usual suspects are in here all pent up and angry. The Irish trumpers are a sight to be hold.

JohnnyFlash · 30-09-2020 08:17AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Fair enough.
She isnt of much substance tbh...male or female.

Filleted by a better informed opponent. Then tried the snide insinuation distraction mambo stuff and got filleted some more.

So you watched a debate on Tv and didn’t even pick up the name of one of the people involved?Might be stretching yourself a bit thin with the old current affairs stuff, Francie. I doubt you’d have made the same mistake if it was a man that Doherty was up against.

christy c · 30-09-2020 08:21AM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Getting personal calling someone an Ape, when trying to have a debate is what seems to be the level FG and FF are at with SF.

The first proper opposition and the 2 former big parties can't deal and don't seem to be able to cope either.

Well I thought an ape was the best summation of his completely stupid actions over the years, although I agree i could have phrased it better.

FrancieBrady · 30-09-2020 08:22AM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Getting personal calling someone an Ape, when trying to have a debate is what seems to be the level FG and FF are at with SF.

The first proper opposition and the 2 former big parties can't deal and don't seem to be able to cope either.

I find this particular bitchiness funny tbh.They have never forgiven Doherty for embarrasing Noonan over the fiscal space.

He will forever be characterised as an idiot for that. I find him very well prepared and he is a politician who doesn't stoop into the gutter when he is under pressure. His gutting of O'Carroll was text book stuff, he gave her the rope and she took it.

christy c · 30-09-2020 08:23AM

smurgen wrote: »

Pearse demolishing FG loudmouths and Leo the fifth pivoting like the lump he is copying his homework on insurance. No one the usual suspects are in here all pent up and angry. The Irish trumpers are a sight to be hold.

Speaking about Leo the fifth and then referring to other posters as trumpers. I see your self awareness hasn't improved.

JohnnyFlash · 30-09-2020 08:23AM

In fairness Doherty never actually gutted anyone. Not like some of the SF members of the assembly.....

smurgen · 30-09-2020 08:23AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Doherty is a profoundly stupid man. SF’s more vocal online supporter base seem to like him as he does a good line of breathless indignation. He has a very poor grasp of detail, mistakes fake outrage for passion in himself, and also gave a eulogy at the funeral of a psychopath in Belfast during lockdown.

A deeply flawed character.

If he's stupid what's Leo the lump? Buddy to John Delayney. Didn't have a clue of D’Arcy, oining the Irish Association of Investment Managers

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/leo-varadkar-john-delaney-shouldn-t-have-to-resign-over-unusual-loan-1.3833023?mode=amp#.X2jVlkU7HHU.twitter

FrancieBrady · 30-09-2020 08:26AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

So you watched a debate on Tv and didn’t even pick up the name of one of the people involved?Might be stretching yourself a bit thin with the old current affairs stuff, Francie. I doubt you’d have made the same mistake if it was a man that Doherty was up against.

Ah that's a bit desperate Johnny. She isn't a memorable person tbh, man or woman.

JohnnyFlash · 30-09-2020 08:27AM

I love the idea that the current Government couldn’t do anything about insurance reform just because Doherty had a good day of fake indignation at a committee meeting a few years back.

It’s proper Shinnerlogic and shows they don’t even know how legislation gets drafted. Stick to the Wolfe Tones playlists lads, and leave the running of the country to parties who actually recognise the legitimacy of the place.

christy c · 30-09-2020 08:27AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I find this particular bitchiness funny tbh.They have never forgiven Doherty for embarrasing Noonan over the fiscal space.

He will forever be characterised as an idiot for that. I find him very well prepared and he is a politician who doesn't stoop into the gutter when he is under pressure. His gutting of O'Carroll was text book stuff, he gave her the rope and she took it.

Good that you find it funny because if you are referring to me then it is your imagination.

Nothing to do with fiscal space, its to do with the breath taking nonsense he has come out with time and again. And the tactic of yourself and other SF fans seems to be to just ignore it and hope it goes away. I'll wait to see how you twist reducing the pension age and spending money that doesn't belong to us as good.

Yurt2 · 30-09-2020 08:33AM

smurgen wrote: »

Pearse demolishing FG loudmouths and Leo the fifth pivoting like the lump he is copying his homework on insurance. No one the usual suspects are in here all pent up and angry. The Irish trumpers are a sight to be hold.

This is the long and the short of it. FG don't know how to take an L with dignity no matter what the scoreline after 90 mins.

They should sleep on it and resolve to be a less sh*t version of themselves, as they've a long season ahead of them.

smurgen · 30-09-2020 08:33AM

A deeply flawed character lol. Can't even stand up for himself. No character. All about the money with Leo the Fifth.

https://twitter.com/PatrickMehone/status/1263872978179239938?s=19

FrancieBrady · 30-09-2020 08:33AM

christy c wrote: »

Good that you find it funny because if you are referring to me then it is your imagination.

Nothing to do with fiscal space, its to do with the breath taking nonsense he has come out with time and again. And the tactic of yourself and other SF fans seems to be to just ignore it and hope it goes away. I'll wait to see how you twist reducing the pension age and spending money that doesn't belong to us as good.

You'd be taken seriously as impartial christy if you criticised other financial policy you thought silly that was actually implemented.

Bishop of hope · 30-09-2020 08:33AM

I'm getting in on the level of this debate.
If Marylou can remember or do the macarena then how could she possibly run this country.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSum9r6T/

Maybe Pearse would be good at that.

Brendan Bendar · 30-09-2020 08:39AM

Donegal partied while Pearse was asleep.

What is the first thing he does, correct, call for more money for those who facilitated the outbreak.

Doesn’t believe in upsetting the locals, does the bould Pearse.

Tough decisions ..nah mate.... spend the Apple money......

Then when that’s gone start ‘calling’ for more.....

Complete joke.

christy c · 30-09-2020 08:45AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You'd be taken seriously as impartial christy if you criticised other financial policy you thought silly that was actually implemented.

Doesn't bother me if SF fans don't think I'm impartial. And anyway I'm not, I despise SF for the braindead nonsense they have come out with time and again.

FrancieBrady · 30-09-2020 08:52AM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Donegal partied while Pearse was asleep.

What is the first thing he does, correct, call for more money for those who facilitated the outbreak.

Doesn’t believe in upsetting the locals, does the bould Pearse.

Tough decisions ..nah mate.... spend the Apple money......

Then when that’s gone start ‘calling’ for more.....

Complete joke.

That's when Jennifer got embarrassed the most last night, when she tried that tack. She got hit with a list of what other countries were doing and how that was designed to stimulate the economy all around. She had no answer.
Also pointed out what all border dwellers know - that the border works both ways. Blanch's contention that it was the north that was endangering the south was also thrown out with the fact that several areas of Donegal had higher levels of Covid than the north.

You are struggling Brendi.

FrancieBrady · 30-09-2020 08:56AM

christy c wrote: »

Doesn't bother me if SF fans don't think I'm impartial. And anyway I'm not, I despise SF for the braindead nonsense they have come out with time and again.

We'd have some fun compiling a list of 'braindead' policies over the years christy!

Nobotty · 30-09-2020 08:58AM

smurgen wrote: »

A deeply flawed character lol. Can't even stand up for himself. No character. All about the money with Leo the Fifth.

https://twitter.com/PatrickMehone/status/1263872978179239938?s=19

You just called gay men and women over the decades deeply flawed
This is grossly offensive dirty abuse
As someone who campaigned in that referendum, most of us knew what politicians had to do for decades right up until a referendum was called in order to maintain their position of quietly getting on with things in the closet
Whats maddening aswell about trotting out that is,we are trying to argue that politicians should provide what the public want and not the politicians private agendas (eg Sen Darcy) yet here we are with a poster pulling out this randomly for the sake of it
Cop on

christy c · 30-09-2020 09:02AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

We'd have some fun compiling a list of 'braindead' policies over the years christy!

Plenty of them no doubt, but not much point compiling them if you just stick your head in the sand when it comes to SF ones.

dundalkfc10 · 30-09-2020 09:09AM

https://twitter.com/SMacB/status/1310991567117783041?s=19

How do these characters not get called ou lt on this by the mainstream media. Shambolic country

FrancieBrady · 30-09-2020 09:10AM

christy c wrote: »

Plenty of them no doubt, but not much point compiling them if you just stick your head in the sand when it comes to SF ones.

Afraid you cannot hook me on that one christy.

On record as saying that I think SF are ready to share governance not to rule on their own.

I think we have such a dismal line-up in economic competence across the political spectrum that none of them are capable or should be allowed to govern alone. One tempers the other or coalition, as it is called beckons for quite some time I fear.

FrancieBrady · 30-09-2020 09:11AM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SMacB/status/1310991567117783041?s=19

How do these characters not get called ou lt on this by the mainstream media. Shambolic country

A bit like Leo called out SF for handing out food parcels...almost instantly people were posting pics of Eoghan Murphy actually using 'handing out parcels' as a photo op.

blanch152 · 30-09-2020 09:13AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

That's when Jennifer got embarrassed the most last night, when she tried that tack. She got hit with a list of what other countries were doing and how that was designed to stimulate the economy all around. She had no answer.
Also pointed out what all border dwellers know - that the border works both ways. Blanch's contention that it was the north that was endangering the south was also thrown out with the fact that several areas of Donegal had higher levels of Covid than the north.

You are struggling Brendi.

Nonsense again. Earlier this week, one of the daily case counts in Northern Ireland was higher than the daily count in Ireland, despite it only being one-third of the population. Record numbers of cases in Northern Ireland at the moment and consistently worrying trends. Pearse would be better off getting on to Michelle to sort things out rather than complaining about the Dublin government.

christy c · 30-09-2020 09:14AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Afraid you cannot hook me on that one christy.

On record as saying that I think SF are ready to share governance not to rule on their own.

I think we have such a dismal line-up in economic competence across the political spectrum that none of them are capable or should be allowed to govern alone. One tempers the other or coalition, as it is called beckons for quite some time I fear.

Yes I most certainly can hook you, you are still waiting for the Apple tax to be over, despite it being abundantly clear that it was exceptionally stupid to want to spend it only a few short months ago. Also don't remember reading your comments on SF and others wanting to reduce the pension age despite the looming time bomb.

I do agree that we have dismal economic competence, some worse than others though.

JohnnyFlash · 30-09-2020 09:15AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

A bit like Leo called out SF for handing out food parcels...almost instantly people were posting pics of Eoghan Murphy actually using 'handing out parcels' as a photo op.

One was meals on wheels. The other was the government handing out food to families in danger of food poverty in one of the most socially and economically disadvantaged places in Western Europe. Northern Ireland. A basket case partly overseen by SF.

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