US Presidential Election 2020

eire4 · 29-09-2020 5:15pm

namloc1980 wrote: »

The debate is 90 minutes uninterrupted. These rules were set down by the Commission on Presidential Debates in October 2019. There was never any suggestion of 30 minute breaks or the likes either.

https://www.debates.org/2019/10/11/commission-on-presidential-debates-announces-sites-and-dates-for-2020-general-election-debates-and-2020-nonpartisan-candidate-selection-criteria/

Trump is just laying the groundwork for his excuses after the debate.

Thanks for the correction on the no ad breaks. Given this is coming from the co owned corporation know as the commission on presidential debates the president cannot complain as the Republicans co own the company.

Itssoeasy · 29-09-2020 5:30pm

namloc1980 wrote: »

The debate is 90 minutes uninterrupted. These rules were set down by the Commission on Presidential Debates in October 2019. There was never any suggestion of 30 minute breaks or the likes either.

https://www.debates.org/2019/10/11/commission-on-presidential-debates-announces-sites-and-dates-for-2020-general-election-debates-and-2020-nonpartisan-candidate-selection-criteria/

Trump is just laying the groundwork for his excuses after the debate.

Ah so Trump was doing a version of “many people are saying” but with the debate.

Quin_Dub · 29-09-2020 5:40pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Ah so Trump was doing a version of “many people are saying” but with the debate.

Apparently Biden asked for 2 breaks , one at 30 minutes and one at 60 minutes - Not sure if that's accurate , but that's what the article on Fox said.

In terms of the ear piece and drug test requests , that's Trump laying the groundwork for potential excuses if it doesn't go well tonight.

Biden has already told him to get stuffed regarding the Drug tests and may do the same with the ear piece question.

So Trump at least has the "He must have been using PED's" excuse in the bag.

StringerBell · 29-09-2020 5:45pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

There are some interesting videos for tonight on sky bet

To win based on CNN (cue outrage by Trump supporters) snap poll Biden 1/4 Trump 11/4

3/1 for the words "unfit for office" to be used

A decent 5/1 for disinfectant and 6/1 for greatest president ever you could even get 25/1 for Megan Markle getting a mention.

3/1 is surely the easiest money bet of the year?

Timberrrrrrrr · 29-09-2020 5:55pm

StringerBell wrote: »

3/1 is surely the easiest money bet of the year?

Might do a wee double with "greatest president ever"

Edit: can't do multiples so I have done two single bets on "greatest president ever" and "unfit for office" to get mentioned by either candidate during the debate.

I love how sky bet have a debate bingo section

Gunmonkey · 29-09-2020 6:34pm

Quin_Dub wrote: »

So Trump at least has the "He must have been using PED's" excuse in the bag.

Well now if we dont get a 'roided up Biden strut into the debate then flexing and hulking out of his suit halfway through before trashing the set, roaring "Biden SMASH!"......Im gonna be very disappointed!

duploelabs · 29-09-2020 8:01pm

Gunmonkey wrote: »

Well now if we dont get a 'roided up Biden strut into the debate then flexing and hulking out of his suit halfway through before trashing the set, roaring "Biden SMASH!"......Im gonna be very disappointed!

I want big Jim Ross to shout' Oh Ma Gawd Oh Ma Gawd, It's BERNIE, AND HE'S GOT A STEEL CHAIR'

Mr.Nice Guy · 29-09-2020 8:53pm

I wish Biden well. The thought of four more years of Trump makes me feel queasy. I must say though I'm concerned.

What worries me about the debates is Trump will go very low and personal, essentially trying to concoct a series of memes to be unleashed in ads for the coming weeks. Problem for Biden in that scenario is if he tries to rise above it and not get caught in a tit-for-tat exchange, that could be construed as weakness on his part. And if he goes toe to toe with him in such exchanges, it may not come off well either. As Mark Twain once put it, "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."

everlast75 · 29-09-2020 9:57pm

I wonder what 2012 Trump thinks of Biden in a debate...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/256466457968381955?s=19

Frank Bullitt · 29-09-2020 9:59pm

everlast75 wrote: »

I wonder what 2012 Trump thinks of Biden in a debate...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/256466457968381955?s=19

Honestly, there is a tweet for everything.

everlast75 · 29-09-2020 11:29pm

Interesting.

Only 6% claim to be undecided ahead of the first debate..

https://twitter.com/CBSNewsPoll/status/1311061358989934593?s=19

everlast75 · 29-09-2020 11:59pm

everlast75 wrote: »

I wonder what 2012 Trump thinks of Biden in a debate...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/256466457968381955?s=19

I know what future Trump thinks about the debate tonight...

https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1311068232976080896?s=19

StringerBell · 30-09-2020 12:45am

So keep America great has been ditched completely then.....isn't that an admission that he failed to make America great again ?

BonnieSituation · 30-09-2020 2:16am

Mother of God.

Mics need to be cut off.

Wallace really needs to rein him in.

Tippex · 30-09-2020 2:19am

I am not surprised at Trump here fully expected him to be like this talking over and not actually ansering wallaces question

BonnieSituation · 30-09-2020 2:21am

Good response from Biden.

Tippex · 30-09-2020 2:43am

Biden is so good at speaking to the viewers, not once has Trump looked to speak to the camera.

He is still getting under Biden’s skin

BonnieSituation · 30-09-2020 2:48am

He gets under everyone's skin. It's all he can do.

Biden has lost his cool but has lost it well, ie. just didn't tell him to "f**k off" which is what I think most would have done.

Wallace is being a lot harder on Biden on theoreticals than he is on Trump for things he ACTUALLY done. It's disappointing.

Outlaw Pete · 30-09-2020 4:31am

Tippex wrote: »

Biden is so good at speaking to the viewers, not once has Trump looked to speak to the camera.

It's supposed to be a debate. Not an address to the nation. Biden constantly looking at the camera just came across rehearsed. We didn't need a Presidential Debate to see Biden speaking to the camera, he can do that from his basement.

Lying about Trump calling dead soldiers losers (and using his deceased son as a prop) won't go down well with those might have voted for him but know that to be a lie.

Trump under performed though and Biden should have capitalized but didn't.

Wallace very biased with some of his "questions" but that's to be expected from him.

Either way, doubt the needle moved much on either as far as the electorate is concerned.

Tippex · 30-09-2020 4:40am

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

It's supposed to be a debate. Not an address to the nation. Biden constantly looking at the camera just came across rehearsed. We didn't need a Presidential Debate to see Biden speaking to the camera, he can do that from his basement.

Lying about Trump calling dead soldiers losers (and using his deceased son as a prop) won't go down well with those might have voted for him but know that to be a lie.

Trump under performed though and Biden should have capitalized but didn't.

Wallace very biased with some of his "questions" but that's to be expected from him.

Either way, doubt the needle moved much on either as far as the electorate is concerned.

I disagree about the addressing the people of america part.

What about all the shouting and the lies from trump around the vaccine being very close, the voter fraud etc?
Never mind Trump not denouncing White Supremacy.

Questions are always going to be biased but at the end of the day I honestly did not hear any actual policy from Trump and only bits from Biden.

That “debate” was not Presidential whatsoever.

Outlaw Pete · 30-09-2020 5:13am

Tippex wrote: »

What about all the shouting and the lies from trump around the vaccine being very close, the voter fraud etc?

You could say some of it was exaggerated maybe, but it's far from "lies":

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/518073-nine-military-ballots-that-were-cast-for-trump-found-improperly-discarded
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mail-in-ballots-ditch-wisconsin/

Also, Biden kept talking about absentee ballots which are solicited and Trump has always said he's fine with them (including auto-solicitation which some States have) but it's the other non-solicited ballots which Trump takes issue with.

Never mind Trump not denouncing White Supremacy.

Oh please. That's nothing but a 'When did you stop beating your wife?' question as Wallace knows well he has condemned White Supremacy multiple times, even in addresses to the nation for heaven sake. It's a disgraceful question at this stage.

If you go to the following clip at 1m 10s you'll see that Trump has even condemned them to Chris Wallace before, at a debate in 2016:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhSpNwhNOlo

And now as we speak liberals are going nuts on Twitter saying Trump was dog whistling to Neo Nazis. This crap never stops and true to form, the liberal media do their bit and amplify this nonsense:

Questions are always going to be biased but at the end of the day I honestly did not hear any actual policy from Trump and only bits from Biden.

That “debate” was not Presidential whatsoever.

I agree. Very poor debate for anyone tuning in to hear about proposed policy.

Tell me how · 30-09-2020 5:21am

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

And now as we speak liberals are going nuts on Twitter saying Trump was dog whistling to Neo Nazis. This crap never stops and true to form, the liberal media do their bit and amplify this nonsense:

Proud Boys think he was talking to them...

https://twitter.com/AlKapDC/status/1311134771171545089

30-09-2020 5:25am

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

it's the other non-solicited ballots which Trump takes issue with.

The 80 million ballots he keeps saying?

Here are the states automatically sending ballots for this election:

Colorado - Already did
Oregon - Already did
Utah - Already did
Hawaii - Already did
Washington - Already did

The new ones doing it:

California
Vermont
Nevada
New Jersey
DC.

Which of those is the worry exactly? They're gonna steal Utah?

dwayneshintzy · 30-09-2020 5:27am

Deleted User wrote: »

The 80 million ballots he keeps saying?

Here are the states automatically sending ballots for this election:

Colorado - Already did
Oregon - Already did
Utah - Already did
Hawaii - Already did
Washington - Already did

The new ones doing it:

California
Vermont
Nevada
New Jersey
DC.

Which of those is the worry exactly? They're gonna steal Utah?

Trump was gonna win California without postal votes, obviously.

Brian? · 30-09-2020 5:34am

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

It's supposed to be a debate. Not an address to the nation. Biden constantly looking at the camera just came across rehearsed. We didn't need a Presidential Debate to see Biden speaking to the camera, he can do that from his basement.

Lying about Trump calling dead soldiers losers (and using his deceased son as a prop) won't go down well with those might have voted for him but know that to be a lie.

Trump under performed though and Biden should have capitalized but didn't.

Wallace very biased with some of his "questions" but that's to be expected from him.

Either way, doubt the needle moved much on either as far as the electorate is concerned.

What questions were biased? Asking Trump to denounce white nationalists?

This wasn’t a debate, it was a shouting match. Biden lost his cool because Trump is an arrogant blowhard and a clown.

Cancel the other debates now. They’ll just be more of the same.

Outlaw Pete · 30-09-2020 5:39am

Tell me how wrote: »

Proud Boys think he was talking to them...

The Proud Boys are gentlemen.

Refused to go to Charlottlesville and threw one of their members out when he attended alone.

What's laughable is referring to them as white supremacists.

They roughed a few Antifa thugs who had waited for them outside a meeting and who threw bottles of urine at them, but that's hardly objectionable.

Brian? · 30-09-2020 6:04am

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

The Proud Boys are gentlemen.

Refused to go to Charlottlesville and threw one of their members out when he attended alone.

What's laughable is referring to them as white supremacists.

They roughed a few Antifa thugs who had waited for them outside a meeting and who threw bottles of urine at them, but that's hardly objectionable.

You think Donald Trump is a decent and genuine guy. You think the proud boys are gentlemen. Then you expect us to to take anything you say seriously?

The proud boys are thugs. You can ague they aren't white nationalists, but there is no reasonable argument to be made for them being gentlemen.

California Dreamer · 30-09-2020 6:06am

Former White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney was in Ireland last week and gave an interview on Six-One News. He said he only expected 1 debate and that Trump would find a reason not to do the other 2 debates. I was thinking no way but as the Dana Bash from CNN said, that was a sh1tshow!!! Would we even want another 2 debates after that?

everlast75 · 30-09-2020 6:18am

"Will you shut up man?"

Do you think Trump has EVER had that said to him?

That was good for the soul.

Chips Lovell · 30-09-2020 6:33am

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