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FrancieBrady · 28-09-2020 11:13PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Ya, we could aspire to a society where the government hands out food parcels.

I'm sure Leo and Eoghan can come up with better photo ops than that, their last one got rumbled.

McMurphy · 29-09-2020 06:32AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Ya, we could aspire to a society where the government hands out food parcels.

Already been done.

https://twitter.com/RanelaghCR/status/1258116689813811200?s=20

Is the findings of the Siteserv inquiry supposed to be due out today or tomorrow?

Could be a very busy few days of defelction and defence incoming.

Brendan Bendar · 29-09-2020 07:23AM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

They won't even do that, it's volunteers left to do it up and down the country every day

Some folk around here might be happier in North Korea.

Want the State to do everything for them, it seems

FrancieBrady · 29-09-2020 07:29AM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Some folk around here might be happier in North Korea.

Want the State to do everything for them, it seems

Yeh...banks can't even lobby for themselves...stealing our TD's!

Brendan Bendar · 29-09-2020 07:34AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yeh...banks can't even lobby for themselves...stealing our TD's!

I suppose we can be thankful they don’t shoot state employees in the head, though.

FrancieBrady · 29-09-2020 07:46AM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

I suppose we can be thankful they don’t shoot state employees in the head, though.

Don't be talking about the old days Brendi, try and stay in the real world of now. Anyone would think you are trying the old deflection mambo again.

Brendan Bendar · 29-09-2020 07:58AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Don't be talking about the old days Brendi, try and stay in the real world of now. Anyone would think you are trying the old deflection mambo again.

Aah just throwing out a few facts Mr B.

I suppose we can’t discuss the past if we only feature one ‘side’.

Surely that’s not what folk want on here........or is it......:eek:

A soapbox provided by the good folk of Boards for the lads to sling mud at those running our state without response.!!!!

Jaysus, An Poblacht would be more balanced than that F.

The auld ‘gable wall’ murals might be a better option in that case....:cool:

FrancieBrady · 29-09-2020 08:03AM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Aah just throwing out a few facts Mr B.

I suppose we can’t discuss the past if we only feature one ‘side’.

Surely that’s not what folk want on here........or is it......:eek:

A soapbox provided by the good folk of Boards for the lads to sling mud at those running our state without response.!!!!

Jaysus, An Poblacht would be more balanced than that F.

The auld ‘gable wall’ murals might be a better option in that case....:cool:

Any chance of you living in the here and now Brendi?

If there is a threat to public officials then your party shouldn't be backing the GFA...let them present some fecking evidence of this concern, as is their duty to us all, or shut up and put up and take responsibility for what they are doing.

Just a thought.

blanch152 · 29-09-2020 08:27AM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Some folk around here might be happier in North Korea.

Want the State to do everything for them, it seems

I think that the objective of PBP and Sinn Fein to make everyone equally poor has a certain resonance in North Korea.

Nobotty · 29-09-2020 09:25AM

smurgen wrote: »

Great points being made here from Dr.Mike Ryan of the WHO. Covid after really showing the underlying issues of how our country is managed. Personal responsibility is only part of the issue.

https://twitter.com/benphillips76/status/1310469477910315008?s=19

Not a centilla of personal responsibility in Galway last night
1000's of students out in the Arch,no soc distancing and no masks and mocking people that have them
Its all over the news and Claire Byrne, not the senator thing
Pub owner on refusing to say they should quarantine
OF course he is,he wants their money
I'm livid at those 'fresher' ar5eholes :mad:
This is a once in a lifetime thing and not an ounce of cop on

JohnnyFlash · 29-09-2020 09:28AM

Nobotty wrote: »

Not a centilla of personal responsibility in Galway last night
1000's of students out in the Arch,no soc distancing and no masks and mocking people that have them
Its all over the news and Claire Byrne, not the senator thing
Pub owner on refusing to say they should quarantine
OF course he is,he wants their money
I'm livid at those 'fresher' ar5eholes :mad:
This is a once in a lifetime thing and not an ounce of cop on

Galway going to Level 3 is a certainty. It’s the Government’s fault of course.

McMurphy · 29-09-2020 09:30AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Galway going to Level 3 is a certainty. It’s the Government’s fault of course.

Someone will be along soon to blame the shinners and the DUPers for spreading it John.

JohnnyFlash · 29-09-2020 09:35AM

McMurphy wrote: »

Someone will be along soon to blame the shinners and the DUPers for spreading it John.

Norn Iron has enough issues of its own, Murph. £100 per week payments, food parcels, raising local authority rents during the pandemic, raising business rates, deputy leader breaking her own advice to attend a fake funeral.

Wouldn’t be taking advice from either of those parties to be honest. Incompetent.

FrancieBrady · 29-09-2020 09:39AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Norn Iron has enough issues of its own, Murph. £100 per week payments, food parcels, raising local authority rents during the pandemic, raising business rates, deputy leader breaking her own advice to attend a fake funeral.

Wouldn’t be taking advice from either of those parties to be honest. Incompetent.

Probably why it is called a 'failed state'.

But the FGers will refute that strenuously if it suits them and the nexus of Britain and Unionists and the disaster they made of partition are being blamed for that failure.

Nobotty · 29-09-2020 09:54AM

Yeah,can't blame Sinn Féin for UK social welfare rates
It does shine a window though into the need to ask why social welfare needs to be so high in this country
Mismanagement and pandering to populism
All parties fostering the latter
Socialist parties demonising if you make a few bob and raising expectations that the state should provide
Rest of the parties competing
People for being stupid

blanch152 · 29-09-2020 12:25PM

Nobotty wrote: »

Yeah,can't blame Sinn Féin for UK social welfare rates
It does shine a window though into the need to ask why social welfare needs to be so high in this country
Mismanagement and pandering to populism
All parties fostering the latter
Socialist parties demonising if you make a few bob and raising expectations that the state should provide
Rest of the parties competing
People for being stupid

We are constantly being told by SF types that social welfare here is too low.

Floppybits · 29-09-2020 12:48PM

blanch152 wrote: »

We are constantly being told by SF types that social welfare here is too low.

Is it that social welfare is too low or the cost of living is too high?

dundalkfc10 · 29-09-2020 12:51PM

What's a Sinn Féin type?

Eric Cartman · 29-09-2020 12:53PM

Floppybits wrote: »

Is it that social welfare is too low or the cost of living is too high?

both are too high, the cost of food and basic services and especially rent inflated by the welfare being too high.

Yurt2 · 29-09-2020 12:54PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

What's a Sinn Féin type?

Anyone they choose. They be the boogeyman that have delicate FG types shook so they'll throw the dart at anyone the disagree with.

dundalkfc10 · 29-09-2020 01:12PM

When Mary Lou put to MM that people are not looking mortage breaks forever, they should last through the pandemic and other European Countries have offered longer breaks than Ireland and the issues over D'Arcy's new big job.

In his response MM stated, SIPO not been able to investigate SF fundrasising overseas worries him.

That is all you need to know about FF

Truthvader · 29-09-2020 01:16PM

Yurt! wrote: »

Anyone they choose. They be the boogeyman that have delicate FG types shook so they'll throw the dart at anyone the disagree with.

Those damned delicate FG types. Why cant they just get ever themselves and just forget about all the murders bombings and mutilation of children. The miserable stuck up bastards

Yurt2 · 29-09-2020 01:18PM

Truthvader wrote: »

Those damned delicate FG types. Why cant they just get ever themselves and just forget about all the murders bombings and mutilation of children. The miserable stuck up bastards

Boogeyman politics. You don't care a jot for victims of the troubles of any stripe.

Yurt2 · 29-09-2020 01:23PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

When Mary Lou put to MM that people are not looking mortage breaks forever, they should last through the pandemic and other European Countries have offered longer breaks than Ireland and the issues over D'Arcy's new big job.

In his response MM stated, SIPO not been able to investigate SF fundrasising overseas worries him.

That is all you need to know about FF

Both FF and FG hold fundraisers in the UK. What precisely is the difference I wonder? That SF raise more?

I'm aware that regulation (law?) is that overseas donations may only come from Irish nationals, but are FF and FG seriously making the case that they are doing due diligence on the nationality of attendees at their overseas fundraisers and they are turning away people at exclusive hotels in London? Come off it. This is bogus stuff from Martin.

Floppybits · 29-09-2020 01:29PM

Yurt! wrote: »

Both FF and FG hold fundraisers in the UK. What precisely is the difference I wonder? That SF raise more?

I'm aware that regulation (law?) is that overseas donations may only come from Irish nationals, but are FF and FG seriously making the case that they are doing due diligence on the nationality at their overseas fundraisers and they are turning away people at exclusive hotels in London on the basis of their nationality? Come off it. This is bogus stuff from Martin.

The way supporters of FF and FG go on you swear that the 2 parties were whiter than white.

Martin is right in that SIPO should be checking on all this and all party donations should be scrutinized. You would swear that FF and FG are whiter than white when it comes to funding and looking at things now you would have to ask yourself are FG in the pockets of the banks like FF were in the pockets of the developers.

Truthvader · 29-09-2020 01:31PM

Yurt! wrote: »

Boogeyman politics. You don't care a jot for victims of the troubles of any stripe.

I know. If only I had the love and concern for others of Mary Lou or Dessie Ellis or any of the rest of them.

Yurt2 · 29-09-2020 02:08PM

Truthvader wrote: »

I know. If only I had the love and concern for others of Mary Lou or Dessie Ellis or any of the rest of them.

You can say what you want about Sinn Fein, and there is a lot to say about all the actors in the multi-sided conflict in the North, there were very few angels when you look back through the years.

But the reality is the are one of the most important parties at the coalface trying to make the institutions and society work up there, with a mandate of hundreds of thousands of people in their communities that they represent. Crow all you want, that's the reality.

The Good Friday Agreement is a punchline to you and your ilk, and the Troubles are reduced to a political stick to beat political opponents. The conflict is fading into the rear-view mirror of history, but for some reason that makes you mad.

The parties and the communities up there are the people making peace, not foghorns down south that are trembling at an alternative political force. I sometimes think that status-quo political interests in the south pang for the conflict to come back so their neo-Eoghan Harris-style tactics would actually make a modicum of sense.

FrancieBrady · 29-09-2020 02:13PM

Truthvader wrote: »

Those damned delicate FG types. Why cant they just get ever themselves and just forget about all the murders bombings and mutilation of children. The miserable stuck up bastards

They more or less ignored it when it was happening and it is 'only' a concern now when SF need to be taken down a peg or two.

Nobotty · 29-09-2020 02:13PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

When Mary Lou put to MM that people are not looking mortage breaks forever, they should last through the pandemic and other European Countries have offered longer breaks than Ireland and the issues over D'Arcy's new big job.

In his response MM stated, SIPO not been able to investigate SF fundrasising overseas worries him.

That is all you need to know about FF

A lot of countries don't allow foreign donations including GB and the USA
That chap in Wales who donated all that money in his will to Sinn Féin was a foreigner and not even qualifying for Irish citizenship,he was English
Sinn Féin got nearly 2.5 million Euros from him which legitimately explains a lot of their property
I do think money for parties should come only from the parties own country and that money should have been donated to the homeless or something

Apparently the man involved was deranged

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-50409211

smurgen · 29-09-2020 02:16PM

FG are the party of white collar crime.

FF/FG/Green Next Government

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