Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

Deeper Blue · 27-09-2020 06:55PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

Exactly there should be an immediate nationwide lockdown from now until February. The numbers are too high and if people won't behave themselves then they'll be taught to. Sick of it now.

The lockdown at our peak was for 7 weeks. Why would we now need one lasting nearly 3 times that?

road_high · 27-09-2020 07:03PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I would totally agree, but can you imagine trying to implement the fines. The courts would be clogged with people trying to defend themselves. On the other hand I'm surprised nobody has apparently attempted to sue somebody/organisation over catching Covid.

Which proves what a complete failure these restrictions are- you simply cannot reach into the heads and minds of all private individuals and seek to control their private behaviours.

screamer · 27-09-2020 07:06PM

DeanAustin wrote: »

Bollox, it’ll ruin the country and some people won’t adhere anyway. We need to get real and learn to live with and manage this virus.

Unfortunately unless the gob****es who do as they please change their behaviour and do what is needed, there’ll be no way to manage the virus. It’s not about managing the virus but controlling the idiots spreading it. Unfortunately in this country, personal responsibility is something our brave and fearless leaders don’t want to enforce, so lockdowns are the only way. Stupid really, but there it is.

manniot2 · 27-09-2020 07:07PM

People have given up and you can’t blame them. As the Swedes said, lockdown fatigue was inevitable.

screamer · 27-09-2020 07:09PM

road_high wrote: »

Which proves what a complete failure these restrictions are- you simply cannot reach into the heads and minds of all private individuals and seek to control their private behaviours.

Maybe we should reach into their pockets, that might make them more inclined to change their behaviours.

spookwoman · 27-09-2020 07:14PM

Todays report sorry bit late due to Gov.ie statement page going awol

road_high · 27-09-2020 07:15PM

screamer wrote: »

Maybe we should reach into their pockets, that might make them more inclined to change their behaviours.

Nah, won’t work. You people are obsessed with controlling people for whatever reason- gone beyond fanaticism really.
All you can control is your own behaviors and there’s ample opportunities to control ones own and protect yourself if you’re that worried

rooney30 · 27-09-2020 07:16PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

Exactly there should be an immediate nationwide lockdown from now until February. The numbers are too high and if people won't behave themselves then they'll be taught to. Sick of it now.

It’s comments like this that have made this thread almost unreadable

Funsterdelux · 27-09-2020 07:16PM

Michael Martin has decided to implement a City only lockdown in Cork.

He has employed a man with a great deal of experience and expertise in this area.

flanna01 · 27-09-2020 07:17PM

Death rates nowhere near the same as the first wave...

The aged and medically impaired are more aware of personal protective measures now.

Much of ado about nothing me thinks..

Too many doom and gloom merchants forecasting (hoping for) end of days scenario's... Sorry kiddo's .. This isn't it.

Irreversible global warming is the one to get yer britches up in a bunch about.. Not this!

stephenjmcd · 27-09-2020 07:18PM

rooney30 wrote: »

It’s comments like this that have made this thread almost unreadable

His comment last few days have made it quite clear that he's only looking for a reaction.

Wouldn't even bother.

growleaves · 27-09-2020 07:18PM

El Sueño wrote: »

The lockdown at our peak was for 7 weeks. Why would we now need one lasting nearly 3 times that?

He doesn't know.

"From a public health point of view we should turn the country into a prison."

This isn't the cutting edge of medicine, its gibberish. Even NPHET are only improvising.

manniot2 · 27-09-2020 07:19PM

flanna01 wrote: »

Death rates nowhere near the same as the first wave...

The aged and medically impaired are more aware of personal protective measures now.

Much of ado about nothing me thinks..

Too many doom and gloom merchants forecasting (hoping for) end of days scenario's... Sorry kiddo's .. This isn't it.

Irreversible global warming is the one to get yer britches up in a bunch about.. Not this!

Take cover

CiarraiManc · 27-09-2020 07:22PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

His comment last few days have made it quite clear that he's only looking for a reaction.

Wouldn't even bother.

I'm not looking for a reaction but I'm utterly sick of the laid back indifference people on here have towards covid. Did we not learn anything from March and April or the horror show in Lombardy?

iguana · 27-09-2020 07:22PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

Why would Cork get such preferential treatment? Sure the same could be said for parts of Offaly and Dublin etc.

This is a county based approach and there will be no special treatment just because it is Cork.

Dublin isn’t like the other cities. Dublin is a small county with a huge population. The vast majority of the county is a suburb of the city. This isn’t true of the other cities and their relationship with their counties. Cork city’s metropolitan area is only a tiny part of the county. They aren’t comparable.

BringBackMick · 27-09-2020 07:22PM

15 to 24 age bracket really beginning to take off

Deeper Blue · 27-09-2020 07:23PM

rooney30 wrote: »

It’s comments like this that have made this thread almost unreadable

Agreed, I find the "Not good"/"Terrible numbers"/"Very worrying" type posts every ****ing time the numbers come out to be just as bad though.

CiarraiManc · 27-09-2020 07:25PM

flanna01 wrote: »

Death rates nowhere near the same as the first wave...

The aged and medically impaired are more aware of personal protective measures now.

Much of ado about nothing me thinks..

Too many doom and gloom merchants forecasting (hoping for) end of days scenario's... Sorry kiddo's .. This isn't it.

Irreversible global warming is the one to get yer britches up in a bunch about.. Not this!

Give it a few more weeks before deaths start to catch up and the disease spreads to the vulnerable. Then we'll see scenes similar to wave 1

screamer · 27-09-2020 07:26PM

road_high wrote: »

Nah, won’t work. You people are obsessed with controlling people for whatever reason- gone beyond fanaticism really.
All you can control is your own behaviors and there’s ample opportunities to control ones own and protect yourself if you’re that worried

You’re totally right as usual. Sure laws don’t work, sure why bother trying to control peoples behaviour at all, sure we should all get a shotgun to protect ourselves against burglars by your logic.

JP Liz V1 · 27-09-2020 07:27PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Michael Martin has decided to implement a City only lockdown in Cork.

He has employed a man with a great deal of experience and expertise in this area.

Tom Hardy can lock me down anytime anywhere

CiarraiManc · 27-09-2020 07:28PM

screamer wrote: »

You’re totally right as usual. Sure laws don’t work, sure why bother trying to control peoples behaviour at all, sure we should all get a shotgun to protect ourselves against burglars by your logic.

Don't bother the covidiots don't want to be helped they want to pretend absolutely nothing at all is wrong

billybonkers · 27-09-2020 07:29PM

Cork lads has no bother with a Dublin lockdown. Why should they get special treatment?

Micky 32 · 27-09-2020 07:30PM

screamer wrote: »

sure we should all get a shotgun to protect ourselves against burglars by your logic.

I own a legally held firearm, no worries here i’m quite safe.

screamer · 27-09-2020 07:30PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

Don't bother the covidiots don't want to be helped they want to pretend absolutely nothing at all is wrong

But if they catch it and a bad dose of it, they’d be the first fvckers at the top of the queue looking for help from the health services and rabble rousing if they didn’t get it.

Zebra3 · 27-09-2020 07:31PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

By area of land but this virus isn't infecting land km2.. it's infecting people

Correct.

But lockdowns if they are gonna happen need to be as local as possible.

As much as the economy needs to be kept open as possible, and if you start shutting down towns that have no issues, don't be surprised if people start pushing back.

We had the whole of Kildare locked down because of problems in a tiny isolated area of the county.

But it'd be typical of this NPHET/government shambles to just keep repeating mistakes.

CiarraiManc · 27-09-2020 07:33PM

screamer wrote: »

But if they catch it and a bad dose of it, they’d be the first fvckers at the top of the queue looking for help from the health services and rabble rousing if they didn’t get it.

Exactly. There's a cohort of posters here who are trying to shut down any dissenting opinion as a wind up merchant or troll. They clearly just want to turn the thread into some open the pubs/Qanon hugbox

Funsterdelux · 27-09-2020 07:33PM

billybonkers wrote: »

Cork lads has no bother with a Dublin lockdown. Why should they get special treatment?

Thats because Dublin isnt Cork

Scuid Mhór · 27-09-2020 07:35PM

flanna01 wrote: »

Death rates nowhere near the same as the first wave...

The aged and medically impaired are more aware of personal protective measures now.

Much of ado about nothing me thinks..

Too many doom and gloom merchants forecasting (hoping for) end of days scenario's... Sorry kiddo's .. This isn't it.

Irreversible global warming is the one to get yer britches up in a bunch about.. Not this!

CiarraiManc wrote: »

Exactly there should be an immediate nationwide lockdown from now until February. The numbers are too high and if people won't behave themselves then they'll be taught to. Sick of it now.

Getting tired of seeing sentiments like this on both extreme sides of the spectrum. We can't risk going into a full lockdown too early because our economy simply can't handle it, nor can people's mental health. At the same time, to think that everything is grand because we are slightly more prepared and ready for virus in the winter than we were back in March when it first arrived is ridiculous. The ICU thresholds are still there, lower now. Our hospitals are still at risk at being overrun, especially in flu season when hospitals are usually in dire states anyway. People need to stop slipping towards this binary lockdown/sure look it'll all be grand mindset and strike a delicate balance in the middle -- there probably isn't as much cause for alarm today yet because it's still less than two weeks since we saw Dublin go into level 3. But none of us should be keeping our guard down.

As well as that, and I'm tired of having to repeat this -- even if it seems the fatality rates are lowering, anyone who is well versed in medicine would tell you that the most worrying aspect of covid-19 is what we still don't know about it because longitudinal data still isn't available. Who's to say what the long term effects of this virus will be in five years or ten? Indeed, preliminary findings of long-term effects include but are not limited to insomnia, headaches, chronic fatigue, serious cardiac and lung damage, short-term memory issues. We should be erring on the side of caution because there is still so much we don't know. If you disagree with this, you clearly do not have a medical background.

In the immortal words of Thomas Pynchon, we need to "keep cool but care". No need to fret just yet but if we become too complacent we can saunter into conditions far more ruinous and traumatic than those we endured in April/May.

growleaves · 27-09-2020 07:37PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

Don't bother the covidiots don't want to be helped they want to pretend absolutely nothing at all is wrong

The problem is that people have become too indivualistic.

The solution I propose is that we need to replace individuals with coviduals.

Coviduals do what they're told.

When you tell a covidual they'll be restricted to 2km for six months they will typically reply "What, only six months? From a public health point of view I think it should be eight months."

Micky 32 · 27-09-2020 07:37PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

Exactly. There's a cohort of posters here who are trying to shut down any dissenting opinion as a wind up merchant or troll. They clearly just want to turn the thread into some open the pubs/Qanon hugbox

And of course you’re the one who won’t take the vaccine that will help curb the spread and save lives , the hypocrisy.

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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