Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

GooglePlus · 27-09-2020 06:25PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Cork City is 200km+ from west Cork. Explain to me how countywide restrictions work?

It's not about countywide restrictions working, it's about regional restrictions within counties clearly not working. That's a fools move. Dividing a county will lead to serious discord. You being from Cork should know what a split up of a county like that would mean to the people in it. All or nothing.

Roots 2020 · 27-09-2020 06:27PM

100 years ago Cork City was suffering from a reign of terror by Black n Tans, her Lord Mayor was mid way through a 74 day hunger strike and in December the crown forces burnt down Cork City Centre (while simultaneously cutting fire hose pipes).

I think if Cork City is to go to level 3 it pales in comparison to what other generations endured.

After typing that it makes one think of how minor Covid is compared to what people in Europe and around the world lived through 1900-45. 2 World Wars and Spanish Influenza to start with.

normanoffside · 27-09-2020 06:28PM

Pablo Escobar wrote: »

It would be ridiculous to lock down the whole county of Cork. The data by electoral area shows that Cork City south west and Cork City north east are where the problems are. Even those don’t have high enough cases yet but it’s clearly spiked. But it might need a targeted approach in the city, but locking down west cork for example which is a 2 and a half hour drive in some places would make no sense.

They locked down the whole of Donegal (also a very big county) and there are only really high cases in Lifford/Stranrolar.
The rest of the county has well below the national average of cases per 100k population

fits · 27-09-2020 06:28PM

goingnowhere wrote: »

If I get hit by a bus tomorrow, survive to get to A&E and test positive then die

It wasn't the bus that killed me....

Seriously stop this cr4p

https://twitter.com/hivtox/status/1310164629310631936?s=21

landofthetree · 27-09-2020 06:28PM

We aren't even in October yet and its rising rapidly.

Cant see how the whole country wont be at level 4-5 from Nov till April.

What Username Guidelines · 27-09-2020 06:29PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

It's not about countywide restrictions working, it's about regional restrictions within counties clearly not working. That's a fools move. Dividing a county will lead to serious discord. You being from Cork should know what a split up of a county like that would mean to the people in it. All or nothing.

My LEA, in Dublin 24, has less than the national average and we’re at level 3.5 like the rest of the county.

The argument for splitting up areas can continue down to the house level and then it’ll be sure just lock down the houses that have covid. If we knew that we wouldn’t still have covid. Hence the county level restrictions.

Counties may have arbitrary borders, but they’re what we have to use in this scenario. Makes sense to me to go full counties.

normanoffside · 27-09-2020 06:29PM

https://twitter.com/GregHughes2/status/1309183223667318788

GooglePlus · 27-09-2020 06:30PM

Roots 2020 wrote: »

100 years ago Cork City was suffering from a reign of terror by Black n Tans, her Lord Mayor was mid way through a 74 day hunger strike and in December the crown forces burnt down Cork City Centre (while simultaneously cutting fire hose pipes).

I think if Cork City is to go to level 3 it pales in comparison to what other generations endured.

After typing that it makes one think of how minor Covid is compared to what people in Europe and around the world lived through 1900-45. 2 World Wars and Spanish Influenza to start with.

We have the illusion of choice now though, which has led to all this. People love to reap the rewards of a globalised and connected society but when it comes time to pay back as a society, it's a big no. Everyone's back out for themselves.

DraftDodger · 27-09-2020 06:30PM

Wow just seen the numbers now :eek: Not looking forward to this winter at all.

BobbyMalone · 27-09-2020 06:31PM

Pablo Escobar wrote: »

It would be ridiculous to lock down the whole county of Cork. The data by electoral area shows that Cork City south west and Cork City north east are where the problems are. Even those don’t have high enough cases yet but it’s clearly spiked. But it might need a targeted approach in the city, but locking down west cork for example which is a 2 and a half hour drive in some places would make no sense.

Is it not the same for Dublin? Bar the south- and north-west (I think) most other areas are doing okay.

DraftDodger · 27-09-2020 06:33PM

landofthetree wrote: »

We aren't even in October yet and its rising rapidly.

Cant see how the whole country wont be at level 4-5 from Nov till April.

It is depressing alright. I had thought we'd make it until November at the least for cases to start rising rapidly but alas we are in a very bad spot now. For f**k sake :mad:

GooglePlus · 27-09-2020 06:34PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

My LEA, in Dublin 24, has less than the national average and we’re at level 3.5 like the rest of the county.

The argument for splitting up areas can continue down to the house level and then it’ll be sure just lock down the houses that have covid. If we knew that we wouldn’t still have covid. Hence the county level restrictions.

Counties may have arbitrary borders, but they’re what we have to use in this scenario. Makes sense to me to go full counties.

Exactly and we have to take the people within these boundaries into account too. County pride is a thing. Tribalism is alive and well so dividing counties up will really affect the people in them. It will lead to revolt within counties. Don't mess with GAA driven pride.

ACitizenErased · 27-09-2020 06:34PM

BobbyMalone wrote: »

Is it not the same for Dublin? Bar the south- and north-west (I think) most other areas are doing okay.

Cork is 8 times larger than Dublin.

normanoffside · 27-09-2020 06:36PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Cork is 8 times larger than Dublin.

It's only 1.5 times bigger than Donegal though

GooglePlus · 27-09-2020 06:36PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Cork is 8 times larger than Dublin.

By area of land but this virus isn't infecting land km2.. it's infecting people

Beechwoodspark · 27-09-2020 06:37PM

Just on the topic of whether social media influencers should be involved in spreading public health messages -

I must say it’s quite disgusting how some of these social media influencers are seeing the pandemic as a way to get a “pay day” from govt

Screw that. They should be spreading good public health messages regardless.

CiarraiManc · 27-09-2020 06:38PM

landofthetree wrote: »

We aren't even in October yet and its rising rapidly.

Cant see how the whole country wont be at level 4-5 from Nov till April.

Exactly there should be an immediate nationwide lockdown from now until February. The numbers are too high and if people won't behave themselves then they'll be taught to. Sick of it now.

mloc123 · 27-09-2020 06:38PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

By area of land but this virus isn't infecting land km2.. it's infecting people

But.. but.. cork is a special case. Haven't you been reading these threads?

Thierry12 · 27-09-2020 06:40PM

mloc123 wrote: »

I read before that Cork had 100% mask and social distancing compliance.. unlike Dublin. I don't understand how the cases numbers are rising so sharply.

A 3 week indoor hospitality lockdown will get them back on track ;-)

Watching Contagion now thinking

What a crap film that would've been if they used real science in that, like close indoor dining only.

All they had to do was close indoor dining for 3 weeks and the virus would have retreated and normal life resumes

27-09-2020 06:40PM

landofthetree wrote: »

We aren't even in October yet and its rising rapidly.

Cant see how the whole country wont be at level 4-5 from Nov till April.

Even with today’s numbers the rate of growth has slowed significantly.

Jim_Hodge · 27-09-2020 06:41PM

Deleted User wrote: »

But that’s just the point. It doesn’t need to be county based. Of course, the virus does not respect county boundaries. If specific areas are the problem, that is where restrictions need to be applied.

I totally agree it doesn't need to be, but that is what it is. The point is Cork will not be treated differently.

prunudo · 27-09-2020 06:42PM

mloc123 wrote: »

But.. but.. cork is a special case. Haven't you been reading these threads?

Cork has always wanted special treatment, its not exclusive to covid rules.

rob316 · 27-09-2020 06:43PM

It's only about 100 cases more than last week. Stable enough that is.

Santy2015 · 27-09-2020 06:45PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

By area of land but this virus isn't infecting land km2.. it's infecting people

But it’s not infecting people in areas a few hundred km away in north west cork or west cork

Itssoeasy · 27-09-2020 06:46PM

prunudo wrote: »

Cork has always wanted special treatment, its not exclusive to covid rules.

What a stupid thing to say. Special treatment how exactly ?

owlbethere · 27-09-2020 06:48PM

GeorgeBailey wrote: »

Michael Martin said during the week that they would look at the possibility of only locking down cities with regard to Cork, Galway and Limerick.

That's not going to work. I know that could be to help as many businesses as possible but from a public health point of view its not going to work. It would be likely people will travel from the cities into local rural towns and villages to eat out and drink out and maybe bring virus with them. It's not going to work.

Jim_Hodge · 27-09-2020 06:49PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Cork is 8 times larger than Dublin.

So, when do we draw the line on County restrictions? Cork, Galway and Mayo by urban area and Donegal by county? A bit arbitrary.

GooglePlus · 27-09-2020 06:49PM

Santy2015 wrote: »

But it’s not infecting people in areas a few hundred km away in north west cork or west cork

True. So how do you suggest we go about implementing a regional lockdown within the county itself?

There's a lot to think about here, you can't go dividing a county by applying restrictions within them as it'll lead to one big mess.

DeanAustin · 27-09-2020 06:52PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

Exactly there should be an immediate nationwide lockdown from now until February. The numbers are too high and if people won't behave themselves then they'll be taught to. Sick of it now.

Bollox, it’ll ruin the country and some people won’t adhere anyway. We need to get real and learn to live with and manage this virus.

prunudo · 27-09-2020 06:53PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

What a stupid thing to say. Special treatment how exactly ?

Ah probably needs its own thread in ah. The notions of Corkonians being above themselves, the real capital nonsense, there's always an air of wanting to be treated differently to the rest of the country. Won't derail this one anymore.

Are you from Cork yourself by any chance?

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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