Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

iguana · 27-09-2020 04:48PM

DraftDodger wrote: »

There is absolutely no guarantee a vaccine will be safely available within the next year so that may go on for years to come.

No guarantee, but at this point it's looking increasingly likely that we will have some very good news in the coming weeks. Followed by the beginnings of vaccine roll out during the winter. Because the best vaccine candidates have been being mass produced for months already.

Bear in mind that there are already 3 vaccines, Cansino, Sinopharm and Sputnik V being used for mass vaccination in their home countries. These have not gone through all the safety and efficacy checks that we require but they are in use and the recent Lancet paper on Sputnik V is actually very positive. Vaccinating against Covid 19 isn't the impossible task some people seem to think it is. What is taking so long right now is going through the proper testing procedures to ensure we get a safe vaccine with the best efficacy. Sometimes this will vary depending on population, Cansino's Ad5 vector meaning it's largely ineffective in over 55s for example.

The vaccine we get next year is unlikely to be the best vaccine and we may need to get another one in the coming years to ensure long-lasting, sterilising immunity. But the most likely outcome this winter and spring, is the beginning of a vaccination programme that will allow the majority of aspects of our old life to resume by mid-summer at the latest.

Ficheall · 27-09-2020 05:00PM

Looks like we've crossed the million deaths - insofar as the case numbers reported by every country in the world can be taken at face value...

27-09-2020 05:06PM

owlbethere wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/people-who-fail-to-self-isolate-should-be-fined-for-their-selfish-behaviour-says-gp-1.4365571

A GP is saying she's finding some people are not self isolating with they have a positive result or waiting on results to come back and she's suggesting to the government to implement fines. I would definitely agree with fines for people. If you were to read the link above, a company had to close because someone didn't self isolate. Why shouldnt there be any repercussions for people breaking isolation? There a huge level of greed, selfishness and arrogance about breaking isolation.

I would totally agree, but can you imagine trying to implement the fines. The courts would be clogged with people trying to defend themselves. On the other hand I'm surprised nobody has apparently attempted to sue somebody/organisation over catching Covid.

caveat emptor · 27-09-2020 05:06PM

Could be described as a doctor ‘freaking out” or trying to warn ⚠️.

https://twitter.com/albertoangelo17/status/1310154282302410753?s=21

zinfandel · 27-09-2020 05:11PM

33 million cases 1 million dead, so 1 in every 33 cases reported has died....

27-09-2020 05:18PM

zinfandel wrote: »

33 million cases 1 million dead, so 1 in every 33 cases reported has died....

In poor countries I'd say very few of their cases actually get reported, just the deaths, so the figures of world cases would be very underestimated.

Van.Bosch · 27-09-2020 05:21PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

In poor countries I'd say very few of their cases actually get reported, just the deaths, so the figures of world cases would be very underestimated.

Even in developed countries the cases are understated, sure in April you had to have two symptoms to be tested, we must have missed thousands of cases

spookwoman · 27-09-2020 05:23PM

HSE Operations report finally out

110 Hospitalised +8

18 in Critical Care +1
0 Deaths
8 Ventilated -

Oranage2 · 27-09-2020 05:26PM

zinfandel wrote: »

33 million cases 1 million dead, so 1 in every 33 cases reported has died....

Wow extremely scary, 1 in 33 tested will die from it around the world and 1 in 19 in Ireland will die. Absolutely frightening statistics

Jim_Hodge · 27-09-2020 05:29PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Wow extremely scary, 1 in 33 tested will die from it around the world and 1 in 19 in Ireland will die. Absolutely frightening statistics

Tested? I think not. Relax.

BLIZZARD7 · 27-09-2020 05:29PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Wow extremely scary, 1 in 33 tested will die from it around the world and 1 in 19 in Ireland will die. Absolutely frightening statistics

1 in 19? Why? Why would we be below the world average for survival?

Stheno · 27-09-2020 05:30PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Wow extremely scary, 1 in 33 tested will die from it around the world and 1 in 19 in Ireland will die. Absolutely frightening statistics

Wrong. 1 in 33 who test positive

Jimi H · 27-09-2020 05:30PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I would totally agree, but can you imagine trying to implement the fines. The courts would be clogged with people trying to defend themselves. On the other hand I'm surprised nobody has apparently attempted to sue somebody/organisation over catching Covid.

Exactly, we are very poor at collecting fines in Ireland.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/non-payment-of-court-fines-up-threefold-since-curbs-on-jailing-1.4205312%3fmode=amp

goingnowhere · 27-09-2020 05:30PM

If I get hit by a bus tomorrow, survive to get to A&E and test positive then die

It wasn't the bus that killed me....

wadacrack · 27-09-2020 05:31PM

The case fatality rate still high at over 5% at the minute, will hopefully lower but their has been mass testing now in this wave and deaths have still followed

Goldrickssan · 27-09-2020 05:36PM

goingnowhere wrote: »

If I get hit by a bus tomorrow, survive to get to A&E and test positive then die

It wasn't the bus that killed me....

No it was you not following the safe cross code that killed you

goingnowhere · 27-09-2020 05:37PM

Goldrickssan wrote: »

No it was you not following the safe cross code that killed you

Per HSE I would be counted as a COVID death, we need to get serious here and get a proper medical review as determine if COVID was the cause of death or a second issue.

Non solum non ambulabit · 27-09-2020 05:37PM

zinfandel wrote: »

33 million cases 1 million dead, so 1 in every 33 cases reported has died....

Over 300m people have been infected with 1m deaths. So 0.3% Infection Fatality Rate or 1 in 300.

igCorcaigh · 27-09-2020 05:41PM

goingnowhere wrote: »

If I get hit by a bus tomorrow, survive to get to A&E and test positive then die

It wasn't the bus that killed me....

What are the chances of you currently having covid? That's the overestimate that you are implying. Negligible.

boardise · 27-09-2020 05:43PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Apparently a fair few of them (Our returned Irish) were denied employment here and it was said by Reid on at least two radio programs that many were unsuitable for employment, or not up to standard. I don't know what this inferred, did it mean they were fruitfully employed in Australia etc as nurses, doctors etc, but that upon looking at their qualifications & experience it was viewed that standards required overseas are less than ours, or was it seen that some of these people had fake or dodgy qualifications which they had acquired overseas? Or had some of this cohort lost their jobs overseas because of their work performance and saw a return to Ireland as a possible resurrection as we were desperate for them? Some of this was implied by Reid during the radio interviews.

Maybe I'm being naive here but could they not be given some targeted training to bring them to the required standard if it is indeed the case that they were found lacking in some respects?

Goldrickssan · 27-09-2020 05:44PM

goingnowhere wrote: »

Per HSE I would be counted as a COVID death, we need to get serious here and get a proper medical review as determine if COVID was the cause of death or a second issue.

Wrong. HSE use WHO guidance for counting deaths.

"A death due to COVID-19 is defined for surveillance purposes as a death resulting from a clinically compatible illness, in a probable or confirmed COVID-19 case, unless there is a clear alternative cause of death that cannot be related to COVID disease (e.g. trauma)."

What Username Guidelines · 27-09-2020 05:45PM

430 cases, no deaths.

iguana · 27-09-2020 05:45PM

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Even in developed countries the cases are understated, sure in April you had to have two symptoms to be tested, we must have missed thousands of cases

Two symptoms would not get you tested. You had to have at least 2 recognised (at the time) symptoms and have either a specific underlying condition, be a close contact of a confirmed case or be a relevant health care worker. Tbf, we didn't even have the capacity to test even those people but we missed the vast majority of cases.

Van.Bosch · 27-09-2020 05:46PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

430 cases, no deaths.

Not good

prunudo · 27-09-2020 05:46PM

And there's the start of the backlog, 430 today

GooglePlus · 27-09-2020 05:47PM

goingnowhere wrote: »

Per HSE I would be counted as a COVID death, we need to get serious here and get a proper medical review as determine if COVID was the cause of death or a second issue.

How many people are getting hit by buses and being counted as Covid deaths?

To tone it down a bit, your point is trying to hit at those who may be ill already but Covid led to their death? Or what is it?

What's your point, exaggerations aside.

What Username Guidelines · 27-09-2020 05:47PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

430 cases, no deaths.

212 cases are in Dublin, 54 in Cork, 23 in Donegal, 23 in Galway, 16 in Louth, 15 in Monaghan, 12 in Clare, 12 in Meath, 9 in Cavan, 8 in Roscommon, 7 in Wicklow, 6 in Limerick, 5 in Kildare, 5 in Tipperary with the remaining 23 cases in 9 counties.

Oranage2 · 27-09-2020 05:47PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

430 cases, no deaths.

Backlog cleared?

Could be seeing big numbers all week too

stephenjmcd · 27-09-2020 05:49PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

430 cases, no deaths.

We won't know until testing data released to tomorrow but suspect there's a large backlog in there

boardise · 27-09-2020 05:49PM

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

1 in 19? Why? Why would we be below the world average for survival?

Aha , was wondering why it was called Covid 19 !:eek:

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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