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Nobotty · 26-09-2020 01:40PM

What in the name of God would Eoghan Harris know about the north

smurgen · 26-09-2020 02:08PM

Nobotty wrote: »

What in the name of God would Eoghan Harris know about the north

Or half the headbangers in this thread. Lunatics referring to grieving families as crackpots.

JohnnyFlash · 26-09-2020 03:38PM

McMurphy wrote: »

The point is why anyone was murdered by anyone else, that's the point.

It's all very well to sit on a high horse pontificating about murderers this and murderers that, when you have only ever known life in a state where the police force and government didn't collude with paramilitaries to murder one section of the community for no other reason than their religion.

The PIRA killed more catholics and nationalists than any other group. Bunch of scumbags they were. Serial killers, rapists, wife beaters, bank robbers, and nonces.

McMurphy · 26-09-2020 04:04PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

The PIRA killed more catholics and nationalists than any other group. Bunch of scumbags they were. Serial killers, rapists, wife beaters, bank robbers, and nonces.

I doubt anyone other than FG spin master's, partitionist's and belligerent unionists were keeping score cards John on who killed who, or what flavor of religion they were but the IRA were an unfortunate necessity at the time, as a response to gerrymandering, discrimination and murders being carried out by the British Government, the Security forces and loyalist paramilitaries.

The GFA has thankfully been in place now for over twenty years, and Sinn Fein have increased its vote share here year on year since that, and it appears to be a trend that is continuing.

The younger generation don't give a shiny shyte for this continuous "but the IRA" nonsense yourself and the rest of the blueshirt brigade keep rattling on about, time to try a different tactic I suspect.

Truthvader · 26-09-2020 04:18PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I know somewhere the exact same thing happened a few decades before...mad hi!

No you don't that is not true. The indiscriminate campaign of relentless murder and thuggery carried out by Sinn Fein IRA is unique.

But cheer up. As many Shinnerbots here point out there is a younger generation who either dont know or dont care so Sinn Fein may yet take power in the South. My prediction given the low calibre of their membership is for a diastrous sh1tsandwich of incompetence and criminality when they do that will make Trump look like Jesus. As is already evidenced here there is a hard core of support for them even amongst those who know exactly who and what they are. So lets see how it works out for you if poor Mary Lou, Pearse, Dessie and the rest of them get in.

smurgen · 26-09-2020 04:26PM

Truthvader wrote: »

No you don't that is not true. The indiscriminate campaign of relentless murder and thuggery carried out by Sinn Fein IRA is unique.

But cheer up. As many Shinnerbots here point out there is a younger generation who either dont know or dont care so Sinn Fein may yet take power in the South. My prediction given the low calibre of their membership is for a diastrous sh1tsandwich of incompetence and criminality when they do that will make Trump look like Jesus. As is already evidenced here there is a hard core of support for them even amongst those who know exactly who and what they are. So lets see how it works out for you if poor Mary Lou, Pearse, Dessie and the rest of them get in.

The parallels with the Party from 1984 and FFG is breath taking sometimes. This reads like Two Minute Hate.

dundalkfc10 · 26-09-2020 04:45PM

Truthvader wrote: »

No you don't that is not true. The indiscriminate campaign of relentless murder and thuggery carried out by Sinn Fein IRA is unique.

But cheer up. As many Shinnerbots here point out there is a younger generation who either dont know or dont care so Sinn Fein may yet take power in the South. My prediction given the low calibre of their membership is for a diastrous sh1tsandwich of incompetence and criminality when they do that will make Trump look like Jesus. As is already evidenced here there is a hard core of support for them even amongst those who know exactly who and what they are. So lets see how it works out for you if poor Mary Lou, Pearse, Dessie and the rest of them get in.

I think you will find many young folk do know what went on in the 6 counties. They have great sympathy with Catholics who had to live there

James Brown · 26-09-2020 05:25PM

Truthvader wrote: »

No you don't that is not true. The indiscriminate campaign of relentless murder and thuggery carried out by Sinn Fein IRA is unique.

But cheer up. As many Shinnerbots here point out there is a younger generation who either dont know or dont care so Sinn Fein may yet take power in the South. My prediction given the low calibre of their membership is for a diastrous sh1tsandwich of incompetence and criminality when they do that will make Trump look like Jesus. As is already evidenced here there is a hard core of support for them even amongst those who know exactly who and what they are. So lets see how it works out for you if poor Mary Lou, Pearse, Dessie and the rest of them get in.

As FF and FG became more alike and then partnered they lost their traditional see-saw of the public going for one to punish the other. All they've had for the last few decades is being the more preferable of a bad lot. That's no longer the case. They need up their game or accept that they can't bank on replacing each other any more.
When most people decide who's best to vote for they aren't thinking of things that happened 20 or 30 years ago.

FrancieBrady · 26-09-2020 05:42PM

Truthvader wrote: »

No you don't that is not true. The indiscriminate campaign of relentless murder and thuggery carried out by Sinn Fein IRA is unique.

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Bull. If they'd had the means they'd have done the same.

The 'intents' were not unique. Has been seen in war/conflicts that escalate all over the world all through history.

Truthvader · 26-09-2020 07:33PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Bull. If they'd had the means they'd have done the same.

The 'intents' were not unique. Has been seen in war/conflicts that escalate all over the world all through history.

Bull right back at you. Wars and conflicts do not routinely or necessarily include a policy of random murder of random people and where it does the guilty should be in prison. By world standards of depravity, crippling children and mutilating non combatants in pub bombings and the likes of Enniskillen and Omagh is as low as it gets. Its just not OK and people who are responsible or who justify it are not fit to mix with decent people - never mind govern them

FrancieBrady · 26-09-2020 07:39PM

Truthvader wrote: »

Bull right back at you. Wars and conflicts do not routinely or necessarily include a policy of random murder of random people and where it does the guilty should be in prison. By world standards of depravity, crippling children and mutilating non combatants in pub bombings and the likes of Enniskillen and Omagh is as low as it gets. Its just not OK and people who are responsible or who justify it are not fit to mix with decent people - never mind govern them

Name these war/conflicts that didn't kill innocent people Truth? There may be some, but plenty were the exact same as what happened here.

This one had government agents plotting to bomb a primary school ffs. It was always going to escalate when you had an unstable partisan government on one side and a government who didn't care on this side.

Truthvader · 26-09-2020 07:49PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Name these war/conflicts that didn't kill innocent people Truth? There may be some, but plenty were the exact same as what happened here.

This one had government agents plotting to bomb a primary school ffs. It was always going to escalate when you had an unstable partisan government on one side and a government who didn't care on this side.

Disagree Anyway as per all previous posts your good with it (bar a bit of Gerry Adams hand wrining and "we're all victims" equivocation. So as above you may get your way and Mary Lou and the Sinn Fein mob will be let in. I have no doubt what will happen in that eventuality. You think that they will lead you to some kind of United Ireland promised land. Lets see

blanch152 · 26-09-2020 07:54PM

McMurphy wrote: »

The point is why anyone was murdered by anyone else, that's the point.

It's all very well to sit on a high horse pontificating about murderers this and murderers that, when you have only ever known life in a state where the police force and government didn't collude with paramilitaries to murder one section of the community for no other reason than their religion.

What is worse are those who didn’t experience it either and who pontificate from afar sitting on a higher horse that it explains and justifies the murder of little boys.

That is truly sickening pontification, the type of sickness that infests Cullinane, Mary-Lou and posters like yourself.

blanch152 · 26-09-2020 07:55PM

Truthvader wrote: »

Disagree Anyway as per all previous posts your good with it (bar a bit of Gerry Adams hand wrining and "we're all victims" equivocation. So as above you may get your way and Mary Lou and the Sinn Fein mob will be let in. I have no doubt what will happen in that eventuality. You think that they will lead you to some kind of United Ireland promised land. Lets see

Trump got in, Johnson got in, Sinn Fein are our Irish equivalent, so they have every chance.

FrancieBrady · 26-09-2020 07:59PM

Truthvader wrote: »

Disagree Anyway as per all previous posts your good with it (bar a bit of Gerry Adams hand wrining and "we're all victims" equivocation. So as above you may get your way and Mary Lou and the Sinn Fein mob will be let in. I have no doubt what will happen in that eventuality. You think that they will lead you to some kind of United Ireland promised land. Lets see

No, I am not, and never was 'good with it'.
It doesn't matter to me if the bomb is dropped from 20,000 ft or set off in a car...death is death and suffering is suffering. That is why I want to remove the cause of the war/conflict on this island.
You guys couldn't care less, you would exclude and discriminate just like unionists as long as your boogeymen don't get to partake fully in this democracy. YOU are the ones 'good with it'

McMurphy · 26-09-2020 08:06PM

blanch152 wrote: »

What is worse are those who didn’t experience it either and who pontificate from afar sitting on a higher horse that it explains and justifies the murder of little boys.

That is truly sickening pontification, the type of sickness that infests Cullinane, Mary-Lou and posters like yourself.

Well firstly, you do not have to experience at first hand to realise collusion to murder innocent civilians by a government, it's security forces, and paramilitaries to know it is inherently wrong, and it would inevitably end up with a backlash, and secondly you know absolutely nothing about me, where I'm from, and whether or not I have first hand experience in any of the above.

I suspect you seen the partitionist's/FG spin master's/Belligerent unionists reference and couldn't help yourself.

As sure as night follows day.

Yurt2 · 26-09-2020 08:06PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Trump got in, Johnson got in, Sinn Fein are our Irish equivalent, so they have every chance.

Au contraire, Fine Gael, as evidenced by the contributions of you and the B.O.Ts on this thread are the Trumpites in the equation. Powered by spite and divide and conquer tactics among societal groups.

There's nothing you won't post or say. Thin on facts and heavy on bluster. Always telling people how clever you are just like the Donald. Very stable geniuses. And not angry in the least dude.

blanch152 · 26-09-2020 08:08PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Well firstly, you do not have to experience at first hand to realise collusion to murder innocent civilians by a government, it's security forces, and paramilitaries to know it is inherently wrong, and it would inevitably end up with a backlash, and secondly you know absolutely nothing about me, where I'm from, and whether or not I have first hand experience in any of the above.

How do you know I don’t know, I have you well sussed.

Yurt2 · 26-09-2020 08:11PM

Blanch making out like he's Special Branch now.

I'm sure you have the nuclear codes and all Jason Bourne.

What a calamitously embarrassing poster.

FrancieBrady · 26-09-2020 08:12PM

blanch152 wrote: »

How do you know I don’t know, I have you well sussed.

A bit creepy and sinister that ^

Yurt2 · 26-09-2020 08:13PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

A bit creepy and sinister that ^

Sinister fringe. The B.O.Ts need a day off; they're losing it.

McMurphy · 26-09-2020 08:14PM

blanch152 wrote: »

How do you know I don’t know, I have you well sussed.

blanch152 · 26-09-2020 08:14PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

No, I am not, and never was 'good with it'.
It doesn't matter to me if the bomb is dropped from 20,000 ft or set off in a car...death is death and suffering is suffering. That is why I want to remove the cause of the war/conflict on this island.
You guys couldn't care less, you would exclude and discriminate just like unionists as long as your boogeymen don't get to partake fully in this democracy. YOU are the ones 'good with it'

There is no conflict without people willing to kill and bomb and torture and kneecap and hide child abusers.

Nothing to do with any abstract concepts. Over the centuries, people have used religion, witchcraft, socialism, communism, fascism, nationalism and many other reasons to excuse their own cowardly acts of murder and mayhem. Sinn Fein, the IRA and the posters who support what happened are equally nauseatingly disingenuous about the terrorist campaign in the North.

blanch152 · 26-09-2020 08:17PM

Yurt! wrote: »

Blanch making out like he's Special Branch now.

I'm sure you have the nuclear codes and all Jason Bourne.

What a calamitously embarrassing poster.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

A bit creepy and sinister that ^

Do you think I am stupid enough not to recognise a poster who follows me around and all his previous history? Nothing sinister on my part.

Truthvader · 26-09-2020 08:17PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

No, I am not, and never was 'good with it'.
It doesn't matter to me if the bomb is dropped from 20,000 ft or set off in a car...death is death and suffering is suffering. That is why I want to remove the cause of the war/conflict on this island.
You guys couldn't care less, you would exclude and discriminate just like unionists as long as your boogeymen don't get to partake fully in this democracy. YOU are the ones 'good with it'

Fine, so everything will be great forever once you get your United Ireland. Infantile. And Sinn Fein are being "excluded and discrimiated against". Infantile. They put up a collection of thugs, retards and flakes and still got 25% of the vote. Looks like they are being "included" to me. In a normal society many of their members would be in prison so any discrmination is positive. It even looks like they might take power in the future.

FrancieBrady · 26-09-2020 08:19PM

blanch152 wrote: »

There is no conflict without people willing to kill and bomb and torture and kneecap and hide child abusers.

Do you read back what you type?

I mean...how obvious is the above? No **** blanch?

Yurt2 · 26-09-2020 08:20PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Do you think I am stupid enough not to recognise a poster who follows me around and all his previous history? Nothing sinister on my part.

I nearly spat out my Tanora reading that. Seriously blanch, you're one to talk.

McMurphy · 26-09-2020 08:23PM

The incoherent ranting whilst the shinners are hammering on the door is most amusing.

Most. Amusing.

FrancieBrady · 26-09-2020 08:23PM

Truthvader wrote: »

Fine, so everything will be great forever once you get your United Ireland. Infantile. And Sinn Fein are being "excluded and discrimiated against". Infantile. They put up a collection of thugs, retards and flakes and still got 25% of the vote. Looks like they are being "included" to me. In a normal society many of their members would be in prison so any discrmination is positive. It even looks like they might take power in the future.

This isn't a 'normal' society, it is a post conflict/war society.
An NO I never said all would be rosy in a UI...ever.

And I said YOU guys would discriminate and exclude SF if you got your way. For one of you an allegation s enough to convict...that is discrimination.

Look to your vices/bias here. You are as bad as any unionist ever was.

FrancieBrady · 26-09-2020 08:26PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Do you think I am stupid enough not to recognise a poster who follows me around and all his previous history? Nothing sinister on my part.

Still doesn't explain how you answered his statement that 'you don't know where he lived etc'.

Very weird - 'follows you around'? More boogeymen under that bed?

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