General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

Augme · 26-09-2020 01:32PM

Going to be a very long season for united it seems.

Rock77 · 26-09-2020 01:33PM

DVDM93 wrote: »

SSSSSOOOOOLLLLLOOOOOMMMMMOOOOONNNNN BBBBBEEEEENNNNNJJJJKAAAAAMMMMMIIIIIINNNNM MMMMMAAAAAARRRRRCCCCCHHHHH!!!!!

Dude this is quite sad at this stage.... thought someone should let u know....

NITRO95 · 26-09-2020 01:33PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Ya its not really that hard to figure out:pac:

Same way a referee can send off players in the tunnel in spite of the "final whistle" being blown. The game wasnt over. He didn't restart anything. But let them have their fun claiming all sorts

The_Kew_Tour · 26-09-2020 01:34PM

NITRO95 wrote: »

Same way a referee can send off players in the tunnel in spite of the "final whistle" being blown. The game wasnt over. He didn't restart anything. But let them have their fun claiming all sorts

One of life great mysteries :pac:

dfx- · 26-09-2020 01:34PM

HalloweenJack wrote: »

This.

I can't understand how that can work. That is going to be one hell of a mess for them to get out of and rightly so, if what I'm reading is true.

It is farcical, but it was known that this would be a problem. What's the time limit for making a change after the full time whistle? An offside ruling a goal out five minutes later?

It should be a basic tenet of the game that all on pitch decisions are made before the full time whistle.

mightyreds · 26-09-2020 01:35PM

Rock77 wrote: »

Dude this is quite sad at this stage.... thought someone should let u know....

It's been happening here for years, it's always been sad but I can see why he does it

martyos121 · 26-09-2020 01:35PM

HalloweenJack wrote: »

This.

I can't understand how that can work. That is going to be one hell of a mess for them to get out of and rightly so, if what I'm reading is true.

Just read about something similar happening in Germany a couple of years ago with VAR awarding a penalty after the halftime whistle went. Obviously HT isn’t as final as the fulltime whistle but not much more was made of it, except for understandable complaints from the aggrieved team.

I guess it’s within the rules so by the looks of it. Still a controversial one though.

Turtyturd · 26-09-2020 01:35PM

HalloweenJack wrote: »

This.

I can't understand how that can work. That is going to be one hell of a mess for them to get out of and rightly so, if what I'm reading is true.

I doubt it. Villa are still in the premier league due to a poor refereeing decision and that was just glossed over. This will be the same.

Fitz* · 26-09-2020 01:36PM

I was just going to ask the same question, how long after the final whistle can the referee change his mind and restart the game?

If he watches the game on MOTD, can he restart the game again with one second remaining?

Utopia Parkway · 26-09-2020 01:36PM

Rather than the handball I think Brighton will be more wondering where the extra time came from seeing as they scored in the 95th minute and there were no real stoppages in added time.

26-09-2020 01:39PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Rather than the handball I think Brighton will be more wondering where the extra time came from seeing as they scored in the 95th minute and there were no real stoppages in added time.

Other than you know, the referenced goal?

jacool · 26-09-2020 01:40PM

Amazing game. Man Utd totally out-played and scrape a lucky win.
Brighton 18 shots against 7.
The shots on target was 5-3 so doesn't count Trossard hitting both posts and the crossbar, as well as the other two shots hitting the woodwork.
Brighton out-thought them and out-played them, but amazingly only led for about 90 seconds.
United were slower all over the pitch except for Rashford and Greenwood.
Could prove to be a massive 3 points because if Brighton play like that at home teams will suffer.

On the penalties, I thought the last one was a definite, Pogba on Connolly was not, but if the referee is going to give a free out for Maguire falling over and getting run over by Wan Bissaka, then its a penalty when he pushes over Connolly and tries to grab his jersey on the way down.

raze_them_all_ · 26-09-2020 01:40PM

Fitz* wrote: »

I was just going to ask the same question, how long after the final whistle can the referee change his mind and restart the game?

If he watches the game on MOTD, can he restart the game again with one second remaining?

Nah within 3 business days. You ask stupid questions

mightyreds · 26-09-2020 01:41PM

Seems the var issues are getting solved this year, some good quick calls and cant really complain about any of them.

Cookiemunster · 26-09-2020 01:41PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Rather than the handball I think Brighton will be more wondering where the extra time came from seeing as they scored in the 95th minute and there were no real stoppages in added time.

Extra time is always added after a goal is scored to account for the celebrations. And refs will nearly always allow a corner to be taken even when it's gone passed the indicated time. Remember its a minimum of x minutes.

Iago · 26-09-2020 01:41PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Rather than the handball I think Brighton will be more wondering where the extra time came from seeing as they scored in the 95th minute and there were no real stoppages in added time.

That’s easy, always the same with added time...

When it’s ‘your’ team (generic you, not you in particular) and they score after the allotted time it’s because ‘that’s the minimum to be added, not the maximum’

When it’s not ‘your’ team it’s exactly the allotted time and not a second more.

but don’t let that stop ye, you support the right team so you can stir as much as you like without fear of consequences:)

DVDM93 · 26-09-2020 01:42PM

Rock77 wrote: »

Dude this is quite sad at this stage.... thought someone should let u know....

It is, I agree with you Rock.

But I only picked it up at the tail end of last season, it's been happening in here for years as another poster has since pointed out.

Why is it only an issue for you now and wasn't before?

Utopia Parkway · 26-09-2020 01:42PM

Iago wrote: »

That’s easy, always the same with added time...

When it’s ‘your’ team (generic you, not you in particular) and they score after the allotted time it’s because ‘that’s the minimum to be added, not the maximum’

When it’s not ‘your’ team it’s exactly the allotted time and not a second more.

but don’t let that stop ye, you support the right team so you can stir as much as you like without fear of consequences:)

I have no idea what any of that word salad means.

HalloweenJack · 26-09-2020 01:43PM

Turtyturd wrote: »

I doubt it. Villa are still in the premier league due to a poor refereeing decision and that was just glossed over. This will be the same.

Its not the same. When the ref blows the final whistle, its supposed to be the end of the game.

If, as is being said, the ref blew the final whistle then went back and warded the penalty, its a slippery slope. When does the retrospective reffing stop?

Iago · 26-09-2020 01:44PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

I have no idea what any of that word salad means.

Hardly surprising, once you start reading at a post-primary level you’ll figure it out.

Cookiemunster · 26-09-2020 01:45PM

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Its not the same. When the ref blows the final whistle, its supposed to be the end of the game.

If, as is being said, the ref blew the final whistle then went back and warded the penalty, its a slippery slope. When does the retrospective reffing stop?

This has happen previously in other leagues. Just because it's the first time it's happened in England doesn't mean there's something up with it.

26-09-2020 01:46PM

Iago wrote: »

That’s easy, always the same with added time...

When it’s ‘your’ team (generic you, not you in particular) and they score after the allotted time it’s because ‘that’s the minimum to be added, not the maximum’

When it’s not ‘your’ team it’s exactly the allotted time and not a second more.

but don’t let that stop ye, you support the right team so you can stir as much as you like without fear of consequences:)

They don't want the correct decision to be made now.

Rock77 · 26-09-2020 01:48PM

DVDM93 wrote: »

It is, I agree with you Rock.

But I only picked it up at the tail end of last season, it's been happening in here for years as another poster has since pointed out.

Why is it only an issue for you now and wasn't before?

I’ve only seen you posting it, this season. And only when a goal is scored against Utd..

If you know it’s sad, why do you keep doing it?

Nunu · 26-09-2020 01:50PM

DVDM93 wrote: »

not ideal, but it keeps OGS in the job for longer, could be better, could be worse I suppose.

I'm disappointed United won but would be even more disappointed if OGS's job was at risk.

Little victories eh? What a plonker.

HalloweenJack · 26-09-2020 01:50PM

Cookiemunster wrote: »

This has happen previously in other leagues. Just because it's the first time it's happened in England doesn't mean there's something up with it.

First time I've heard of it happening. When did this other instances happen? What was the fallout?

NITRO95 · 26-09-2020 01:50PM

Rock77 wrote: »

I’ve only seen you posting it, this season. And only when a goal is scored against Utd..

If you know it’s sad, why do you keep doing it?

Something something Utd fans something something

McFly85 · 26-09-2020 01:51PM

Don’t really get the VAR controversy, it was the correct call. Brighton will be disappointed not getting at least a point.

United can be generously described as bang average. Would be very surprised if they manage top 4 this year, Chelsea and Arsenal are comfortably better.

This is it · 26-09-2020 01:53PM

Jaysus, United are in for a world of hurt this season going by those first two games. Incredibly poor.

DVDM93 · 26-09-2020 01:55PM

Rock77 wrote: »

I’ve only seen you posting it, this season. And only when a goal is scored against Utd..

If you know it’s sad, why do you keep doing it?

It's been happening in here for years yet you only notice it & have an issue with it when a goal is scored against United.

I'm laughing at the amount of attention it's getting in here today tbh, it's been happening for years & nobody batted an eye lid.

Johner · 26-09-2020 01:56PM

HalloweenJack wrote: »

First time I've heard of it happening. When did this other instances happen? What was the fallout?

I don’t remember one at full time myself but I remember in Germany the ref blew for half time and the teams had gone in and all. They all had to come back out for a penalty at the end of the first half that var gave after.

General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

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