Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

ElTel · 25-09-2020 05:19PM

JDD wrote: »

Yep.

Wouldn't you only be doing a second swab if the first came back negative? Why would they be doing a second swab if the first came back positive?

Double testing close contacts increases the numbers of tests alright. But shouldn't increase the numbers of positives.

This would be a good question to ask at the briefings.
We're guessing especially if comparing the cycle threshold number is not involved and I've no reason to think it is. Maybe for essential HCWs (who are asymptomatic) to reduce the time self isolating. Maybe two samples from one person are used for calibration check?

Why has our Tanaiste not gone for a test or has he?

Polar101 · 25-09-2020 05:19PM

Blondini wrote: »

No deaths which is great.

Seems to be a possible substantial backlog building up though, which could make for a very big number in a few days?

This is just a thought, I'd welcome any opinion - but could it be that there might not be a backlog? If more people end up in hospital, maybe those people get tested more than once, and we get more positive swabs than cases. When there was almost no-one in hospitals (with Covid), maybe there were less 'double tests'?

Denny61 · 25-09-2020 05:19PM

Can you now

GeorgeBailey · 25-09-2020 05:20PM

froog wrote: »

oh sorry i forgot you carried out the experiment yourself in your bedroom.

Apologies. That's not what I'm saying. There'll never be widespread agreement on anything, even in the face of cold hard facts.

funnydoggy · 25-09-2020 05:21PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

This'll probably be one of the last zero death days we'll have for a very long time. Expect the deaths to skyrocket. Wouldn't even bother with a lockdown it'll stop ****ing nothing

Wouldn't like you to be on NPHET

KrustyUCC · 25-09-2020 05:23PM

Benimar wrote: »

7 day cases to last friday - 1,726
7 day cases to this friday - 2,076 (20.3% increase)

Not good when put like that

How much extra testing have we done this week?

Plumbthedepths · 25-09-2020 05:23PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

This'll probably be one of the last zero death days we'll have for a very long time. Expect the deaths to skyrocket. Wouldn't even bother with a lockdown it'll stop ****ing nothing

I hope you won't be terribly disappointed when your prediction proves to be wrong.

blowitupref · 25-09-2020 05:23PM

Comparing Monday to Friday last week to this week.

94 more cases from 4,363 extra tests carried out.

CiarraiManc · 25-09-2020 05:23PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

Wouldn't like you to be on NPHET

What'd the point be? It's not like anyone listens to NPHET anyway. Selfish pigs is what people are they disgust me. All that's worrying them is getting to the pub so they can drink and eat and rut like wild mongrels. Scum.

hynesie08 · 25-09-2020 05:25PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

This'll probably be one of the last zero death days we'll have for a very long time. Expect the deaths to skyrocket. Wouldn't even bother with a lockdown it'll stop ****ing nothing

Can the last one alive turn off the immersion please????

funnydoggy · 25-09-2020 05:26PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

What'd the point be? It's not like anyone listens to NPHET anyway. Selfish pigs is what people are they disgust me. All that's worrying them is getting to the pub so they can drink and eat and rut like wild mongrels. Scum.

Are you okay?

CiarraiManc · 25-09-2020 05:28PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

Are you okay?

No because I'm tired of all the short term thinking here. 0 deaths = a good thing. How many of the 300+ people today will be left crippled for life? Struggling to breathe? Their lungs and organs shot to pieces.

petes · 25-09-2020 05:30PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

No because I'm tired of all the short term thinking here. 0 deaths = a good thing. How many of the 300+ people today will be left crippled for life? Struggling to breathe? Their lungs and organs shot to pieces.

Seriously, get out for a walk or something.

hynesie08 · 25-09-2020 05:30PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

No because I'm tired of all the short term thinking here. 0 deaths = a good thing. How many of the 300+ people today will be left crippled for life? Struggling to breathe? Their lungs and organs shot to pieces.

If I was to guess, somewhere between 0 and 300+

25-09-2020 05:30PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

No because I'm tired of all the short term thinking here. 0 deaths = a good thing. How many of the 300+ people today will be left crippled for life? Struggling to breathe? Their lungs and organs shot to pieces.

0?

CiarraiManc · 25-09-2020 05:30PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I hope you won't be terribly disappointed when your prediction proves to be wrong.

I'm disappointed with people enough as it is.

podgeandrodge · 25-09-2020 05:32PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

This'll probably be one of the last zero death days we'll have for a very long time. Expect the deaths to skyrocket. Wouldn't even bother with a lockdown it'll stop ****ing nothing

CiarraiManc wrote: »

No because I'm tired of all the short term thinking here. 0 deaths = a good thing. How many of the 300+ people today will be left crippled for life? Struggling to breathe? Their lungs and organs shot to pieces.

Probably not many.

Goldrickssan · 25-09-2020 05:34PM

Caitríona Perry's outfit is daycent

funnydoggy · 25-09-2020 05:34PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

No because I'm tired of all the short term thinking here. 0 deaths = a good thing. How many of the 300+ people today will be left crippled for life? Struggling to breathe? Their lungs and organs shot to pieces.

Those people with lasting effects we won't know of yet, but they'll have medical care to deal with it.

A death is a death. You can't come back from that.

Think of at least one positive. It'll help.

(Hint: how many deaths reported today?)

Wolf359f · 25-09-2020 05:36PM

Thierry12 wrote: »

Looking at stats there on

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/epidemiologyofcovid-19inireland/COVID-19_Daily_epidemiology_report_(NPHET)_10092020%20-%20WebsiteV2.pdf

June 8th

25,212 cases
3,321 hospitalised

Sept 8th

30,164
3,435

Over those 3 months

124 cases hospitalised out of the extra 4,952 cases

About a 2.5-3.0% case hospiltalisation rate at the moment, trending downwards cases vs hospiltalisation

Not a perfect calculation

For the 2000 cases we are getting each week now, 60 will require hospital treatment

What figure would cause a hospital collapse?

10,000 cases a week and 300 weekly hospital?

Some rough numbers based on 20% growth in new cases and based on 59 admissions last week and 33 discharges:
Next 7 days (Wk1): 71 admissions / 40 discharges - 131 total
(Wk2): 85 admissions / 48 discharges - 168 total
(Wk3): 102 admissions / 57 discharges - 213 total
(Wk4): 123 admissions / 68 discharges - 268 total
(Wk5): 147 admissions / 82 discharges - 333 total
(Wk6): 176 admissions / 98 discharges - 411 total

It's pure speculation, but can show if the figures stay as they are for 6 weeks, it can quickly build up.

Wolf359f · 25-09-2020 05:38PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Not quite

What would be the accurate figure?
I know the CMO stated that cases were on course for doubling every 2 weeks.

Renjit · 25-09-2020 05:39PM

300+ today.

Plumbthedepths · 25-09-2020 05:39PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

I'm disappointed with people enough as it is.

Why? not dying in high enough numbers for you?

joe40 · 25-09-2020 05:40PM

CiarraiManc wrote: »

No because I'm tired of all the short term thinking here. 0 deaths = a good thing. How many of the 300+ people today will be left crippled for life? Struggling to breathe? Their lungs and organs shot to pieces.

I'm not been flippant or complacent but there is a good chance the answer will be zero.

I do not in any way agree with the assholes who think this is nothing to worry about, it is definitely a major concern. However it is also possible to have too much despair.
As an individual there are a myriad of health risks we all face all the time. Coronavirus is another risk but still must be kept in context.

Renjit · 25-09-2020 05:41PM

Goldrickssan wrote: »

I can think of worse nightmares

joker kills the batman

JP Liz V1 · 25-09-2020 05:43PM

landofthetree wrote: »

In hospital: 102
In ICU: 16

That's a big rise in a month from 22, scary times

GooglePlus · 25-09-2020 05:43PM

Didn't take a genius to see that visors were useless. UCD (I think) measuring the effectiveness of face coverings and visors on RTÉ News there. Masks really helped reduce the droplet emission but visors just divert them upwards like the directional coverings on a air vent.

Harry Palmr · 25-09-2020 05:43PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

Those people with lasting effects we won't know of yet, but they'll have medical care to deal with it.

A death is a death. You can't come back from that.

Think of at least one positive. It'll help.

(Hint: how many deaths reported today?)

Well that's okay then! :rolleyes:

funnydoggy · 25-09-2020 05:47PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Well that's okay then! :rolleyes:

Did you read the rest of the post?

It's infinitely better than dying from the disease.

Those people who unfortunately have COVID would much rather not have it, but they do and I'm sure they'd choose some lasting effects over dying.

Also, a small percentage of those might have lasting effects - not all.

I'm not a COVID denier, I do what I can to prevent myself from getting or spreading it. If I do get it, I'll take treatable medical complications over dying from it anyday.

Boggles · 25-09-2020 05:50PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

Means cases shouldn't be doubling every 2 weeks, more like every 4 weeks. A little glimmer of light!

1000+ cases a day by Halloween at that rate of growth.

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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