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  • #52
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    paw patrol wrote: »
    they could do martial law. But easier to erode freedoms gradually less chance of resistance.
    Social distance effect the people mentally and psychologically. Wears people down and breaks the bonds in society...I see that has no plans to be eliminated.



    You can mock my thoughts and that's fine.
    But why haven't they an exit plan? No elimination of all the restrictions.


    Leo made some vague mention of a vaccine that may not come or may be a bag of sh1te.
    Why no targets to achieve in order to eliminate restrictions?

    And less chance of resistance when the country has a propaganda organisation that masquerades as a public broadcaster. It's no surprise that Ireland and the UK have the most extreme and severe restrictions in the whole of Europe when one considers that both have public broadcasters.


  • #53
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Not every government need have agreed to it, just the governments of the powerful countries.
    Which ones? And which aren't involved?
    Which doctors are involved and how were they convinced to play along?


  • #54
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    timetogo1 wrote: »
    Can you link to the amount of people dead from flu & pneumonia in the UK since June. I can't find it.

    Also how do the numbers match up from the start of the year to June?

    Sure: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/09/15/flu-pneumonia-have-contributed-deaths-covid-since-june-new-ons/ (behind a paywall)

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8617795/More-Britons-killed-flu-pneumonia-coronavirus-seven-weeks.html

    https://www.theweek.co.uk/107790/flu-killing-more-people-than-covid-19


  • #55
    The Nal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,012 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Not every government need have agreed to it, just the governments of the powerful countries.

    Which ones exactly? Have America agreed to this plot? And the UK? Boris nearly died from Covid. All part of his plan?
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    More people have died from the flu and pneumonia in the UK since June and the government is still obsessed with Covid. The goalposts are constantly being moved.

    So you can see how all 3 together would overwhelm a health system. Its misleading anyway.

    Flu isn’t the underlying cause of death for more people than Covid-19
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    A question people should ask themselves is: when has the government ever given a damn about my life and saving lives?

    They do all the time. Tax on cigs, speed limit reductions, sugar tax. Its in their interest not to have people dying in hospitals.


  • #56
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    Which ones? And which aren't involved?
    Which doctors are involved and how were they convinced to play along?

    I'm not saying that that's what's going on. I'm just saying that it's not beyond the realms of possibility for several countries to got together to agree to reset the way we live.

    Not necessary for doctors and nurses to be persuaded to play along. The virus exists and they are doing their job. I'm arguing about the possibility of a pandemic being used to change the world and the way we live. That's what the poster was talking about. The key thing is using a pandemic or an emergency situation to bring about changes.


  • #57
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    The Nal wrote: »
    Which ones exactly? Have America agreed to this plot? And the UK? Boris nearly died from Covid. All part of his plan?



    So you can see how all 3 together would overwhelm a health system. Its misleading anyway.

    Flu isn’t the underlying cause of death for more people than Covid-19



    They do all the time. Tax on cigs, speed limit reductions, sugar tax. Its in their interest not to have people dying in hospitals.

    I'm not saying that that's what's going on. I'm just presenting a counter to the 'all the governments of the world coming together to plan a pandemic' by suggesting that, while unlikely, powerful countries could have come together, or be working with powerful organisations such as the UN or WEF, to change the world. Not come together to plan a pandemic, but to agree to change the world and the way we live. The UN is behind Agenda 21/2030, and WEF is behind the Great Reset and involved with Covi Pass. Both have a reason to want the world to be changed.

    That's a good point about all three overwhelming the NHS. But I still think the government's doubling down on restrictions is excessive in the light of Covid-19 being all but gone from the UK.


  • #58
    Tea drinker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    paw patrol wrote: »
    they could do martial law. But easier to erode freedoms gradually less chance of resistance.
    Social distance effect the people mentally and psychologically. Wears people down and breaks the bonds in society...I see that has no plans to be eliminated.



    You can mock my thoughts and that's fine.
    But why haven't they an exit plan? No elimination of all the restrictions.


    Leo made some vague mention of a vaccine that may not come or may be a bag of sh1te.
    Why no targets to achieve in order to eliminate restrictions?
    The Russian vaccine showed positive results but as it comes packaged in red with Putins pawprints no one in the west wants it. (aka screw any health benefits / let people die of covid before we are injected with communism! :D ) Or it has arrived at an inconvenient time in the covid "crisis" and has to be ignored.

    The Nal wrote: »
    They do all the time. Tax on cigs, speed limit reductions, sugar tax. Its in their interest not to have people dying in hospitals.
    Still, they bailed out the banks and cut funding to HSE, resulting in poorer hospital outcomes.
    Similarly now there has been massively reduced health screening and many cancelled ops due to covid.
    We need to see where the Health service expense of covid lands, is it going to be covered by extra funding, or rob Peter to pal Paul in another area of the health service?
    What about the suicide cost of lockdowns?
    The economic impact of covid will likely show in decreased health service funding in coming years. Yes we can borrow, but it still needs to be paid back and if the economy is severely damaged this payback and the ability to borrow more become difficult.

    The health service make unemotional life and death decisions based purely on cash bang for buck every day, lets see what the bang for buck is with covid emotionally driven activities


  • #59
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I'm not saying that that's what's going on. I'm just saying that it's not beyond the realms of possibility for several countries to got together to agree to reset the way we live.
    No, it is beyond the realms of possibility.
    It's firmly in the realms of paranoid conspiracy theory.
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Not necessary for doctors and nurses to be persuaded to play along. The virus exists and they are doing their job.
    Ok. So since doctors aren't in on it, maybe all this stuff is because there's a big pandemic people are trying to deal with...


  • #60
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    No, it is beyond the realms of possibility.
    It's firmly in the realms of paranoid conspiracy theory.


    Ok. So since doctors aren't in on it, maybe all this stuff is because there's a big pandemic people are trying to deal with...

    I would agree with you were it not for the fact that the World Economic Forum is pushing The Great Reset.


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  • #61
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I would agree with you were it not for the fact that the World Economic Forum is pushing The Great Reset.
    Yes, but as we've seen in other threads, there's not much to worry about there. Just more conspiratorial thinking and paranoia and good ol' internet nonsense.

    Again, maybe stop believing everything you read?


  • #62
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    Yes, but as we've seen in other threads, there's not much to worry about there. Just more conspiratorial thinking and paranoia and good ol' internet nonsense.

    Again, maybe stop believing everything you read?

    According to several posters there's nothing to worry about, but I think most people would find the idea of resetting the planet to be a bit alarming.


  • #63
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    According to several posters there's nothing to worry about, but I think most people would find the idea of resetting the planet to be a bit alarming.

    But you can't explain why it's alarming.
    You dodge the questions when people ask you.

    So there's nothing to be alarmed about.

    Why be alarmed when you have to avoid explaining what makes you so frightened?

    Similarly, you've stated many things that aren't true or are at best not accurate.
    Why would you be alarmed when many of the things you are worried about just aren't true?

    Seems very strange and it's more like you're looking for a conspiracy to believe in rather than looking for what's true.


  • #64
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    But you can't explain why it's alarming.
    You dodge the questions when people ask you.

    So there's nothing to be alarmed about.

    Why be alarmed when you have to avoid explaining what makes you so frightened?

    Similarly, you've stated many things that aren't true or are at best not accurate.
    Why would you be alarmed when many of the things you are worried about just aren't true?

    Seems very strange and it's more like you're looking for a conspiracy to believe in rather than looking for what's true.

    The idea of resetting the planet over a virus that has a 99.9% survival rate is what I find to be alarming. The idea of resetting every aspect of human activity, as planned by WEF, I find alarming.


  • #65
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    The idea of resetting the planet over a virus that has a 99.9% survival rate is what I find to be alarming.
    But that's not true.
    Why are you saying something that is untrue to support your conspiracy theory?
    That kinda implies that your conspiracy theory isn't true.
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    The idea of resetting every aspect of human activity, as planned by WEF, I find alarming.
    Why?


  • #66
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    But that's not true.
    Why are you saying something that is untrue to support your conspiracy theory?
    That kinda implies that your conspiracy theory isn't true.


    Why?

    Because who are they to decide how we should live? I don't remember voting for WEF and the UN to reset the planet.

    The survival rate is in the high nineties.


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  • #67
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Because who are they to decide how we should live? I don't remember voting for WEF and the UN to reset the planet.
    But why are you worried about what they want to reset. Please be specific.
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    The survival rate is in the high nineties.
    You said:
    virus that has a 99.9% survival rate
    That's not true. I suspect that you knew this, yet claimed that anyway, making it a lie.

    You are now moving the goalposts to "High nineties."

    What is the death rate? Please provide a source for this number.


  • #68
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    But why are you worried about what they want to reset. Please be specific.


    You said:

    That's not true. I suspect that you knew this, yet claimed that anyway, making it a lie.

    You are now moving the goalposts to "High nineties."

    What is the death rate? Please provide a source for this number.

    I'm worried that they'll try to restrict travel, or make it a very unpleasant experience (health passports etc). I'm also worried that they'll push a digital currency, a social-credit system (health passport again) and that they'll attempt to create a global technocracy.

    Basically what this article outlines: https://mises.org/wire/lockdowns-great-reset

    "The basic idea of the Great Reset is the same principle that guided the radical transformations from the French to the Russian and Chinese Revolutions. It is the idea of constructivist rationalism incorporated in the state. But projects like the Great Reset leave unanswered the question of who rules the state. The state itself does not rule. It is an instrument of power. It is not the abstract state that decides, but the leaders of specific political parties and of certain social groups.

    Earlier totalitarian regimes needed mass executions and concentration camps to maintain their power. Now, with the help of new technologies, it is believed, dissenters can easily be identified and marginalized. The nonconformists will be silenced by disqualifying divergent opinions as morally despicable.

    The 2020 lockdowns possibly offer a preview of how this system works. The lockdown worked as if it had been orchestrated—and perhaps it was. As if following a single command, the leaders of big and small nations—and of different stages of economic development—implemented almost identical measures. Not only did many governments act in unison, they also applied these measures with little regard for the horrific consequences of a global lockdown.

    Months of economic stillstand have destroyed the economic basis of millions of families. Together with social distancing, the lockdown has produced a mass of people unable to care for themselves. First, governments destroyed the livelihood, then the politicians showed up as the savior. The demand for social assistance is no longer limited to specific groups, but has become a need of the masses.

    Once, war was the health of the state. Now it is fear of disease. What lies ahead is not the apparent coziness of a benevolent comprehensive welfare state with a guaranteed minimum income and healthcare and education for all. The lockdown and its consequences have brought a foretaste of what is to come: a permanent state of fear, strict behavioral control, massive loss of jobs, and growing dependence on the state."

    What do you think they're going to propose? A few benign recommendations?

    https://www.clickondetroit.com/health/good-health/2020/07/16/why-high-covid-19-survival-rate-is-no-reason-to-relax-safety-measures/

    "Using the current numbers, that means more than 30 million people could have been infected, which would make the infection fatality rate 0.4% -- meaning 99.6% of people survive the virus."


  • #69
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Because who are they to decide how we should live? I don't remember voting for WEF and the UN to reset the planet.

    The survival rate is in the high nineties.

    Indeed one can argue at length the precise percentage, 2% at worst, might be a good ballpark figure? One figure we do however know of is 1m total victims (most already elderly and health comprimised), globally, since this started nearly 1yr ago in Wuhan.

    Another comparitive figure is the 9m victims, annually due to cancer, nearly tenfold that of covid globally.

    These can often be younger and healthier victims to begin with. But due to covid measures, many, many treatments for (time sensitive) cancers (not to mention all other surgeries, of all descriptions, even basic dental work) have been delayed, on hold, or cancelled due to covid measures.

    There is no global reset due to cancers, diabetes or indeed obesity.
    Over 1/4 of Western nations are 'obese', this lifestyle factor doubles covid/influenza (and other) health risk fatalities.

    There is also little measures to address e.g. the US opioid (pharma) epademic which has been causing a direct 'decline in the life expectancy' there, (the world's richest nation), for many years now.

    If anything a 'great global reset' funded by Davos, WEF, Rockerfellers etc should take place to address the epidmeic of 'obesity'. Then again, 'opportunity out of a newsworthy crisis' springs to mind.


  • #70
    ranto_boy
    Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭ranto_boy


    The Nal wrote: »
    So they're all permanent but the pubs outside of Dublin are back open as are all schools.

    Right....

    Do you have less freedoms than 7 months ago? Yes, absolutely. Compared to now, do you think you'll have less or more freedoms in 7 months time? I'm going to say less.

    Edit: Should say in this country. Sweden sure is looking appealing.


  • #71
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    ranto_boy wrote: »
    Do you have less freedoms than 7 months ago? Yes, absolutely. Compared to now, do you think you'll have less or more freedoms in 7 months time? I'm going to say less.

    Edit: Should say in this country. Sweden sure is looking appealing.

    You're right. We will be considerably less free.


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  • #72
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9YDkKhRXWg&feature=youtu.be

    A video about the Great Reset.


  • #73
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I'm worried that they'll try to restrict travel, or make it a very unpleasant experience (health passports etc). I'm also worried that they'll push a digital currency, a social-credit system (health passport again) and that they'll attempt to create a global technocracy.
    But none of that has anythign to do with "the great reset" that's all in your imagination and you extrapolating things.
    Or more likely it's the websites and youtube videos you are watching that are imagining and extrapolating.

    It's very silly.
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    https://www.clickondetroit.com/health/good-health/2020/07/16/why-high-covid-19-survival-rate-is-no-reason-to-relax-safety-measures/

    "Using the current numbers, that means more than 30 million people could have been infected, which would make the infection fatality rate 0.4% -- meaning 99.6% of people survive the virus."
    Why are you posting a random local news site?

    Do you not have a better source than that?

    Please provide an actual source such as the CDC or equivalent organization.


  • #74
    ranto_boy
    Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭ranto_boy


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9YDkKhRXWg&feature=youtu.be

    A video about the Great Reset.

    Cool, I'll watch it later but interesting how his first statement about never letting a good crisis go to waste is now bieng openly said by some polticians :) I haven't heard about the great reset before. Decent video to start with on the topic?


  • #75
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    But none of that has anythign to do with "the great reset" that's all in your imagination and you extrapolating things.
    Or more likely it's the websites and youtube videos you are watching that are imagining and extrapolating.

    It's very silly.

    Why are you posting a random local news site?

    Do you not have a better source than that?

    Please provide an actual source such as the CDC or equivalent organization.

    I know it is, but I'm saying that that's what I'm worried about. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but that that's what I worry might happen.


  • #76
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    ranto_boy wrote: »
    Cool, I'll watch it later but interesting how his first statement about never letting a good crisis go to waste is now bieng openly said by some polticians :) I haven't heard about the great reset before. Decent video to start with on the topic?

    It's a good, but rather disturbing, video. It goes into detail about what the Great Reset is about.

    Another one I just came across: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXwPVD5UceY&feature=youtu.be

    It focuses on the use of 'new normal'.


  • #77
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I know it is, but I'm saying that that's what I'm worried about. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but that that's what I worry might happen.
    But you shouldn't worry about it because it's just paranoid conspiracy thinking with no baring on reality.

    You are worrying over fantasy stories.

    I also asked you for some source to back up you claims about the death rate from covid.
    Please provide that. Thanks.


  • #78
    ranto_boy
    Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭ranto_boy


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I know it is, but I'm saying that that's what I'm worried about. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but that that's what I worry might happen.

    You're right to. I'm sure at the begining of the year people in Oz would have laughed if you told them the police would break down your door and haul you off to prison for liking a Facebook post. The people in Ohio probably would have laughed at the idea of a policeman tackling and manhandling a teenage girl watching an outdoors match for not wearing a mask, and indeed that onlookers would be chill with it. The list goes on and on. I have no doubt in 7 month whatever nonsense laws are in effect will have the ever present defenders online.


  • #79
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    ranto_boy wrote: »
    You're right to. I'm sure at the begining of the year people in Oz would have laughed if you told them the police would break down your door and haul you off to prison for liking a Facebook post. The people in Ohio probably would have laughed at the idea of a policeman tackling and manhandling a teenage girl watching an outdoors match for not wearing a mask, and indeed that onlookers would be chill with it. The list goes on and on. I have no doubt in 7 month whatever nonsense laws are in effect will have the ever present defenders online.

    It's frightening. I read this morning that Dan Andrews is very popular with the people of Melbourne. 60 to 65% of the people support what he's doing. They support being allowed out for an hour a day, having to wear masks everywhere, and livelihoods and mental health being destroyed. It really is Stockholm Syndrome.

    But in Ireland I'd say the support for the government and the so-called experts is very high. It shows the power of propaganda (RTÉ, newspapers). Fauci will be on with the Late Late tomorrow night. He'll no doubt do his best to ramp up the fear.

    The more research I do, the more it is clear to me that this may be a global takeover of the world. The Great Reset is frightening.

    I have been suggesting people emigrate, if they can. I would suggest either Russia or Brazil.


  • #80
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    But you shouldn't worry about it because it's just paranoid conspiracy thinking with no baring on reality.

    You are worrying over fantasy stories.

    I also asked you for some source to back up you claims about the death rate from covid.
    Please provide that. Thanks.

    I don't know how you can dismiss it as paranoid conspiracy thinking. It's all there on WEF's own website. And the fact that they've postponed the reset until September of next year shows how much work they're putting into it.

    I can't find a source for the death rate, but do you accept that it's in the high nineties?


  • #81
    brianhere
    Registered Users Posts: 411 ✭✭brianhere


    As pointed out here in evidence to the Oireactas Committee ( https://www.independent.ie/videos/covid-needs-a-three-to-seven-year-plan-infectious-disease-specialist-39557046.html ), they are actually talking about a 3 to 7 year timetable in the measures they have taken against Covid. By starting with nonsense about 10 days or 2 weeks they are just stringing people along, all the changes they always intended to be permanent.

    http://www.orwellianireland.com



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  • #82
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I can't find a source for the death rate, but do you accept that it's in the high nineties?
    Why did you claim that the survival rate was 99.9%?

    Do you have any sources for "high nineties?"


  • #83
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Do people actually believe there is a conspiracy where the political elite of Ireland want to destroy our way of life for everyone, including their own families, neighbours and loved ones.


  • #84
    storker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭storker


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    OP, I can't believe you forgot to mention the deep state controlling our minds with 5G.

    That's just nonsense. 5G is for giving people COVID-19. Or possibly making them gay, I forget...


  • #85
    The Nal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,012 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Do people actually believe there is a conspiracy where the political elite of Ireland want to destroy our way of life for everyone, including their own families, neighbours and loved ones.

    Seems so. And not just Ireland. Globally.


  • #86
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    storker wrote: »
    That's just nonsense. 5G is for giving people COVID-19. Or possibly making them gay, I forget...
    The soy is making people and the frogs gay.


  • #87
    McGinniesta
    Registered Users Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭McGinniesta


    I'm beginning to wonder if there is a degree of exaggeration or mismanagement involved in all of this.

    I don't think we can say that covid doesn't exist but I wonder if there is something a little sinister at play.


  • #88
    storker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭storker


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I don't know how you can dismiss it as paranoid conspiracy thinking. It's all there on WEF's own website. And the fact that they've postponed the reset until September of next year shows how much work they're putting into it.

    This should be framed and put in some kind of museum of credulous conspiracy thinking. The Great Reset is definitely coming folks, it's all planned, the evidence is clear. Oh wait, it's been postponed by a year...but...er...that just shows how good the planning is.... :rolleyes:

    Tune in this time next year for the latest reason the Great Reset has been postponed (probably even better planning), but it's on the way for sure!


  • #89
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Do people actually believe there is a conspiracy where the political elite of Ireland want to destroy our way of life for everyone, including their own families, neighbours and loved ones.

    Considering that that's exactly what they're doing, I think it's reasonable for people to believe that there may be something sinister behind all of this.


  • #90
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    storker wrote: »
    This should be framed and put in some kind of museum of credulous conspiracy thinking. The Great Reset is definitely coming folks, it's all planned, the evidence is clear. Oh wait, it's been postponed by a year...but...er...that just shows how good the planning is.... :rolleyes:

    Tune in this time next year for the latest reason the Great Reset has been postponed (probably even better planning), but it's on the way for sure!

    The head of WEF wrote a book about it, and they're giving themselves more time to work on it by postponing it to next September.

    Two articles on the Great Reset:

    https://www.other-news.info/2020/08/from-lockdown-to-police-state-the-great-reset-rolls-out/

    https://mises.org/wire/lockdowns-great-reset

    It's all out there in the open for people to read about. No conspiracy.


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  • #91
    ranto_boy
    Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭ranto_boy


    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html
    IFR from the CDC

    0-19 years: 0.00003
    20-49 years: 0.0002
    50-69 years: 0.005
    70+ years: 0.054

    Wow, I'm shaking. Better destroy the economy, bring in the "New Normal", give the State all the power it wants and be sure to inform on your family, friends or neighbours if you see them violating the rules. The State is your real family :)


  • #92
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    brianhere wrote: »
    As pointed out here in evidence to the Oireactas Committee ( https://www.independent.ie/videos/covid-needs-a-three-to-seven-year-plan-infectious-disease-specialist-39557046.html ), they are actually talking about a 3 to 7 year timetable in the measures they have taken against Covid. By starting with nonsense about 10 days or 2 weeks they are just stringing people along, all the changes they always intended to be permanent.

    Two weeks to 7 years, but to question it is to be a conspiracy theorist.


  • #93
    ranto_boy
    Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭ranto_boy


    An interesting video with an Irish perspective

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh6VnB7JvW0


  • #94
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    ranto_boy wrote: »
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html



    Wow, I'm shaking. Better destroy the economy, bring in the "New Normal", give the State all the power it wants and be sure to inform on your family, friends or neighbours if you see them violating the rules. The State is your real family :)

    And don't forget health passports.


  • #95
    ranto_boy
    Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭ranto_boy


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    And don't forget health passports.

    Just scan your app to "track and trace" everywhere you go. Let the State know where you go, who you associate with, your patterns.. If you've nothing to hide... :)


  • #96
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    ranto_boy wrote: »
    Just scan your app to "track and trace" everywhere you go. Let the State know where you go, who you associate with, your patterns.. If you've nothing to hide... :)

    Yep. And WEF, with the support of the UN, will reset the planet for us, even though we never asked them to. They decide what happens.


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  • #97
    The Nal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,012 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    ranto_boy wrote: »
    An interesting video with an Irish perspective

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh6VnB7JvW0

    Oh good another 30 minute video dump with no context from a youtube account asking for money in the description.

    The neck on this ****

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  • #98
    ranto_boy
    Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭ranto_boy


    Pretty sure we'll see the app being used to "monitor" local lockdown measures in coming months. Scanned twice at Dunnes in one day, when rules say only one visit outside the house? Tsk, tsk, the Gardai will be dragging you off screaming. Fully expect glasses/goggles to become mandatory by Christmas.


  • #99
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    And is that when they start the one world government? Or is that the next pandemic?


  • #100
    ranto_boy
    Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭ranto_boy


    The Nal wrote: »
    Oh good another 30 minute video dump with no context from a youtube account asking for money in the description.

    At 2:19 for a minute or so is worth a watch. Shows how HSE own figures indicate just a 100 people have actually died from corona. Goes on from there.


  • #101
    ranto_boy
    Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭ranto_boy


    King Mob wrote: »
    And is that when they start the one world government? Or is that the next pandemic?

    Now you're thinking. Of course the measures brought in won't be going away because "a new corona might come about!".

    Mind you, if the next one has an IFR of about 10,000 times corona's then they might be legit.


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