FF/FG/Green Next Government

blanch152 · 24-09-2020 12:23PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Jesus Christ hahahahahaha haha

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/golf-group-insist-they-adhered-to-public-health-guidelines-during-tullamore-trip-1.4358657

The Golfers were from DUBLIN

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

The fact the golf party came from Dublin makes Northern Ireland look bad according to some

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus/craigavon-ambulance-staff-test-positive-for-covid-after-golf-trip-39557632.html

"The Belfast Telegraph can reveal that 10 staff members from the Southern Division base tested positive for the virus following a social event — believed to be a golf trip to the Republic — and a further six have had to self-isolate and are unavailable for work."

What were they doing going on a golf trip to the South? Does the government up there not have its eye on the ball?

dundalkfc10 · 24-09-2020 12:32PM

blanch152 wrote: »

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus/craigavon-ambulance-staff-test-positive-for-covid-after-golf-trip-39557632.html

"The Belfast Telegraph can reveal that 10 staff members from the Southern Division base tested positive for the virus following a social event — believed to be a golf trip to the Republic — and a further six have had to self-isolate and are unavailable for work."

What were they doing going on a golf trip to the South? Does the government up there not have its eye on the ball?

What were the Govt doing when the big piss up in Clifden was going on, oh wait the scumbags were at the event.

What were the Govt doing when the Rave took place in Dublin City Centre the weekend?

What are the the Govt doing about the house partys in student gaffs going on all over the 26 counties every night?

What did the Govt do about that event down country with 400 people were at indoors?

Do we need to go on.

The Golf Event in Tullamore, were Golfers from Dublin, what were the Government doing?

What were the Government doing when NPHET told them to close down Dublin a week before they did?

What were the Govt doing for 6 months, that they still havnt even recruited enough staff never mind have testing and tracing ready for the winter.

Please dont reply with but IRA, Sinn Fein, DUP, Mary Lou, Gerry Adams, Funerals as they have nothing to do with any of the Govts failures here (even though you blamed the DUP and Sinn Fein on the mess here yesterday)

Risteard81 · 24-09-2020 12:33PM

Nobotty wrote: »

if you lived 2kms from the border its within your zone in the early lockdown

I'm within 2km of the illegal "border".

McMurphy · 24-09-2020 12:40PM

Someone's changed their tune. Desperation dripping down your leg blanch.

blanch152 wrote: »

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus/craigavon-ambulance-staff-test-positive-for-covid-after-golf-trip-39557632.html

"The Belfast Telegraph can reveal that 10 staff members from the Southern Division base tested positive for the virus following a social event — believed to be a golf trip to the Republic — and a further six have had to self-isolate and are unavailable for work."

What were they doing going on a golf trip to the South? Does the government up there not have its eye on the ball?

Blame the govt up there.....

blanch152 wrote: »

No, that’s on the business.

Surprising to see posters like yourself letting businesses off with a pass.

The meat factories didn’t buy enough PPE. The Bridge House Hotel let a group of 40 golfers stay there. Golf clubs let them play, and pubs and restaurants opened their doors to them. All of those activities were against government guidelines and are on the businesses.

blanch152 wrote: »

The virus can only get out of control if ordinary people and ordinary businesses are reckless and careless and don't take personal responsibility for what they do.

The Government can't sit outside the Bridge House Hotel and count the number of people going in together. Neither can they be everywhere at everytime for every time a doorbell rings to check how many people are going into a house. You would need 300,000 gardai to monitor all that.

So it all comes down to personal responsibility. We know that there are around 25% of the population who have a Trump/Johnson/Brexit attitude to everything but the rest of us have to be responsible even when they won't.

Absolve the government of any responsibility here.

Parody.

James Brown · 24-09-2020 12:42PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Rubbish. Once again the mask slips.

The name of our state is Ireland. We no longer have a territorial claim on the rest of the island. It was removed as part of the GFA - we only want to reunite the people, not the territory.

Northern Ireland is a part of the UK.

Them's the facts, live with it.

Irish people laying claim to the occupied portion of the Irish province of Ulster on the island of Ireland is a secret?

James Brown · 24-09-2020 12:52PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Someone's changed their tune. Desperation dripping down your leg blanch.

Blame the govt up there.....

Absolve the government of any responsibility here.

Parody.

It's an odd one. Pre Covid due to health and safety nightclubs, pubs, bars with food etc. had a maximum capacity. The authorities might shut you down if you exceeded it.
If restaurant staff were picking their nose or not washing their hands they might be closed or sanctioned in some way by the authorities.
...but during a Covid pandemic we can't expect the FF/FG/Green led authorities to get involved? Its not so much 'we are all in this together' more 'yis are on your own'? Ridiculous blarney to take responsibility off the authorities.

FrancieBrady · 24-09-2020 12:52PM

blanch152 wrote: »

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus/craigavon-ambulance-staff-test-positive-for-covid-after-golf-trip-39557632.html

"The Belfast Telegraph can reveal that 10 staff members from the Southern Division base tested positive for the virus following a social event — believed to be a golf trip to the Republic — and a further six have had to self-isolate and are unavailable for work."

What were they doing going on a golf trip to the South? Does the government up there not have its eye on the ball?

Why oh why can't the Greens, Fg and FF get their eyes on the ball down here?
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/leading-killarney-hotel-denies-breach-of-covid-19-guidelines-1.4362836?p=p&fbclid=IwAR0uX1OgH4nxBgZL-CiUZCHyLQjPH19EsVAJXJ27RajV3QcIj-0XK14-DlE

Truthvader · 24-09-2020 12:55PM

Bowie wrote: »

Irish people laying claim to the occupied portion of the Irish province of Ulster on the island of Ireland is a secret?

Apparently it is a secret.

As Francie will tell you, being so intimately acquainted with the GFA and all its terns and conditions which he routinely wheels out when it suits the Irish People have abandoned that territorial claim. We even had a referendum and the "Irish People" specifically chose to abandon the claim.

blanch152 · 24-09-2020 12:59PM

Bowie wrote: »

Irish people laying claim to the occupied portion of the Irish province of Ulster on the island of Ireland is a secret?

The Irish people have no claim on Northern Ireland.

We abandoned the claim when we amended Articles 2 and 3.

James Brown · 24-09-2020 01:01PM

Truthvader wrote: »

Apparently it is a secret.

As Francie will tell you, being so intimately acquainted with the GFA and all its terns and conditions which he routinely wheels out when it suits the Irish People have abandoned that territorial claim. We even had a referendum and the "Irish People" specifically chose to abandon the claim.

Somebody laying claim or there being people who lay claim isn't a secret. There's no 'mask slips' about it.

McMurphy · 24-09-2020 01:05PM

Bowie wrote: »

Somebody laying claim or there being people who lay claim isn't a secret. There's no 'mask slips' about it.

Think he was referring to his covid mask.

Truthvader · 24-09-2020 01:12PM

Bowie wrote: »

Somebody laying claim or there being people who lay claim isn't a secret. There's no 'mask slips' about it.

No wrong again.

Outside of the mad mad world of Sinn Fein, democracies operate on the will/ vote of the people. Beneath that there are a complex web of laws, rules regulations etc. Stray Sinn Fein IRA members or dissidents or flat earthers are not entitled to "lay claim" to whatever they like from time to time or to appoint themselves to murder random people for 30 years

dundalkfc10 · 24-09-2020 01:19PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Someone's changed their tune. Desperation dripping down your leg blanch.

Blame the govt up there.....

Absolve the government of any responsibility here.

Parody.

Ah hes some character. He prob believes that he is saying too.

I dont think anything will top the DUP and SF are causing all the Covid problems all over the island.

dundalkfc10 · 24-09-2020 01:21PM

Truthvader wrote: »

No wrong again.

Outside of the mad mad world of Sinn Fein, democracies operate on the will/ vote of the people. Beneath that there are a complex web of laws, rules regulations etc. Stray Sinn Fein IRA members or dissidents or flat earthers are not entitled to "lay claim" to whatever they like from time to time or to appoint themselves to murder random people for 30 years

Give it a rest and take this ****e up in the SF thread,

None of this has anything to do with FF/FG and the Silent Greens

blanch152 · 24-09-2020 01:22PM

Bowie wrote: »

Irish people laying claim to the occupied portion of the Irish province of Ulster on the island of Ireland is a secret?

Let's look at the post again.

Risteard81 wrote: »

The Six Occupied Counties are in IRELAND.

There is no such thing as "Ireland and Northern Ireland" and to suggest otherwise is seditious and treasonous.

There is no "laying claim", there is a statement which purports to be factual, when it is anything but. All I was doing was correcting the inaccurate facts presented by the poster.

Any flat earther can state that the world is flat, they can claim that the world is flat, but they are factually wrong.

Similarly, you or Risteard or any republican with a laptop can claim that there is no such thing as Ireland and Northern Ireland, but, like a flat earther, they are factually wrong, as has been explained many times.

If you want to put yourself in the same category as a flat earther, please go ahead. Pretending that somebody laid a claim when they were stating something as factual is just silliness in debating.

Truthvader · 24-09-2020 01:24PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Give it a rest and take this ****e up in the SF thread,

None of this has anything to do with FF/FG and the Silent Greens

Why is it being raised here then? Is there some kind of obligation to ignore misleading and mistaken statements being posted unless they appear in a thread devoted to the topic bring misrepresented?

blanch152 · 24-09-2020 01:53PM

Truthvader wrote: »

Why is it being raised here then? Is there some kind of obligation to ignore misleading and mistaken statements being posted unless they appear in a thread devoted to the topic bring misrepresented?

One of the biggest problems here is the casual throwing around of false narratives and claims and portraying them as facts.

I don't mind differing opinions, but when people try to twist facts or other people's words into other meanings, it should be rebutted.

dundalkfc10 · 24-09-2020 01:55PM

Truthvader wrote: »

Why is it being raised here then? Is there some kind of obligation to ignore misleading and mistaken statements being posted unless they appear in a thread devoted to the topic bring misrepresented?

No but it can be discussed on a relevant thread.

This is not a Sinn Fein thread, no matter how much you and your mates are obsessed with Sinn Fein.

This is about the current Govt, as can be seen by anyone viewing this, no matter what question is made about the Govt the defalt answer by many here is Sinn Fein.

We even had 1 poster claim SF and DUP were the issue to all the Covid problems on the island, picking various articles about rules been broke oin the 6 counties, and when asked about rule breaking here and what the Govt are doing, they say ah but Sinn Fein.

1 thing the Govt and authorites are doing up North is fines for rule breaking, students suspended from college, regular patrols in certain areas where rules are been broken (i.e Holylands and other student areas in Belfast)
What are the Govt and Gardai doing here, Investigating events that took place weeks ago, that will help the spread

It dosnt work like that anymore in the world, all the info is out there and FF and FG saying SF this Sinn Fein that, is part of the reason SF "won" the election (Leo's words) and FG had their worst election in decades.

Now back on topic, Any update on the Clifden enquiry by the Gardai.

dundalkfc10 · 24-09-2020 01:56PM

blanch152 wrote: »

One of the biggest problems here is the casual throwing around of false narratives and claims and portraying them as facts.

I don't mind differing opinions, but when people try to twist facts or other people's words into other meanings, it should be rebutted.

Things like ""The SF/DUP government is putting the whole island at risk. They can't seem to make any decisions. When they do, they are a week behind the rest of the island. Incompetent fools."

blanch152 · 24-09-2020 01:57PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

No but it can be discussed on a relevant thread.

This is not a Sinn Fein thread, no matter how much you and your mates are obsessed with Sinn Fein.

This is about the current Govt, as can be seen by anyone viewing this, no matter what question is made about the Govt the defalt answer by many here is Sinn Fein.

We even had 1 poster claim SF and DUP were the issue to all the Covid problems on the island, picking various articles about rules been broke oin the 6 counties, and when asked about rule breaking here and what the Govt are doing, they say ah but Sinn Fein.

1 thing the Govt and authorites are doing up North is fines for rule breaking, students suspended from college, regular patrols in certain areas where rules are been broken (i.e Holylands and other student areas in Belfast)
What are the Govt and Gardai doing here, Investigating events that took place weeks ago, that will help the spread

It dosnt work like that anymore in the world, all the info is out there and FF and FG saying SF this Sinn Fein that, is part of the reason SF "won" the election (Leo's words) and FG had their worst election in decades.

Now back on topic, Any update on Mickey Martin saying update on the Clifden enquiry by the Gardai.

Why then are you quoting Pearse Doherty in your fourth post on this thread?

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PearseDoherty/status/1272649547102240775?s=19

blanch152 · 24-09-2020 02:00PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Things like ""The SF/DUP government is putting the whole island at risk. They can't seem to make any decisions. When they do, they are a week behind the rest of the island. Incompetent fools."

Eh, look at the post again

"They can't seem to make any decisions", the central point of the post, is an opinion. The use of the word "seem" makes that clear.

If I had the time I could go through the last six months and point to several times where the SF/DUP government took decisions following on from the FG decisions a week later. That is factually accurate.

FrancieBrady · 24-09-2020 02:04PM

blanch152 wrote: »

One of the biggest problems here is the casual throwing around of false narratives and claims and portraying them as facts.

I don't mind differing opinions, but when people try to twist facts or other people's words into other meanings, it should be rebutted.

Coming from the guy who yet again told blatant lies about me here that is quite an un self aware post.

dundalkfc10 · 24-09-2020 02:10PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Eh, look at the post again

"They can't seem to make any decisions", the central point of the post, is an opinion. The use of the word "seem" makes that clear.

If I had the time I could go through the last six months and point to several times where the SF/DUP government took decisions following on from the FG decisions a week later. That is factually accurate.

I think you will find, many things were done in the 6 before they were done here, and many things were done here than in the 6 counties. Its how the world works dude. SF as you know wanted an All Island approach, The DUP didnt so SF's hands were tied on that one.
Not surprised Arlene didnt want a bit of it, after seening the Govt shindig in Clifden but thats another point.

But somethings struck me about you post, FG decisions?

Are FF and FG and the party you vote for not in a 3 way equal Government?

Are you happy that FG are running things, even though its meant to be equal partnership and you voted Green?

Nobotty · 24-09-2020 02:13PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Eh, look at the post again

"They can't seem to make any decisions", the central point of the post, is an opinion. The use of the word "seem" makes that clear.

If I had the time I could go through the last six months and point to several times where the SF/DUP government took decisions following on from the FG decisions a week later. That is factually accurate.

Surely thats a failure of coordination and not management
Dublin decisions cannot be Belfast decisions without London approval because London holds Belfast's purse strings
That means Belfast needs to be appraised ahead of time as to what Dublin is doing so it can jig the financial costs around a bit and clear things with London
Thats not always happening, we know that
Ironically the lack of the GB pub curfew in the North is following the south and probably will lead to bigger virus numbers up north than otherwise given its house visit ban
Dublin can actually be blamed for that

James Brown · 24-09-2020 06:00PM

blanch152 wrote: »

The Irish people have no claim on Northern Ireland.

We abandoned the claim when we amended Articles 2 and 3.

Truthvader wrote: »

No wrong again.

Outside of the mad mad world of Sinn Fein, democracies operate on the will/ vote of the people. Beneath that there are a complex web of laws, rules regulations etc. Stray Sinn Fein IRA members or dissidents or flat earthers are not entitled to "lay claim" to whatever they like from time to time or to appoint themselves to murder random people for 30 years

Like Kenny, Coveney and myself, some people want a united Ireland. Thats not a secret. People talking about the occupied territory being part of Ireland is no 'mask slip'.
'Mask slips' implies a hidden opinion or intent was accidentally revealed.

Brendan Bendar · 24-09-2020 06:07PM

Bowie wrote: »

Like Kenny, Coveney and myself, some people want a united Ireland. Thats not a secret. People talking about the occupied territory being part of Ireland is no 'mask slip'.
'Mask slips' implies a hidden opinion or intent was accidentally revealed.

No clue what that kind of stuff is all about.

Cannot make head nor tail about of that post

blanch152 · 24-09-2020 07:58PM

Bowie wrote: »

Like Kenny, Coveney and myself, some people want a united Ireland. Thats not a secret. People talking about the occupied territory being part of Ireland is no 'mask slip'.
'Mask slips' implies a hidden opinion or intent was accidentally revealed.

There is no occupied territory on this island, that is a fact.

FrancieBrady · 24-09-2020 08:26PM

blanch152 wrote: »

There is no occupied territory on this island, that is a fact.

You can view it as occupied if you wish.
The GFA only requires that the wishes of the majority are respected. They are.

Hawthorn Tree · 24-09-2020 08:31PM

Donegal is at Level 3 with a sprinkling of Level 5 for the wet pubs.

So Level 3.WP5?

James Brown · 24-09-2020 09:17PM

blanch152 wrote: »

There is no occupied territory on this island, that is a fact.

Because someone believes occupied Ulster is rightfully part of the island of Ireland, might not be the current political stance but its not a 'mask slips' type scenario bull shyte.

FF/FG/Green Next Government

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