COVID-19: Vaccine/antidote and testing procedures Megathread [Mod Warning - Post #1]

firemansam4 · 22-09-2020 11:33PM

Gradius wrote:

And if you have 10 people running concurrently in a race, it won't be 10 times quicker until they finish.

This is not the kind of reply you would get from someone who has truly worked and developed a vaccine.

I have found this thread to be informative and interesting reading so far.
It's sad that this thread has been brought down by this kind of garbage.

hmmm · 22-09-2020 11:33PM

Gradius, which of the vaccines currently in development do you think has the most chance of succeeding?

froog · 22-09-2020 11:34PM

Gradius wrote: »

Yeah I do.

And if you have 10 people running concurrently in a race, it won't be 10 times quicker until they finish.

Its 10 times faster than having them run one after another.

Gradius · 22-09-2020 11:35PM

firemansam4 wrote: »

This is not the kind of reply you would get from someone who has truly worked and developed a vaccine.

I have found this thread to be informative and interesting reading so far.
It's sad that this thread has been brought down by this kind of garbage.

Okay.

Le Bruise · 22-09-2020 11:40PM

Gradius wrote: »

I don't work with vaccines anymore. But why would me posting today, versus two years ago or ever mean anything anyway?

This thread didn’t exist two years ago, but howandever. I just thought, as a member of boards who has worked on vaccines, you might have shared your knowledge with us sooner in this pandemic.

ACitizenErased · 22-09-2020 11:41PM

We’ve a vaccine manufacturer in the thread now, what an honour for us.
It’s definitely not a lie!

Gradius · 22-09-2020 11:42PM

hmmm wrote: »

Gradius, which of the vaccines currently in development do you think has the most chance of succeeding?

Not a breeze, I'm afraid. I don't know anything about these vaccine attempts.

As funny as it might sound, I don't really care. I've come up against so many pricks in that sphere that I'm quite content to let them have it and go for the glory.

You quickly find out that the people putting in the hard work and talking sense are drowned out by politics, whether WHO, academia, CDC, whoever. Corruption, and that's why I left it all behind. You'd break your arse trying to do the right thing for years and you'd be lucky to get a "thanks".

So I have a fleeting interest in criticising their latest screw-ups

ACitizenErased · 22-09-2020 11:43PM

Gradius wrote: »

Not a breeze, I'm afraid. I don't know anything about these vaccine attempts.

As funny as it might sound, I don't really care. I've come up against so many pricks in that sphere that I'm quite content to let them have it and go for the glory.

You quickly find out that the people putting in the hard work and talking sense are drowned out by politics, whether WHO, academia, CDC, whoever. Corruption, and that's why I left it all behind. You'd break your arse trying to do the right thing for years and you'd be lucky to get a "thanks".

So I have a fleeting interest in criticising their latest screw-ups

You should write a book, truly thrilling stuff.
In the fiction section, me thinks.

Gradius · 22-09-2020 11:43PM

Le Bruise wrote: »

This thread didn’t exist two years ago, but howandever. I just thought, as a member of boards who has worked on vaccines, you might have shared your knowledge with us sooner in this pandemic.

As said just now, it's a fleeting interest. Something to occupy an hour of a boring Tuesday evening.

froog · 22-09-2020 11:52PM

Gradius wrote: »

As said just now, it's a fleeting interest. Something to occupy an hour of a boring Tuesday evening.

You used to design vaccines but it's just a fleeting interest for you now in the middle of a pandemic and the biggest vaccine development drive in the history of the world? You gave me a genuine laugh tonight mate, thank you.

Gradius · 22-09-2020 11:52PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You should write a book, truly thrilling stuff.
In the fiction section, me thinks.

Yeah I definitely should have wasted my time months back trying to impart a bit of knowledge, I mean, with such readily open minds such as yours willing to listen, I was a fool not to! :P

There are minds breaking because I stated vaccines take a long time to make safe. That's a looooooooow bar, and yet people can't even get over that.

Like that Simpsons episode where a scientist starts to explain "this is a square..." but is immediately interrupted by someone telling them to slow down

(And I know I'm rubbing it in too)

Gradius · 22-09-2020 11:53PM

froog wrote: »

You used to design vaccines but it's just a fleeting interest for you now in the middle of a pandemic and the biggest vaccine development drive in the history of the world? You gave me a genuine laugh tonight mate, thank you.

No bother

Gradius · 22-09-2020 11:58PM

froog wrote: »

Its 10 times faster than having them run one after another.

You're breaking my mind now

astrofool · 23-09-2020 12:01AM

Gradius wrote: »

Like that Simpsons episode where a scientist starts to explain "this is a square..." but is immediately interrupted by someone telling them to slow down

To be fair to everyone, it sounds like you've drawn a circle, and have been backtracking to cover it. There is some genuinely informed posters on this thread, but "believe me because I make complicated things" doesn't come across too well, especially when some of the basics are wrong (and sure, rocket scientists get their feet and centimetres mixed up too).

deathbomber · 23-09-2020 12:02AM

Russia have started giving vaccinations, also Putin was trying to promote the vaccine today at the summit, interesting....

...

Gradius · 23-09-2020 12:05AM

astrofool wrote: »

To be fair to everyone, it sounds like you've drawn a circle, and have been backtracking to cover it. There is some genuinely informed posters on this thread, but "believe me because I make complicated things" doesn't come across too well, especially when some of the basics are wrong (and sure, rocket scientists get their feet and centimetres mixed up too).

I don't know what basics you're on about.

But, what am I supposed to do? Lose my anonymity by posting books and papers?

All you're left with is "believe me or not". What can you do? It all started because someone told me to read up about how vaccines are made because I'm wrong. It eggs you into the most basic response!

kerry cow · 23-09-2020 12:08AM

question is are the smart guys on here willing to take the vaccine next year when it becomes available ??
come on , step up , step up .

me , no way , its too untested , but if ye all do , it stemps the virus for the rest of us , who know too wisely the risks of the side effect that may follow on later , its almost as dangerous as the virus itself .

rock and a hard place , so how many volunteers have we ?

Gradius · 23-09-2020 12:08AM

Micky 32 wrote: »

You’re a spoofer.

No, you're a spoofer. Unless you put your real name and identity on this public message board right this instant, you're a grade A spoofer.

See how that works?

Micky 32 · 23-09-2020 12:09AM

Gradius wrote: »

No, you're a spoofer. Unless you put your real name and identity on this public message board right this instant, you're a grade A spoofer.

See how that works?

No,that’s just some BS you just made up.

Gradius · 23-09-2020 12:12AM

kerry cow wrote: »

question is are the smart guys on here willing to take the vaccine next year when it becomes available ??
come on , step up , step up .

me , no way , its too untested , but if ye all do , it stemps the virus for the rest of us , who know too wisely the risks of the side effect that may follow on later , its almost as dangerous as the virus itself .

rock and a hard place , so how many volunteers have we ?

I don't think I will be anyway. Not a part of the anti-vaccination nutters, but it's just not a sensible decision for me personally. Will gladly look into it and judge it when one emerges though.

Gradius · 23-09-2020 12:12AM

Micky 32 wrote: »

No,that’s just some BS you just made up.

No, that's some bull**** you made up.

Post your identity for all to see or shut your mouth.

owlbethere · 23-09-2020 12:13AM

kerry cow wrote: »

question is are the smart guys on here willing to take the vaccine next year when it becomes available ??
come on , step up , step up .

me , no way , its too untested , but if ye all do , it stemps the virus for the rest of us , who know too wisely the risks of the side effect that may follow on later , its almost as dangerous as the virus itself .

rock and a hard place , so how many volunteers have we ?

I'd be first in line, for real although the government will probably roll it out to certain sections of the population first like vulnerable people and oaps so I probably won't fit into that bracket unfortunately.

Micky 32 · 23-09-2020 12:14AM

Gradius wrote: »

No, that's some bull**** you made up.

Post your identity for all to see or shut your mouth.

Lol, it’s very easy to tell someone to shut their mouth when behind a keyboard isn’t it?

MrMusician18 · 23-09-2020 12:14AM

kerry cow wrote: »

question is are the smart guys on here willing to take the vaccine next year when it becomes available ??
come on , step up , step up .

me , no way , its too untested , but if ye all do , it stemps the virus for the rest of us , who know too wisely the risks of the side effect that may follow on later , its almost as dangerous as the virus itself .

rock and a hard place , so how many volunteers have we ?

As a relatively young fit person, I'll be at the back of the queue when it comes to getting a vaccine. There will be loads of evidence regarding safety and efficacy by the time it gets around to me.

When my turn comes, I'll take it. No hesitation.

Gradius · 23-09-2020 12:16AM

owlbethere wrote: »

I'd be first in line, for real although the government will probably roll it out to certain sections of the population first like vulnerable people and oaps so I probably won't fit into that bracket unfortunately.

What's likely to happen is low turnout at first, 30%? I can definitely see a mandatory vaccination for travelling abroad in order to boost the numbers. Not so sure how smoothly that will go down though.

Gradius · 23-09-2020 12:16AM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Lol, it’s very easy to tell someone to shut their mouth when behind a keyboard isn’t it?

Yes.

Isn't it?

Micky 32 · 23-09-2020 12:22AM

Gradius wrote: »

Yes.

Isn't it?

Yes it is for certain type of posters like yourself,. I won’t get threadband by falling for your WUM type trolling . But carry on spoofing you’re doing a great job.

kerry cow · 23-09-2020 12:23AM

ignorantly I say , it maybe possible to have a vaccine that we could trust in , if it

was of some version of a , already vaccine or if the powers that know , were already many years ahead prepping for a scenario like this and have a lot of the ground work done already .

or the conspiracy that its man made and the man has the antidote already before unleashing this terror .
all in the name of world dominance .its been that way since day dot , someone wanting to control ultimate power ,

sure what would a hill farmer know ,

better keep counting my sheep

Gradius · 23-09-2020 12:24AM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Yes it is for certain type of posters like yourself,. I won’t get threadband by WUM type trolling . But carry on spoofing you’re doing a great job.

Look, I'm heading to bed in a minute. But let's pretend we're friends.

Put yourself in my position and just for giggles, you know that what I say is true.

Now, what would you do, as me, when someone says "you're a spoofer"? Would you seriously identify yourself just to satisfy some randomer?

Or is there another way to verify yourself perhaps?

Micky 32 · 23-09-2020 12:27AM

Gradius wrote: »

Look, I'm heading to bed in a minute. But let's pretend we're friends.

Put yourself in my position and just for giggles, you know that what I say is true.

Now, what would you do, as me, when someone says "you're a spoofer"? Would you seriously identify yourself just to satisfy some randomer?

Or is there another way to verify yourself perhaps?

I don’t want to know or care who or what your identity is to be honest. It’s late you should be in bed.

COVID-19: Vaccine/antidote and testing procedures Megathread [Mod Warning - Post #1]

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