Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

BoatMad · 21-09-2020 06:42PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Presumably the key fact is that many many cases were not detected.

Deaths are not detected. Hmmm maybe they snuck out of the hospitals to have a pint

igCorcaigh · 21-09-2020 06:42PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Immunocompetent not immunocompromised.

It is still not evidence that reinfection is going to be a very frequent event however. We would have loads of cases in Ireland alone if this was the case

But we don't know, do we, with invisible cases due to asymptomatics.

I would suspect very small though. Perhaps a reflection of some individuals rather than a general property of the virus?

I don't know.

Deeper Blue · 21-09-2020 06:44PM

There's been about half a dozen reinfection reports out of 30,000,000+ cases

I think it's fair to assume it's a rare occurrence

Thank god

21-09-2020 06:45PM

spookwoman wrote: »

No way of knowing if reinfection has happened here when our testing was very low and the criteria was very high as the start

About 25,000 people tested positive from March to July. About 23,000 recovered. About 6,500 got it since start of August. The odds of reinfection being prevalent and none of the earlier cases being exposed more recently are astronomically small. On a random basis it should be about 8 cases. However it’s not random as those exposed earlier are probably more likely to be reexposed on average

igCorcaigh · 21-09-2020 06:46PM

El Sueño wrote: »

There's been about half a dozen reinfection reports out of 30,000,000+ cases

I think it's fair to assume it's a rare occurrence

Thank god

I think for now, it's safe enough to assume it's rare. Fingers crossed.

Goldrickssan · 21-09-2020 06:46PM

El Sueño wrote: »

There's been about half a dozen reinfection reports out of 30,000,000+ cases

I think it's fair to assume it's a rare occurrence

Thank god

Some people are **** over reports of single reinfection as if it's proof covid can't be stopped.

Bizarre to see it

lukas8888 · 21-09-2020 06:46PM

The daily 14 day epidemiology report was last published on Saturday,first time it's gone 2 days with no update.Very important to track the county incidence.

mloc123 · 21-09-2020 06:47PM

I see Luke O’Neill has sold his company off today... after building up his celebrity profile over the last 6 months jumping on every bandwagon

Every single one of these Covid talking heads are only interested in one thing, how can I gain from this... Gerry Killeen, Maitiu o Tuathail, Sam McConkey etc.. and yet they are all wheeled out on TV as neutral experts.

BoatMad · 21-09-2020 06:50PM

mloc123 wrote: »

I see Luke O’Neill has sold his company off today... after building up his celebrity profile over the last 6 months jumping on every bandwagon

Every single one of these Covid talking heads are only interested in one thing, how can I gain from this... Gerry Killeen, Maitiu o Tuathail, Sam McConkey etc.. and yet they are all wheeled out on TV as neutral experts.

He’s milked this to death , fear mongering at its worst

PCeeeee · 21-09-2020 06:52PM

mloc123 wrote: »

I see Luke O’Neill has sold his company off today... after building up his celebrity profile over the last 6 months jumping on every bandwagon

Every single one of these Covid talking heads are only interested in one thing, how can I gain from this... Gerry Killeen, Maitiu o Tuathail, Sam McConkey etc.. and yet they are all wheeled out on TV as neutral experts.

It was Roche that purchased his company. I sincerely doubt Roche were influenced by his 'celebrity profile'

spookwoman · 21-09-2020 06:53PM

Deleted User wrote: »

About 25,000 people tested positive from March to July. About 23,000 recovered. About 6,500 got it since start of August. The odds of reinfection being prevalent and none of the earlier cases being exposed more recently are astronomically small. On a random basis should be about 8 cases. However it’s not random as those exposed earlier are probably more likely to be reexposed on average

There is still no number to say how many could be reinfected and no way to know how people previously infected are going about their lives. We don't know.

KrustyUCC · 21-09-2020 06:54PM

lukas8888 wrote: »

The daily 14 day epidemiology report was last published on Saturday,first time it's gone 2 days with no update.Very important to track the county incidence.

Latest figures from Gavan Reilly

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1308085352385609728

ACitizenErased · 21-09-2020 06:55PM

lukas8888 wrote: »

The daily 14 day epidemiology report was last published on Saturday,first time it's gone 2 days with no update.Very important to track the county incidence.

It's never published on the weekend, it'll be out tomorrow for today

mloc123 · 21-09-2020 06:56PM

PCeeeee wrote: »

It was Roche that purchased his company. I sincerely doubt Roche were influenced by his 'celebrity profile'

You don't think that his constant media presence for the last 6 months has raised his, and the companies profile at all?

caveat emptor · 21-09-2020 06:56PM

Good article in nature summing up what we know and don’t know yet about reinfection.

It’s rare now but will be in a year’s time.
Will it be more severe or milder?

https://twitter.com/nature/status/1306409287649026048?s=21

But if symptoms are consistently worse during a second bout of COVID-19, as they were in the person in Nevada, the immune system might be making things worse, says immunologist Gabrielle Belz at the University of Queensland and the Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research in Victoria, Australia. For example, some cases of severe COVID-19 are worsened by rogue immune responses that damage healthy tissue. People who have experienced this during a first infection might have immune cells that are primed to respond in a disproportionate way again the second time, says Belz.

Another possibility is that antibodies produced in response to SARS-CoV-2 help, rather than fight, the virus during a second infection. This phenomenon, called antibody-dependent enhancement, is rare — but researchers found worrying signs of it while trying to develop vaccines against related coronaviruses, responsible for severe acute respiratory syndrome and Middle East respiratory syndrome.

As researchers accumulate more examples of reinfection, they should be able to sort out these possibilities, says virologist Yong Poovorawan at Chulalongkorn University in Bangkok.

ACitizenErased · 21-09-2020 06:57PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Good article in nature summing up what we know and don’t know yet about reinfection.

It’s rare now but will be in a year’s time.
Will it be more severe or milder?

https://twitter.com/nature/status/1306409287649026048?s=21

You are infatuated at the thought of re-infection, I've never seen such an obsession

BoatMad · 21-09-2020 06:58PM

spookwoman wrote: »

There is still no number to say how many could be reinfected and no way to know how people previously infected are going about their lives. We don't know.

If you don’t know , then you react as if it’s not occurring

When u hear hooves think horses not zebras

Equally , we don’t know when the zombie apocalypse is coming but sanity suggests we don’t lock ourselves indoors in antipication just yet , mind you if NPHET has a chance ......

HeyV · 21-09-2020 06:59PM

So strange this evening walking home after work and seeing all the pub doors open along the Main Street...
what happens to the pubs that have been open a few weeks now serving pizza etc from local restaurants? Are they ok to now stop the food?
Sorry if it’s been answered before, I don’t get time to log on here everyday to read all the posts

DebDynamite · 21-09-2020 06:59PM

mloc123 wrote: »

I see Luke O’Neill has sold his company off today... after building up his celebrity profile over the last 6 months jumping on every bandwagon

Every single one of these Covid talking heads are only interested in one thing, how can I gain from this... Gerry Killeen, Maitiu o Tuathail, Sam McConkey etc.. and yet they are all wheeled out on TV as neutral experts.

Maitiu O Tuathail anyway. He’s not even an expert in the field - he’s just a GP. Though he seems to be fond of a bit of self-promotion, so it’s no surprise he’s trying to get his name out there.

lawred2 · 21-09-2020 06:59PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It's always the way. RTÉ are very enthusiastic about telling us how great it is that something has opening and the interview goes something like...

"So is it great for you to be back to normality at long last? The whole community must be gathering to celebrate!"

And then a couple of weeks later everything changes and they wheel out the prophets of doom to tell us the closure could be seen coming from the outset.

just can't stand the centre of the universe schtick that accompanies the Irish pub

ffs visiting the pubs for these types of chats is for Henry Kean on Moncrief

ACitizenErased · 21-09-2020 06:59PM

HeyV wrote: »

So strange this evening walking home after work and seeing all the pub doors open along the Main Street...
what happens to the pubs that have been open a few weeks now serving pizza etc from local restaurants? Are they ok to now stop the food?
Sorry if it’s been answered before, I don’t get time to log on here everyday to read all the posts

Yep, there is no longer a requirement to serve food

Deeper Blue · 21-09-2020 07:00PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Good article in nature summing up what we know and don’t know yet about reinfection.

It’s rare now but will be in a year’s time.
Will it be more severe or milder?

https://twitter.com/nature/status/1306409287649026048?s=21

What we know is that there have been less than half a dozen reinfection reports out of 30,000,000+ cases.

I don't see the point in speculating about what might happen in a year.

mloc123 · 21-09-2020 07:00PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Maitiu O Tuathail anyway. He’s not even an expert in the field - he’s just a GP. Though he seems to be fond of a bit of self-promotion, so it’s no surprise he’s trying to get his name out there.

I think I dislike him the most... a GP, go back to handing out antibiotics

mr_edge_to_you · 21-09-2020 07:00PM

mloc123 wrote: »

I see Luke O’Neill has sold his company off today... after building up his celebrity profile over the last 6 months jumping on every bandwagon

Every single one of these Covid talking heads are only interested in one thing, how can I gain from this... Gerry Killeen, Maitiu o Tuathail, Sam McConkey etc.. and yet they are all wheeled out on TV as neutral experts.

Fair play to him. He's a talented man! By the time its all divied up he's probably looking at a decent lump sum.

Roche paid what they did because they feel that is potential to generate multiples of what they paid from the work that Inflamazone have already done.

Seems like a good guy and I wish him well.

Non solum non ambulabit · 21-09-2020 07:00PM

Humberto Salazar wrote: »

188, downward trend starting.

Exponentially decreasing

BoatMad · 21-09-2020 07:01PM

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

Fair play to him. He's a talented man! By the time its all divied up he's probably looking at a decent lump sum.

Roche paid what they did because they feel that is potential to generate multiples of what they paid from the work that Inflamazone have already done.

Seems like a good guy and I wish him well.

Great guy. Just never let him inside a radio station

caveat emptor · 21-09-2020 07:01PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You are infatuated at the thought of re-infection, I've never seen such an obsession

Yeah it’s not as if it has implications for every single country and economy in the world. Probably the most important question in science for the last 50 years.

Don’t worry anecdotally it can’t happen.

ACitizenErased · 21-09-2020 07:02PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Yeah it’s not as if it has implications for every single country and economy in the world. Probably the most important question in science for the last 50 years.

Don’t worry anecdotally it can’t happen.

Do you honestly think that less than a dozen cases out of 30+ million is concerning, you sound like a mad man posting tweets about it constantly

PCeeeee · 21-09-2020 07:03PM

mloc123 wrote: »

You don't think that his constant media presence for the last 6 months has raised his, and the companies profile at all?

I do.

I doubt that the largest pharmaceutical company in the world was in anyway swayed by that however. They are buying something they think can make money for them. The due diligence performed for a 380M purchase would absolutely not include his profile. Thats not the way it works. IMO.

BoatMad · 21-09-2020 07:03PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You are infatuated at the thought of re-infection, I've never seen such an obsession

Perhaps because a lot of people are going to get annoyed when we see most of these “ restrictions “ are ineffectual and half baked, they “ want “ outbreaks so they can say “ see told u so “

Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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