Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

normanoffside · 21-09-2020 02:17PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

"Jerick Martin, a healthcare worker who spent 68 days in ICU with #COVID19 " will be a speaker.

Because when you've lost the population by your strategy, only fear remains!

Thankfully this has been cancelled along with the whole briefing

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1308034031876009984

ACitizenErased · 21-09-2020 02:18PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Thankfully this has been cancelled along with the whole briefing

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1308034031876009984

Amateur enough cancelling it 27 minutes later. The Department of Health's PR team is a joke.

drunkmonkey · 21-09-2020 02:19PM

fits wrote: »

You worry about your kids I'll worry about mine. He's worn it once - in a shop. Nothing inappropriate or dangerous about it.

We've all to worry about each other, remember. It's not about saving my life it's about saving yours.

podgeandrodge · 21-09-2020 02:19PM

Hurrache wrote: »

There's enough people on this forum alone who claim it's nothing to worry about until you're either old or have an underlying illness, they need a good slap about the face of the reality.

That's probably because patients in intensive care tend to be older and with underlying conditions.

DangerScouse · 21-09-2020 02:20PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

You can't close a border that doesn't exist. The manpower is not there to block all the roads either.

We have hundreds of thousands out of work. Of course the man power is there.

Plumbthedepths · 21-09-2020 02:23PM

DangerScouse wrote: »

We have hundreds of thousands out of work. Of course the man power is there.

Ha ha ha.

hetuzozaho · 21-09-2020 02:23PM

seamus wrote: »

I'm not sure going on a county-by-county basis in terms of hospitals numbers is helpful.

It is if you want to paint Dublin as bold and everywhere else as good

ixoy · 21-09-2020 02:24PM

seamus wrote: »

I'm not sure going on a county-by-county basis in terms of hospitals numbers is helpful.

It is when there's a bit of smug Dublin bashing going on...

Necro · 21-09-2020 02:24PM

drunkmonkey wrote:

I wouldn't allow it under any circumstances. I'm a few years off mine making it to secondary school so hopefully this is all anchient history by then. There a dangerous item and lead to increased infection and transmission not just of Covid, if not used correctly. All that bacteria isn't good to have them rebreathing.

Absolute and utter nonsense.

fits · 21-09-2020 02:26PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

That's probably because patients in intensive care tend to be older and with underlying conditions.

Do you have any sense of what it must be like for people who have or had loved ones in ICU to read that?

21-09-2020 02:27PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Ha ha ha.

Could you imagine 20,000 taken off pup to seal off the border. :pac::pac:

Martina1991 · 21-09-2020 02:28PM

Woody79 wrote:

The better we test trace isolate the better control we have. Look at germany and south korea. Efficient testing is one of the most important tools we have. I disagree with your post.

Of course its an important tool. But it is not the solution.

If cases were like fires popping up all over the place, tests are like smoke alarms. They'll tell you where the fire is but it won't put it out.

Reduce your contacts, wash your hands, wear a mask, put out the fire.

DangerScouse · 21-09-2020 02:30PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Ha ha ha.

There is those that see a problem and give in and there are those who see a solution to that same problem. I think it's fair to assume we all know which side you are on.

Plumbthedepths · 21-09-2020 02:31PM

fits wrote: »

Do you have any sense of what it must be like for people who have or had loved ones in ICU to read that?

So nothing should be said incase it causes upset even when it's largely true?

drunkmonkey · 21-09-2020 02:31PM

Necro wrote: »

Absolute and utter nonsense.

It's not, look at any science or health advice, Secondary transmission is a thing, if your going to call it nonsense back up your assumption.

Fr_Dougal · 21-09-2020 02:33PM

Any beers?

drunkmonkey · 21-09-2020 02:35PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'm after hearing from 2 HSE workers, and I assume it's included in yesterday's figures of 36 yes. Would make sense, large increases are usually attributed to clusters.
Also lines up with the school cases. Any workers there would have kids in that area, and the schools would report those cases.

Is there a pattern starting to appear, look at Corks high cases and Dublins, it's not closed pubs there all centered around.
We changed the advice on what types of stores could open, it was first meant to be only ones with kerb side access, i.e they could let in fresh air.

kingshankly · 21-09-2020 02:36PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Any beers?

Well pubs are open

Necro · 21-09-2020 02:36PM

drunkmonkey wrote:

It's not, look at any science or health advice, Secondary transmission is a thing, if your going to call it nonsense back up your assumption.

I'm calling it nonsense because it is nonsense. You're making the claim that masks are unsafe, where's your evidence?

You're basically saying the health experts are trying to infect us with Covid by wearing masks.

Conspiracy Theory Forum

>

Get outta town with that nonsense!

Plumbthedepths · 21-09-2020 02:36PM

DangerScouse wrote: »

There is those that see a problem and give in and there are those who see a solution to that same problem. I think it's fair to assume we all know which side you are on.

Thats not a solution , it's idiocy. There is also a matter of an international treaty that we as a nation signed up to.
As for sides ,more BS .

fits · 21-09-2020 02:38PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

So nothing should be said incase it causes upset even when it's largely true?

It implies that they don't matter.

They do.

And people of all ages end up in there.

ACitizenErased · 21-09-2020 02:39PM

Bit of a balls not having the early case numbers

JP Liz V1 · 21-09-2020 02:39PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I've an underlying illness and am very calm about the whole situation, to be honest

Are you an overly positive person ACE?

I've anxious days

screamer · 21-09-2020 02:39PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

And no clusters in shops prior to masks being mandatory

That is only one variable. Perhaps no one covid +ve in the store in the time masks weren’t mandatory. Perhaps caught in the canteen where presumably masks are removed to eat and drink, but sure yes, of course mask wearing is the only possible explanation...... ffs

ACitizenErased · 21-09-2020 02:40PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Are you an overly positive person ACE?

I've anxious days

Nope, regularly worry about things. Always stressed when it comes to college. Was anxious about COVID at the beginning, but my father’s a healthcare worker and generally positive about things. There’s a lot of healthcare workers who believe COVID was here long before March.

Gadgetman496 · 21-09-2020 02:41PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Bit of a balls not having the early case numbers

Well, we know now that the figures are available around lunchtime each day, so why do they wait until 5, 6 or even 7 sometimes to release them?

iamwhoiam · 21-09-2020 02:41PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I never said anything about where they're coming from or who they are. It's a fact that Dublin's hospitals are seeing bigger increases per capita and in actual numbers compared to the rest of the country.

Dublin hospitals have more capacity so naturally the numbers in them will be up
Are you counting Leinster population to calculate per capita so ?

21-09-2020 02:43PM

Our best estimate of infection-fatality ratio at present is that it ranges from around 0.1% in those aged 20-30 to 7-8% in those aged 85 and older. If we fail to protect the elderly, we may expect 4-6% mortality in those cases aged 65 years

Plumbthedepths · 21-09-2020 02:44PM

fits wrote: »

It implies that they don't matter.

They do.

And people of all ages end up in there.

It only implies what you want it to imply . The majority who end up in ICU due to Covid are mainly elderly or those with an underlying condition or both. Emotive language doesn't change that.

igCorcaigh · 21-09-2020 02:45PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Our best estimate of infection-fatality ratio at present is that it ranges from around 0.1% in those aged 20-30 to 7-8% in those aged 85 and older. If we fail to protect the elderly, we may expect 4-6% mortality in those cases aged 65 years

Terribly bad odds for the elderly

Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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