Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - Read OP for Mod Warnings

kippy · 20-09-2020 09:29PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

....after the two weeks what then?

The disease is dead in the country.
After that, quarantine everyone coming into the country for two weeks until such a time as a vaccine is found or outcome for vaccine search is known.

Again, it's a short term solution to what can be a short term problem.

Of course what we are in now is a very very slow burn of the disease running through the community with the ultimate aim of not overwhelming either the health sector or the economy.

Penfailed · 20-09-2020 09:38PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

The mental effects of the hysteria vomited out by the Irish media will be irreversible for generations.

Irreversible for generations?! Bit hysterical.

20-09-2020 09:40PM

Kildare are proof that lockdown is not working. They were part of the national lockdown and restrictions obviously. Then they had a 2nd lockdown for a month.

Guess what??? They still have cases every day.

But it’s clear we are going to carry on with this failed strategy.

So at this point, we’ll keep going in circles until there is a vaccine or we run out of resources.

walus · 20-09-2020 09:40PM

Unlike my Swedish counterpart I don’t know what the next 3 months are going to look like:
- Will the government shut down schools and I will have homeschool my three kids at home?
- Will the government help me do that by closing down my work?
- Will the teacher be as unhelpful as the first time?
- Will the business be there when we come back to it and what do we tell the customers until then?
- Will the country I want to travel for Christmas to finally see my family after 18 months be allowed?
- Will my family become mentally affected by all this?
- and many many more little things that matter more and sometimes less...

Lots of things to consider.

DangerScouse · 20-09-2020 09:44PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Ill probably be out of work next month and worry about being able to give my family the upbringing I want that I didn't have.

Chin up pal, there will always be more jobs.

walus · 20-09-2020 09:46PM

kippy wrote: »

The disease is dead in the country.
After that, quarantine everyone coming into the country for two weeks until such a time as a vaccine is found or outcome for vaccine search is known.

Again, it's a short term solution to what can be a short term problem.

Of course what we are in now is a very very slow burn of the disease running through the community with the ultimate aim of not overwhelming either the health sector or the economy.

In theory it is like you describe. In practice it is impossible to achieve.

Hego Damask · 20-09-2020 09:56PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

So you how spoken to people who are idiot anti-vaxers it would appear.

A vaccine is no good unless the vast majority of people get the vaccine.

No, only if the vast majority of the population are vaccinated. Anyone who thinks only the vulnerable need to be vaccinated do not understand how vaccines work or they are anti-vax to some degree.

So we can expect these restrictions untill 2024/25 so .... jesus ...!!!

kippy · 20-09-2020 09:56PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Kildare are proof that lockdown is not working. They were part of the national lockdown and restrictions obviously. Then they had a 2nd lockdown for a month.

Guess what??? They still have cases every day.

But it’s clear we are going to carry on with this failed strategy.

So at this point, we’ll keep going in circles until there is a vaccine or we run out of resources.

What strategy would you suggest at this point?
Bearing in mind that while we have been speaking of 'lockdown' we are just speaking about various restrictions.

Lundstram · 20-09-2020 10:05PM

The main Covid19 thread is beyond ridiculous. Posters predicting a Lombardy, Italy style disaster coming this winter. Not a peep about the zero deaths, seems to be an afterthought now. Not relevant.

Schools are back in full swing, vast majority of the country back to work after tomorrow, sporting events getting supporters back. Of course we're going to have more cases FFS.

Take personal responsibilty for yourself, use your brain. If you're scared, stay at home but don't try to destroy our economy by crying lockdown once cases go over 300 for a day.

Deal with it.

20-09-2020 10:07PM

walus wrote: »

I must say I envy Swedes a little bit. Not because they have applied the right strategy to deal with covid but mainly because they know what their short term future and day-to-day lives are going to look like. They can plan family gatherings, Christmas and so on. It seems that they will be out of the woods shortly and their economy will recover next year. In grand scheme of things a great outcome.

Edit: I actually envy them a lot.

It is really nice knowing what is to come, life pretty much is like normal in Stockholm. People don't even talk about Corona anymore. Bit longer distance between people in the queue, not a lot of tourists and less people on the subway but that's about it (I don't go to matches or nightclubs anyway). It is surreal seeing what is going on in Ireland and how people just get their short to mid term future smashed into pieces and are okay with that. Really sad actually, it's like the whole country is depressed.

Only thing that worries me is that the doom merchants will win and I won't be able to fly back for Christmas (I'd hoped for a testing strategy at the airport by then to let all the Irish living abroad the possibility to return to see family). Plan B is to get my family to come to Stockholm instead, but they're keen on following the recommendations to not travel so not sure I can convince them.

20-09-2020 10:16PM

kippy wrote: »

What strategy would you suggest at this point?
Bearing in mind that while we have been speaking of 'lockdown' we are just speaking about various restrictions.

Keep living.

Appreciate the fact that 99.99% of people will be fine?

normanoffside · 20-09-2020 10:20PM

There's a different world only up the road....first time I've ever thought it would be nice to live in Northern ireland

https://twitter.com/thomasniblock/status/1307756262331944966

kippy · 20-09-2020 10:23PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Keep living.

Appreciate the fact that 99.99% of people will be fine?

Well that's just groundbreaking stuff.

20-09-2020 10:27PM

kippy wrote: »

Well that's just groundbreaking stuff.

I prefer to look at the bigger picture instead of getting sucked into the hysteria.

All the stats show it is a mild illness and almost harmless if you are under 65 and not in extremely poor health.

kippy · 20-09-2020 10:30PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I prefer to look at the bigger picture instead of getting sucked into the hysteria.

All the stats show it is a mild illness and almost harmless if you are under 65 and not in extremely poor health.

The stats show that because of the various restrictions and changes in human behaviour that have been implemented at various levels globally.
Would you be telling those groups to 'keep living'?

20-09-2020 10:36PM

kippy wrote: »

The stats show that because of the various restrictions and changes in human behaviour that have been implemented at various levels globally.
Would you be telling those groups to 'keep living'?

Why did bodies not pile up on the streets in Sweden?

Everyone should keep living. The majority of nursing home cases survived.

normanoffside · 20-09-2020 10:37PM

normanoffside wrote: »

There's a different world only up the road....first time I've ever thought it would be nice to live in Northern ireland

https://twitter.com/thomasniblock/status/1307756262331944966

There's not a single comment on that tweet about lack of social distancing, lack of mask wearing, big crowds etc.....
Complete difference to here. I think we are being silly here.

Plumbthedepths · 20-09-2020 10:40PM

kippy wrote: »

The disease is dead in the country.
After that, quarantine everyone coming into the country for two weeks until such a time as a vaccine is found or outcome for vaccine search is known.

Again, it's a short term solution to what can be a short term problem.

Of course what we are in now is a very very slow burn of the disease running through the community with the ultimate aim of not overwhelming either the health sector or the economy.

Small matter of another jurisdiction north of Dundalk. No border.

kippy · 20-09-2020 10:46PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Small matter of another jurisdiction north of Dundalk. No border.

Doesn't really matter tbh.

FintanMcluskey · 20-09-2020 11:00PM

kippy wrote: »

Doesn't really matter tbh.

Interesting lack of understanding here

FintanMcluskey · 20-09-2020 11:01PM

normanoffside wrote: »

There's not a single comment on that tweet about lack of social distancing, lack of mask wearing, big crowds etc.....
Complete difference to here. I think we are being silly here.

Look at the normality and jubilation

Plumbthedepths · 20-09-2020 11:02PM

kippy wrote: »

Doesn't really matter tbh.

Ok time to ignore you, the above demonstrates a staggering ignorance. Have a good one.

normanoffside · 20-09-2020 11:06PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Look at the normality and jubilation

Disgrace?

FintanMcluskey · 20-09-2020 11:11PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Disgrace?

Nah good penalty in fairness, keeper went the right way.

end of the road · 21-09-2020 12:10AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Why did bodies not pile up on the streets in Sweden?

because they had restrictions.

Plumbthedepths · 21-09-2020 12:31AM

end of the road wrote: »

because they had restrictions.

So you will have no problems listing them off you go .

storker · 21-09-2020 12:36AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

So you will have no problems listing them off you go .

https://www.krisinformation.se/en/hazards-and-risks/disasters-and-incidents/2020/official-information-on-the-new-coronavirus/visiting-sweden-during-the-covid-19-pandemic

CalamariFritti · 21-09-2020 01:03AM

storker wrote: »

https://www.krisinformation.se/en/hazards-and-risks/disasters-and-incidents/2020/official-information-on-the-new-coronavirus/visiting-sweden-during-the-covid-19-pandemic

Wash your hands, try to do 1m in a bar, avoid crowded situations and no public gatherings over 50 people. Technically this is a list of restrictions.

Its still remarkable considering thats all they ever did. And they're now doing better than we do. And they're not in semi permanent lockdown threat limbo and half the population freaked out of their wits by nonstop media covid scare bombardments.

Plumbthedepths · 21-09-2020 01:07AM

storker wrote: »

https://www.krisinformation.se/en/hazards-and-risks/disasters-and-incidents/2020/official-information-on-the-new-coronavirus/visiting-sweden-during-the-covid-19-pandemic

So personal responsibility, with a few suggestions. Grand so. F**ked if I know how we have managed to work throughout in my employment oh wait we used cop on aswell.

21-09-2020 01:11AM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Wash your hands, try to do 1m in a bar, avoid crowded situations and no public gatherings over 50 people. Technically this is a list of restrictions.

Its still remarkable considering thats all they ever did. And they're now doing better than we do. And they're not in semi permanent lockdown threat limbo and half the population freaked out of their wits by nonstop media covid scare bombardments.

Imagine how few deaths they could have had if they implemented restrictions like the rest of the civilised world.

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - Read OP for Mod Warnings